Lucas: LIAR!!!

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-09-24 12:32pm

i will laugh my ass off when he changes his mind again and makes three new movies and the first one released completely contradicts Heir to the Empire. Pandamonium!

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-24 02:21pm

Vympel wrote:Well, whatever his plans were, it's over now. Who wants to see a geriatric Harrison Ford, an ageing Mark Hammil, a saggy-tits Carrie Fischer in another three episodes? Ugh. Not I.

I've seen a fan-made draft for Episodes 7-9 and it is set after NJO. (Which means that we'll probably see more of Ben Skywalker and the Solo Twins than their parents)

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-24 03:58pm

Stravo wrote:Hamill MIGHT say yes as he needs money I'm sure and I think he's come to terms with the fact that he IS Luke Skywalker for a whole generation

Carrie Fisher would BEG to do it I think.

Hamill and Fisher were in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"

What do YOU think?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-09-24 04:57pm

Hey in one of the other realities starwars is available in a ten disk boxed set, all nine original episodes plus "Revenge of the Jedi" the alternate version of Episode 6. unfortunatly the RIAA and zone mapping means that my sony playstation two won't play DVD's from other realities.....

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-09-24 04:58pm

Carrie's actually done pretty well for herself. She's a best-selling novelist, in addition to being one of the top-paid movie performers ever. Surprisingly, she's not that desperate for work, although she seems to pick up some of the most bizarre movies.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-09-24 05:33pm

Lucas lies all the time, its nothing new. He lies when he says Darth Vader was always Luke's father, he never planned to make 9 films and that he set out to make a modern myth. I think its just the sheer amount of interviews that he does, its hard for him to change his mind and then remember what he had said 25 years earlier.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-09-24 05:38pm

zombie84 wrote:I think its just the sheer amount of interviews that he does, its hard for him to change his mind and then remember what he had said 25 years earlier.

Quite. He's a busy man what with EpIII in the works and all, I hardly expect him to go through his old interviews he had years before so he can have the "proper" response when he gets asked the question later.

Not to mention sometimes people genuinely change their minds.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-25 02:33am

zombie84 wrote: He lies when he says Darth Vader was always Luke's father, he never planned to make 9 films and that he set out to make a modern myth.

Wasn't there an early version of the script where Boba Fett was Luke's father?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-09-25 02:38am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
zombie84 wrote: He lies when he says Darth Vader was always Luke's father, he never planned to make 9 films and that he set out to make a modern myth.
Wasn't there an early version of the script where Boba Fett was Luke's father?

Hell no.

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-09-25 09:04am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:"Never intended" is different than changing one's mind. Lucas is outright lying.

Or just smoking too much...

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-25 09:43am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
zombie84 wrote: He lies when he says Darth Vader was always Luke's father, he never planned to make 9 films and that he set out to make a modern myth.
Wasn't there an early version of the script where Boba Fett was Luke's father?
Hell no.

One thing I do know is that in the original SW script from 1973, Tarkin was a good guy and Vader was not the major villain but just one of many Imperial bigwigs. Also, the Jedi were not called knights - they were merely called the Jedi Bendu.

However, it would be really interesting to find out what the Star Wars saga would have turned out like if Luke's father was not Darth Vader but Boba Fett...

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2003-09-25 10:55am

Even with his earlier statements, he may never have seriously intended to make 9 films. There is a dfifference between wishful thinking and really seriously starting such a project.

Given th fact that he took a decade to start making the prequels, he probably never seriuously entertained the idea of making the last three.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-09-25 04:50pm

double post

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-09-25 04:59pm

no, i think its fairly obvious that from 1978 to 1982 or so that he intended to make 9. After the remaining third trilogy was condensed into Return of the Jedi he sometimes pondered aloud about whether or not to make the third set of films but he always had doubts because he didnt have much of a story beyond a vague outline in his head. Its no matter; Star Wars ended when Vader killed the Emperor--everything has closure and to even attempt a continuation would seem contrived and unnecessary. The only thing i can see that would work would be a prequel-prequel, detailing the Jedi-Sith wars. That would be cool to see.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-09-25 09:05pm

Lucas seems to just take every possible opportunity to make it seem like he had the entire story laid out before-hand, and that what we saw is exactly what he planned all those years ago. I've seen several interviews where he talks about the first draft of Star Wars that he wrote, and how it contained the plots for the entire trilogy but was too complicated to make into a movie so he decided to cut it up into three pieces instead. I've read that first draft (find it here) and it had almost nothing in common, plot-wise, with anything we actually saw on-screen (although a couple of ideas and scenes from that draft did make it into the completed movies.)

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-09-26 04:03am

Vympel wrote:Well, whatever his plans were, it's over now. Who wants to see a geriatric Harrison Ford, an ageing Mark Hammil, a saggy-tits Carrie Fischer in another three episodes? Ugh. Not I.

Harrison Ford has already said he is not willing to reprise his role as Solo.