Homer vs Peter

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-09-30 09:18pm

I really enjoyed the episode when Apu was having an affair *aired tonighed* and Homer just walked backwards all the way home and dreaming it. ROFL....there were a ton of many things that Homer outclass Peter IMO. Peter isn't actually funny to me.

IMO, putting Stewie shouldn't count as he is a cast of the show not Peter himself. Stewie's qualities shouldn't be passed up to Peter.

Cyaround,
Jason

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-09-30 10:54pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Peter takes it... Not based on quotes, abilities or personality... but on the basis of his youngest son... the All-Wrathful Stewie.

Like Stewie would give a rats ass if Peter died

(Stewies Dream of a world without Louis)

(Everyone is eloquent and English)

Peter: Oh dear it seems I've spontaniously combusted
dog (I forget his name): Oh My.
Peter: No, No, it's quite alright, I've grown quite tired of living
Stewie: Oh well then.
Chris: Indeed.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-09-30 10:59pm

Majin Gojira wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Peter takes it... Not based on quotes, abilities or personality... but on the basis of his youngest son... the All-Wrathful Stewie.
Like Stewie would give a rats ass if Peter died

(Stewies Dream of a world without Louis)

(Everyone is eloquent and English)

Peter: Oh dear it seems I've spontaniously combusted
dog (I forget his name): Oh My.
Peter: No, No, it's quite alright, I've grown quite tired of living
Stewie: Oh well then.
Chris: Indeed.

The dog`s name is Brian

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-09-30 11:00pm

Mad wrote:Has Peter ever outsmarted anyone?

I suppose the Indians at the casino might count, since he made them believe he was part of their tribe...

Gojira: The dog's name is Brian.

I've gotta vote for Peter, just because Peter and Lois remind me almost perfectly of my roommate's parents. His dad is real laid-back and easygoing, doesn't give a rat's ass about most stuff, while his mother is a worrier who's constantly bustling about. Actually rather amusing when they drop by to visit him.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-09-30 11:12pm

Thanks, Temporarily blanked on his name.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-09-30 11:27pm

Homer has duked it out with far more people and triumphed in a few of those situations, has take several tens of cannon balls to the stomach, spent a good boxing carreer letting people punch him in the head until they fell down.
Homer is one TOUGH mother fucker.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-30 11:43pm

The Dark wrote: I've gotta vote for Homer, just because Homer and Marge remind me almost perfectly of my roommate's parents. His dad is real laid-back and easygoing, doesn't give a rat's ass about most stuff, while his mother is a worrier who's constantly bustling about. Actually rather amusing when they drop by to visit him.

I think I just proved a point.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-09-30 11:50pm

Majin Gojira wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Peter takes it... Not based on quotes, abilities or personality... but on the basis of his youngest son... the All-Wrathful Stewie.
Like Stewie would give a rats ass if Peter died

(Stewies Dream of a world without Louis)

(Everyone is eloquent and English)

Peter: Oh dear it seems I've spontaniously combusted
dog (I forget his name): Oh My.
Peter: No, No, it's quite alright, I've grown quite tired of living
Stewie: Oh well then.
Chris: Indeed.

I am not talking obout a fight... I am going on coolness factor... anyone who can spawn such an ideal child is cool in my book.

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2003-10-01 02:22am

Lets not forget about Homer falling down springfield gorge twice in one episode,His fist fight with barts bigger brother(Which also ended up and down the springfield gorge.)

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-10-01 03:11am

homer is the better character, peter has a better family.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-10-01 09:14am

Enforcer Talen wrote:homer is the better character, peter has a better family.

Basically

Homer does not have an ultra intelligent, megalomaniacle, matricidal infant...

"Cut my milk!"
"But I cant cut your milk, its liquid"
"It is very simple you dolt, first you freeze my milk, then you cut it. Nw cut my milk or I shall place you on diaper duty, and I gurantee you, it will NOT be pleasant"

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-10-01 09:21am

Heh, Stewie and Brian rock. But I have to give it Homer.

And the best talking animal with meglomaniacal aspirations is Dogbert.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-01 12:37pm

As I said in the mirror thread in SB.
"That's the thing, Peter Griffin is a completely random arbitrary asshole. Homer, while having those moments, at least is a well rounded character and has very redeeming moments. He's nowhere near as completely off the wall as Peter. He's got character, he actually cares about his family despite being really stupid, and he does have some redeeming moments when he shows that he's a really decent guy. Plus, he has all the completely random stupidity you could ask for. There is no way that you can claim that Homer is a worse character than Peter, because Homer actually has a well-rounded character.

That's why the Simpsons is a far better show. It's just not a collection of random things happening. While some seasons are much better than others, each episode usually has a coherant story and a message. It actually tries to reflect the human condition and the characters actually learn things. It's a good show on top of all the craziness. Family Guy just takes all the Simpsons insanity but none of it's content."

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-10-01 12:58pm

Another thing is that for the most part, The Simpsons doesn't hang onto it's jokes as long as Family Guy does.

Episodes of Family Guy play out like the jokes are two few and underwritten, so they have to stretch them out longer than they should, to the point where they lose their punch.

I mean, about a month ago while I was watching an episode I was thinking to myself "Okay, so why exactly have we been watching Stewie sing "Rocket Man" two different ways for more then sixty seconds?" I know it was probably a reference to something, but Christ, was it boring to watch...

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-10-01 02:48pm

I love Family Guy precisely because it is mindless, random insanity with non-sequitur obsolete pop-culture references thrown in. There are shows I watch when I want thoughtful entertainment and shows I watch when I want to turn off my brain. Family Guy is naptime for my brain.

That said, I relate quite easily to Peter's non-sequitur references, mainly because I love throwing them into conversation with my friends at random as well.

"And not special like that kid down the street, I mean special like Special K. And whatever happened to Regular K? Speaking of which, what happened to Kay Ballard? You know if you said Ballard and you had a cold it'd come out like Mallard."

My mind works like that. It will take something and follow it down a line of progression. Only instead of talking my way through it all, I usually blurt out where I end up to my friends, leaving them confused until I can explain how I got there.

Not surprisingly when I do manage to remember my dreams, they're not very coherent usually.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-10-01 03:07pm

I don't know why so many people hate Peter so much. I think that for the time, Homer was funnier but today Peter makes me laugh more. Take this example:

Lois: Peter, I think that...
Peter: Quiet Lois, MEN are talking!

or how about:

Quagmire: Hey Peter, I remember a time when you save our butts.
Peter: Yeah, too bad I didn't get there till after the sodomy...

Peter is more than just a ruder and fatter version of Homer. We're not supposed to LIKE Peter, he's a mysogenist, an drunk and he loves KISS. Homer OTOH is the modern equivalent of a teddy bear.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-10-01 03:09pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Another thing is that for the most part, The Simpsons doesn't hang onto it's jokes as long as Family Guy does.

Episodes of Family Guy play out like the jokes are two few and underwritten, so they have to stretch them out longer than they should, to the point where they lose their punch.

I mean, about a month ago while I was watching an episode I was thinking to myself "Okay, so why exactly have we been watching Stewie sing "Rocket Man" two different ways for more then sixty seconds?" I know it was probably a reference to something, but Christ, was it boring to watch...

Spanky, that had to be the LEAST funny joke of the entire series (and no, I'm not kidding) and it's hardly a basis for discounting the humor of the entire show. The only other joke that ran that long was the one with Peter beating up a chicken, which I found hillarious.

Anyways, for a person who like Evangelion so much, you shouldn't criticise a show for holding a scene for too long

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-10-01 03:22pm

Peter has moments but the problem is that I find the dog and Stewie...and heck Quagmire more memorable. The only one I find less so is the daughter.

Of the Simpsons...Homer rates up there because it's not just moments but literally episodes of things.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-01 05:45pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Peter has moments but the problem is that I find the dog and Stewie...and heck Quagmire more memorable. The only one I find less so is the daughter.

Of the Simpsons...Homer rates up there because it's not just moments but literally episodes of things.

Homer Simpson became the main character of the Simpsons as time went on. In Family Buy, the other characters took a much larger part.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-01 05:57pm

I walked into this thread expecting a debate on philosphers, then i remembered where i was.

To sum the thread off we have Homer (The Original) vs Peter (The Clone).

Homer takes it by a mile. Hell the man can take a cannon ball in the stomach and get punched multiple times in the head and not feel anything.

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2003-10-01 06:07pm

Homer Simpson all the way. He is THE original stupid fat guy. He's the life blood of his show. Plus, we have seen moments that prove he's a really decent guy under all that fat and witlessness. I don't recall that ever happening with Peter Griffin. I mean, the guy got massive plastic surgery done to make himself look good, and then when he and his son go to some beautiful people's meeting and he finds out his son isn't allowed in, he just leaves him outside. What a jackass!

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-10-01 06:33pm

They're both just clones of Ralph Kramden.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-01 06:56pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:They're both just clones of Ralph Kramden.

I'd have thought more Al Bundy.

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2003-10-01 07:02pm

Al Bundy wasn't fat, and I have no clue who Ralph Kramden is.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-01 07:05pm

aye but the slobbishness and attitude was there.

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