New spammer strategy

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-28 04:45am

Have you been getting a lot of spam with garble in the subject line and message body, like:

"Make $50,000 a year sz487z67io.se7w5l8iw75wl,iws"?

If you're curious, this appears to be their latest tactic to get around spam filters. Most spam filters look for recognized patterns and a lot of them compare the ratio of common spam phrases to unrecognized text. This tactic is intended to pump a lot of unrecognized text into the E-mail so that the spam filter will play it safe and not kill it.

As always, DEATH TO SPAMMERS!!!

I so wish that these ass-clowns could be hauled out into a public square and beaten to within an inch of their lives.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-09-28 06:57am

Started getting those, haven't had too many though. Also of note most of USENET is getting spammed with posts containing links to .scr files.

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2003-09-28 07:27am

I tend to get a lot of them on my hotmail account, though the spam filters there, amazingly , seem to work on them just fine.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-09-28 07:40am

Archaic` wrote:I tend to get a lot of them on my hotmail account, though the spam filters there, amazingly , seem to work on them just fine.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Go figure...

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-09-28 10:09am

I always seem to get emails from dsfvbfibfdiugb@dosndosf.com or something like that. It's bloody annoying.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-09-28 10:46am

Hell, I get about 10 badly-spelt variations of 'Do you want a penis enlargement' every few hours or so. Thankfully, that's on one of my secondary accounts...

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2003-09-28 12:37pm

Yeah, just about every message I get is one of those with a character string. My real problem is that half of them come with some sort of damn 144k attachment labeled as a Microsoft update or something. My account is always full now, so I don't know if I'm missing e-mails.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-09-28 12:41pm

Here's my ultimate question regarding Spammers. Do people actually buy their products through the spam email. Seriously, how much money can they possibly make with those annoying emails?

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2003-09-28 01:07pm

--This type of evasion has been around for a while. I've gotten e-mails like that for over five years now...

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-09-28 01:10pm

Stravo wrote:Here's my ultimate question regarding Spammers. Do people actually buy their products through the spam email. Seriously, how much money can they possibly make with those annoying emails?

Somebody is buying stuff otherwise they would not be in business. There are spammers however who are looking for weak computers that can be exploited. I suppose those are not really spammers but hackers.

Spammers also look for open relays on the internet and use someone else's email server to do their dirty work. Goes a long way to tell you what kind of people these folks are.

As for the spam Mike speaks of, Ive abandoned my PacBell email for another. I dont get any spam to the new one and jelously guard it. I only got one spam in the last year. My Yahoo account is full of spam, but I just delete everything in the bulk email folder without looking.

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2003-09-28 01:50pm

Yeah I got a lot of spam like that, but with AOL 9.0 i can tell to filter out emails with certain words in it even if it is something like "makeyourpenislarger" with no space. hven't gotten any spam since i got 9.0

still aol blows

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-09-28 01:57pm

You do realize that you can do the same with mozilla mail, and you don't have to pay a cent for it.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-09-28 01:58pm

Public floggins....sounds too good for the Mike maybe adding to it cleaning up after a Trek convention Jolene Blaylock and Jeri Ryan have been to would be a good additional punishment

Hobot · Post by **Hobot** » 2003-09-28 02:08pm

Spam Assassin is god

http://www.spamassassin.org/

It gets about 90% to 95% of my spam, Netscape mail (7.1) gets just about everything else (very occasionally one or two slip through).

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-09-28 02:53pm

I use bogofilter+kmail.

BTW, I have 806 spams in my spam archive, if anyone want's them for training spam filters. They are in the form of each spam in an individual file with random names. You'll have to sed jhnphm_@_yahoo.com (remove the underscores) out and replace with your email address. Also, I set bogofilter to put spam statistics in, so you have to remove those too.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-09-28 02:57pm

Darth Wong wrote:Have you been getting a lot of spam with garble in the subject line and message body, like:

"Make $50,000 a year sz487z67io.se7w5l8iw75wl,iws"?

If you're curious, this appears to be their latest tactic to get around spam filters. Most spam filters look for recognized patterns and a lot of them compare the ratio of common spam phrases to unrecognized text. This tactic is intended to pump a lot of unrecognized text into the E-mail so that the spam filter will play it safe and not kill it.

As always, DEATH TO SPAMMERS!!!

I so wish that these ass-clowns could be hauled out into a public square and beaten to within an inch of their lives.

Hm.. I thought the presence of stuff that is almost never in regular mail would cause it to be marked as spam, regardless of unrecognized text?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-28 03:26pm

Here's my question: How do the people who are doing this block this spam from THEIR e-mail? I'm sure there must be some simple, Rosetta stone type thing they guard secretly that allows them to block their (and their friends and relatives) own spam.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-09-28 04:42pm

Hmm i seem to be having a rash of spam from <insert name here>@canada.com, and i already filled up my "@name" block filter thing.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-09-28 04:44pm

Lord Poe wrote:Here's my question: How do the people who are doing this block this spam from THEIR e-mail? I'm sure there must be some simple, Rosetta stone type thing they guard secretly that allows them to block their (and their friends and relatives) own spam.

Good point. Or then again, maybe they don't.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-28 05:07pm

I believe that the spammers should be rounded up and strapped into front-row seats for Celine Dion's Las Vegas show, forced to watch it over and over every night for six months.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-09-28 05:16pm

Darth Wong wrote:I believe that the spammers should be rounded up and strapped into front-row seats for Celine Dion's Las Vegas show, forced to watch it over and over every night for six months.

And if I were really a Black Mage, I'd then ressurect them from their brain-explosions.. AND START ALL OVER AGAIN.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-09-28 05:24pm

What's up with this "Hey there <First name> frost? thing I keep getting?

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-09-28 10:20pm

If only one person out of a million buys a product advertised by spam E-mail, the spammers make a gigantic profit. There's almost zero overhead in spamming. For spamming to die out, EVERYBODY has to stop buying from spammers. The same goes for telemarketing (though telemarketers have enormous overhead by comparison).

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-09-28 10:28pm

Spamming is never, [Y2j]eeeeeeeeeeever[/Y2j] going to go away

Organize a blacklist, and you'll get DDOS attacks up the.. big butt
Either that, or suffer a bunch of hired fucks spamming up your usenet board with lies about their "legitimate" business getting cut off from the rest of the net

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-28 10:33pm

SirNitram wrote:And if I were really a Black Mage, I'd then ressurect them from their brain-explosions.. AND START ALL OVER AGAIN.

I'm somehow reminded of Gary Mitchell putting Voyager's destruction into an infinite loop just so he could watch Janeway die repeatedly.

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