Trillian WON'T STOP CRASHING!!!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-09-26 12:28pm

Today when I hopped on and started Trillian, I noticed it wouldn't connect to Yahoo. It said something about invalid password. BULLSHIT. So I go into the connection manager and see everything was exactly the way it was originally. So I back out of that, and Trillian crashes. And crashes again when I restart it. And again, even after a reboot. Long story short, Trillian doesn't work anymore. Needless to say, I'm pissed off quite extremely.

BTW is there any way to permanently disable that stupid drwtsn32.exe thing that keeps a crashed program in memory for excessively long times and won't let me restart said crashed program until it's done whatever it is that it does?

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-09-26 12:30pm

Disable your Doctor Watson utility?

Other than that, check out trillian's website and check for patches.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-26 12:31pm

Nope. NT-based OSes by default will attempt to write debug information so it can be sent back to the developer.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-09-26 12:37pm

Thanks Hotfoot. I installed their 'patch E' despite the fact I already HAD patch E installed, and that fixed it. I still can't connect to Yahoo, so apparently it looks like YaHELL decided to implement some changes to their IM protocol other than the ones they warned everyone about. Figgers...

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-09-26 12:39pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Thanks Hotfoot. I installed their 'patch E' despite the fact I already HAD patch E installed, and that fixed it. I still can't connect to Yahoo, so apparently it looks like YaHELL decided to implement some changes to their IM protocol other than the ones they warned everyone about. Figgers...

I think Yahoo's been under some sort of Denial of Service attack recently or something, I've heard that even normal YIM! users couldn't log on...

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-09-26 12:41pm

Hotfoot wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Thanks Hotfoot. I installed their 'patch E' despite the fact I already HAD patch E installed, and that fixed it. I still can't connect to Yahoo, so apparently it looks like YaHELL decided to implement some changes to their IM protocol other than the ones they warned everyone about. Figgers...
I think Yahoo's been under some sort of Denial of Service attack recently or something, I've heard that even normal YIM! users couldn't log on...

I think so too. Yahoo Mail occasionally gets extremely slow too. Here's hoping Yahoo catches the little fuckers DoSing them and lives up to their YaHell nickname on the skript-kiddiots' asses!

greenmm · Post by **greenmm** » 2003-09-26 01:07pm

Nope. Completely wrong.

http://www.silicon.com/news/500012/1/6060.html

Yahoo! has now disabled Trillian's access to YIM, as well as all other 3rd-party programs trying to access YIM. So, even with the correct password and username, unless Trillian has released a new update or workaround (which I doubt), you can't use it anymore.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-09-26 01:15pm

greenmm wrote:Nope. Completely wrong.

http://www.silicon.com/news/500012/1/6060.html

Yahoo! has now disabled Trillian's access to YIM, as well as all other 3rd-party programs trying to access YIM. So, even with the correct password and username, unless Trillian has released a new update or workaround (which I doubt), you can't use it anymore.

THOSE STUPID FUCKERS!!!

And what they did COMPLETELY CRASHES TRILLIAN!! I'd construe that as Denial of Service, and I think a Jury would as well...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-26 01:24pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:And what they did COMPLETELY CRASHES TRILLIAN!! I'd construe that as Denial of Service, and I think a Jury would as well...

It is not a DOS attack. Try again. Furthermore, that would have to be the most incompetent legal defense team in the world to have the jury render a 'guilty' verdict.

Yahoo is under absolutely no obligation to allow third-party clients onto their system, a system that Yahoo pays for.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-09-26 01:34pm

phongn wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:And what they did COMPLETELY CRASHES TRILLIAN!! I'd construe that as Denial of Service, and I think a Jury would as well...
It is not a DOS attack. Try again. Furthermore, that would have to be the most incompetent legal defense team in the world to have the jury render a 'guilty' verdict.

Yahoo is under absolutely no obligation to allow third-party clients onto their system, a system that Yahoo pays for.

Ah, point.

BTW is there a way to disable the debugger in Win2K? Umm, nevermind. Google is my friend once again: Found this little tip...

article at www.winnetmag.com wrote:If you want to disable Dr. Watson, simply delete KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AeDebug

Thanks Google!

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-09-26 09:43pm

Thank's guys for the fucking anti-crashing device, I'm now rather irate. This patch idea had better work.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-09-26 09:49pm

It didn't work.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!

My computer has the same problem with MSN too.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-09-26 09:55pm

[aerius]It's because you touch yourself at night[/aerius]

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-09-26 10:19pm

I've had the same crash problems with YIM under Trillian too. AOL tried to do this a while back. It was funny watching Trillian release new patches to undo the protocol changes AOL made to AIM

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-09-26 10:21pm

Oh no, now you'll have to use the programme the service is intended for...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-09-26 10:23pm

OK, got it working again, I'd like to thank the poeple here for their help.

YT30000, may you go to hell.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-26 10:30pm

The reason I never used Yahoo! Messenger before is because they NEVER UPDATED THE FUCKING UNIX VERSION!

At least they have a version now that uses GTK2 widgets and displays the fonts at the proper size, but still, I hate having to run more than one client at once.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-09-26 10:34pm

Dalton wrote:I've had the same crash problems with YIM under Trillian too. AOL tried to do this a while back. It was funny watching Trillian release new patches to undo the protocol changes AOL made to AIM

I remember hearing about that. That was right before I got Trillian too. AOL lost that battle, and I'm sure YaHELL will lose this one too.

Gandalf wrote:OK, got it working again, I'd like to thank the poeple here for their help.

Ya welkum.

Gandalf wrote:YT30000, may you go to hell.

Seconded. And besides, don't Aerius and Jmac have copyright on that line anyway?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-09-26 10:47pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Gandalf wrote:YT30000, may you go to hell.
Seconded. And besides, don't Aerius and Jmac have copyright on that line anyway?

To Gandalf: Already here.
To Einhander: I'd pay them to use it.