Shooting Projectile Weapons (In Response to 'Weapons...')

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 12:35am

Well, do you regularly actually shoot any projectile weapons (archery equipment or firearms) that you happen to own?

I try and get out and pop off a few rounds every chance I get, whether it is plinking with my .22, busting off some .308 rounds, or just blasting clay pigeons with one of my shotguns.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-02 12:48am

I shoot my SKS occasionally, and my .22 quite heavily. An AR-15, M1911 and a couple different shotguns come into my hands much less often and only very occasionally do I get to take up one of my father much older weapons, the collection includes everything from a Bren gun to a Spencer repeater from the civil war and a few things even older.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-10-02 12:51am

A cop buddy of mine found a Thompson sub machine gun in a weapons locker at the local PD that's been there for years. They cleaned it up and took me with them to the firing range to shoot it. Now, THAT'S a weapon!

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2003-10-02 12:55am

Considering my parents' house is outside of city limits, we can shoot in our backyard whenever the hell we feel like it, more or less (well, at least one of our neighbors seems to shoot whenever).

I've used my Winchester 70 rifle every month or two so far, though now we've got a nice place to shoot from, I'd like to use it more often and get familiar with cleaning it and such.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-10-02 12:56am

Superman wrote:A cop buddy of mine found a Thompson sub machine gun in a weapons locker at the local PD that's been there for years. They cleaned it up and took me with them to the firing range to shoot it. Now, THAT'S a weapon!

It might be interesting to run a trace on that weapon's serial number to
see precisely when it was transferred to the local PD for fun (and to
see just how old it is)

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-02 12:59am

Heh, nothing's more fun than "blowing up" stuff with a shotgun.

*chak-chak*

*aim*

*BOOOM*

If you had a coke can, it's basically gone. If it was an old tire, a quarter of it is missing. And that's just with a 20-gauge. I haven't tried out the 12-gauge yet.

Shotguns are cool.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-10-02 01:00am

I rarely get the chance to take the .22 rifle to the range with my father.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-10-02 01:03am

Shinova wrote:Heh, nothing's more fun than "blowing up" stuff with a shotgun.

*chak-chak*

*aim*

*BOOOM*

If you had a coke can, it's basically gone. If it was an old tire, a quarter of it is missing. And that's just with a 20-gauge. I haven't tried out the 12-gauge yet.

Shotguns are cool.

Imagine one of the 4-gauge shotguns they used to use for hunting.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-02 01:08am

beyond hope wrote:
Imagine one of the 4-gauge shotguns they used to use for hunting.

Four gauge is something like 27mm, while such guns do exist I can't think of anything on earth you'd hunt with them. Anything that huge won't give a damn about shotgun rounds, you need a big rifle to puncture organs.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-10-02 01:10am

What were those shotguns created for? Seems like you're almost getting into cannon-with-grapeshot territory.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-10-02 01:23am

Anyone know anything about those rifles called 'elephant guns?' I once read that they shoot two huge projectiles but I really know nothing about them. Anyone ever fire one?

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-10-02 01:25am

They used to use 4-gauge shotguns for hunting birds along the Chesapeake. The thing would be bolted to the front of your boat: you'd then point the bow in the general direction of a whole flock and fire, then row out to pick up the remains. Of course, you had massive flocks of things like passenger pidgeons to point it at back then.

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-10-02 01:28am

Every weekend I go out to the local outdorr range and plink off about 100 rounds with my K98. God that is the best gun ever made.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 01:29am

4 Gauge 'Punt Guns' were used for fowl hunting. In the 18th and 19th centuries, commercial fowlers would basically mount this gun on the front of their boat, sneak up to a flock of ducks, and blast away, taking as many out with one shot as they could. They would stuff pieces of lead, rocks, anything small and solid they could find down into the barrel to be fired.

Also, a British company still makes a 5 gauge shotgun for goose hunting. It is effective out to something like 150 yards, while you wouldn't want to shoot anything past 30-40, at MOST, with your typical 12 gauge shotguns.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 01:32am

Superman wrote:Anyone know anything about those rifles called 'elephant guns?' I once read that they shoot two huge projectiles but I really know nothing about them. Anyone ever fire one?

'Elephant Guns' is a colloquial term to describe any large caliber 'magnum' round, such as the .455 H&H Magnum, .416 Rigby Magnum, and .458 Winchester Magnum. These guns are usually found in double barrel form to allow for a quick follow up shot. A few bolt rifles have been made, but, it takes a hefty bolt to be able to stand up to that kind of artillery.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-02 01:34am

Howedar wrote:What were those shotguns created for? Seems like you're almost getting into cannon-with-grapeshot territory.

I have no idea in hell; the only ones I'm aware of where intended for sale to militaries, basically as hybrid combat shotguns with grenade launcher capability I guess. The only name that comes to mind is the Defender-12. But there are a few other's, generally loading from a big rotary drum of some sort, or even with revolving chambers. I think its basically an attempt for gun companies to create a new problume there new gun could solve, and the armies of the world telling them to fuck off. None has ever seen noticeable production. There really quite stupid, too much weight, recoil and bulk.

Though I do believe four gauge shotguns have something of a historical basis, but from the early 19th century. No one cannot love the firearms of that century. I really want a ten-barreled .65cal Gatling gun. That's the real deal, not some puny six-barreled .45cal piece of crap.

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-10-02 01:35am

Sr.mal wrote:Every weekend I go out to the local outdorr range and plink off about 100 rounds with my K98. God that is the best gun ever made.

Love using the iron sights at 200m and getting a 4inch diameter grouping. Have to love the flip up rear sight with marks for range. Takes more skill, and I get more kicks than using a scope.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 01:37am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Howedar wrote:What were those shotguns created for? Seems like you're almost getting into cannon-with-grapeshot territory.
I have no idea in hell; the only ones I'm aware of where intended for sale to militaries, basically as hybrid combat shotguns with grenade launcher capability I guess. The only name that comes to mind is the Defender-12. But there are a few other's, generally loading from a big rotary drum of some sort, or even with revolving chambers. I think its basically an attempt for gun companies to create a new problume there new gun could solve, and the armies of the world telling them to fuck off. None has ever seen noticeable production. There really quite stupid, too much weight, recoil and bulk.

Though I do believe four gauge shotguns have something of a historical basis, but from the early 19th century. No one cannot love the firearms of that century. I really want a ten-barreled .65cal Gatling gun. That's the real deal, not some puny six-barreled .45cal piece of crap.

Look up, Skimmer.

*Gloats that he knows something about firearms that Skimmer doesn't know*

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-10-02 01:37am

So, what does one shoot with a weapon the size of an 'elephant gun?'

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 01:39am

Superman wrote:So, what does one shoot with a weapon the size of an 'elephant gun?'

I'll give you one guess.

Big. Dangerous. Game.

Lions, water buffaloes, elephants, etc. Stuff you want to go down on the first shot, and if you don't get that first shot, the odds of you making it out of there in one piece are pretty slim.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-10-02 01:40am

All the stuff that's basically endangered and shouldn't be killed. Got it.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-10-02 01:41am

Superman wrote:So, what does one shoot with a weapon the size of an 'elephant gun?'

Ummmm.... elephants?

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 01:42am

Superman wrote:All the stuff that's basically endangered and shouldn't be killed. Got it.

Oy, don't turn this into a hunting debate. The people that hunt this sort of thing are conservationists, as are all ethical hunters. They don't go out killing them by the dozens. An African hunt is a once in a lifetime thing. Water buffaloes, lions, and elephants aren't endangered in the region where they can be legally hunted.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-10-02 01:43am

Got it.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-02 01:44am

Superman wrote:Got it.

Good.