Question for drivers

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-20 01:13am

Darth Wong wrote:If you worry about having to fight a street battle and equip yourself for that purpose every time you get in your car, you're definitely living in Michael Moore's "culture of fear".

Or you're living in a high crime area where this happens hourly, not some alleged paranoid delusion from an alleged filmmaker.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-20 01:56am

BoredShirtless wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:one of the incidents involved me getting shot at.
Jesus. How did that happen?

Well with me it was riding in a LAFD vehicle in 1992....

Or finding out your high school friend who was giving you a lift happened to knock up the 15 year old sister of a very bad Gang member.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-20 02:12am

Lord Poe wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:If you worry about having to fight a street battle and equip yourself for that purpose every time you get in your car, you're definitely living in Michael Moore's "culture of fear".
Or you're living in a high crime area where this happens hourly, not some alleged paranoid delusion from an alleged filmmaker.

Speaking of paranoid delusions ...

Let's compare your claim to reality, shall we? The AAA commissioned the Mizell report, which estimated that 10,037 crashes were caused by violent aggressive driving (aka "road rage") across the entire USA between January 1, 1990 and August 31, 1996 (that's a 6.5 year long period).

Divide 10,037 by 6.5, and we get around 1.5k incidents per year. Assume that LA has 1% of the road rage incidents in all of America, and that's 15 incidents per year in LA. And I'm not even accounting for the fact that crashes from road rage vastly outnumber street fights from road rage. So no, these kinds of incidents do not occur on an hourly basis in your neighbourhood. They do not even occur on an hourly basis in the entire USA.

Sorry, but that "culture of fear" idea is looking more valid all the time.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-20 04:14am

Darth Wong wrote:
Speaking of paranoid delusions ...

Let's compare your claim to reality, shall we? The AAA commissioned the Mizell report, which estimated that 10,037 crashes were caused by violent aggressive driving (aka "road rage") across the entire USA between January 1, 1990 and August 31, 1996 (that's a 6.5 year long period).

We weren't JUST talking about "Road Rage" in this thread, Mike.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/cus96.pr

http://www.crimedoctor.com/carjacking.htm

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-09-20 06:04am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:one of the incidents involved me getting shot at.
Jesus. How did that happen?
Well with me it was riding in a LAFD vehicle in 1992....

Or finding out your high school friend who was giving you a lift happened to knock up the 15 year old sister of a very bad Gang member.

Now that is just plain messed up beyond all belief. Just how old is/was this HS friend of yours? (soon to be ex-friend by the sound of it)

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-09-20 11:50am

The Yosemite Bear wrote: Well with me it was riding in a LAFD vehicle in 1992....

Or finding out your high school friend who was giving you a lift happened to knock up the 15 year old sister of a very bad Gang member.

Christ! Where do you live?

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-09-20 12:37pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:If you worry about having to fight a street battle and equip yourself for that purpose every time you get in your car, you're definitely living in Michael Moore's "culture of fear".
So keeping a means of self defense on your person is a 'culture of fear'? I call it being prudent...
Of course you do

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-20 12:41pm

EmperorMing wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote: Jesus. How did that happen?
Well with me it was riding in a LAFD vehicle in 1992....

Or finding out your high school friend who was giving you a lift happened to knock up the 15 year old sister of a very bad Gang member.
Now that is just plain messed up beyond all belief. Just how old is/was this HS friend of yours? (soon to be ex-friend by the sound of it)

At the time 22, I haven't spoke to him since....

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-20 12:49pm

At the time of the first incident it was April of 1992 and I was working for the state government. I got stuck in the middle of the LA riots.

The second incident was me comming home from the State Government Job and despratly needing a lift. Which is the last tiem I spoke with "Tony F." Of course this was the first time I had seen Tony since high school, and well he was part of the AV circle in High School.