How long will it take AJT to reply?
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Interestiong that he has time to read this thread and our responses, write a "witty" reply (as if someone in a Harry Potter life action RPG can actually have a social life ) but has not time to address his so called argument.
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I've had the mother of all colds for the past few days now ( full nose of snot every 10 minutes, coughing fits every 10 minutes, lack of sleep due to coughing fits when i lay down, brief bout of throwing up, head feeling like it shrinks a few sizes every time i cough, etc, etc.) and i've still managed to attend all my lectures, get down to the libruary to look up some stuff for various assignments several times, maintained a fairly active participation on the board and go on a pub crawl!
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Out of curiosity, does anyone here feel the slightest bit like cutting him some slack after that post? I wanna make sure I'm not the only cold hearted bastard here.
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That post is an excuse post that really doesn't measure up. If you are serious about debating someone then it is hardly beyond asking a alf an hour's time over the length he has had since the last reply. Now sympathy for his situation? Maybe I have that, but it serves as no excuse for the extreme tardiness of his posting.Ender wrote:Out of curiosity, does anyone here feel the slightest bit like cutting him some slack after that post? I wanna make sure I'm not the only cold hearted bastard here.
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Not really...like I said...he couldn't muster a half an hour with all the time between Wong's reply and now? Then all he's been blithering is a lame excuse mixed in with a snide remark that either we or Mike has no social life or problems and thus is an exclusive problem of his.Ender wrote:Out of curiosity, does anyone here feel the slightest bit like cutting him some slack after that post? I wanna make sure I'm not the only cold hearted bastard here.
Sorry, he wanted this debate...he better either debate or conceed.
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Guys, come on just give him a break. If he's actually going to post a reply, it doesn't matter if he takes a few days to do it. He hasn't run away from the debate yet, so until he does let's not start unilateraly bashing him, no matter what we may think of his arguments.
Also I don't think it's any of our business what his personal life is like and what constraints on time he has. If his life has kept him from posting, fine. If he has spent the last few days feverishly digging through sources to refute Wong, so much the better. It really doesn't matter. He's here, and it looks like he's going to stand his ground so until the debate is over we can a least give him a certain amount of respect. After all, how many of Mike's debates have gone this long?
Also I don't think it's any of our business what his personal life is like and what constraints on time he has. If his life has kept him from posting, fine. If he has spent the last few days feverishly digging through sources to refute Wong, so much the better. It really doesn't matter. He's here, and it looks like he's going to stand his ground so until the debate is over we can a least give him a certain amount of respect. After all, how many of Mike's debates have gone this long?
Have you even been reading the debate?? Its a fucking cut and paste job from Darkstar's site. He makes points that are laughable or outrigt lies (the door in the detention block not being blown up)The Kernel wrote:Guys, come on just give him a break. If he's actually going to post a reply, it doesn't matter if he takes a few days to do it. He hasn't run away from the debate yet, so until he does let's not start unilateraly bashing him, no matter what we may think of his arguments.
Also I don't think it's any of our business what his personal life is like and what constraints on time he has. If his life has kept him from posting, fine. If he has spent the last few days feverishly digging through sources to refute Wong, so much the better. It really doesn't matter. He's here, and it looks like he's going to stand his ground so until the debate is over we can a least give him a certain amount of respect. After all, how many of Mike's debates have gone this long?
We did not bring his social life into this. He was the one that started making snide remarks about actually having a life and how he was going to "school us". Go back and read his posts. people here were more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he started showing his ass.
He deserves every bit of the abuse being heaped on him. Oh, did you miss the first excuse to dodge the debate altogether when he said daddy did not allow him on the computer anymore but was persuing and posting in Fantasy during this period? He's a fucking little cunt liar and he deserves this and more until he concedes.
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I don't read Darkstar's site (I'm afraid I need to keep my brain cells for the future) so no, I didn't know that he was taking his entire argument from there. I don't doubt that his is nothing but a little teenage shit, but I was just making the point that as long as he is still debating Wong, we might as well cut him a little slack. You notice that Wong does the same thing with his debate opponents? He gives them a lot of leeway in their argument and figures which I assume he does because he doesn't want to scare them away.Stravo wrote:Have you even been reading the debate?? Its a fucking cut and paste job from Darkstar's site. He makes points that are laughable or outrigt lies (the door in the detention block not being blown up)The Kernel wrote:Guys, come on just give him a break. If he's actually going to post a reply, it doesn't matter if he takes a few days to do it. He hasn't run away from the debate yet, so until he does let's not start unilateraly bashing him, no matter what we may think of his arguments.
Also I don't think it's any of our business what his personal life is like and what constraints on time he has. If his life has kept him from posting, fine. If he has spent the last few days feverishly digging through sources to refute Wong, so much the better. It really doesn't matter. He's here, and it looks like he's going to stand his ground so until the debate is over we can a least give him a certain amount of respect. After all, how many of Mike's debates have gone this long?
We did not bring his social life into this. He was the one that started making snide remarks about actually having a life and how he was going to "school us". Go back and read his posts. people here were more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he started showing his ass.
He deserves every bit of the abuse being heaped on him. Oh, did you miss the first excuse to dodge the debate altogether when he said daddy did not allow him on the computer anymore but was persuing and posting in Fantasy during this period? He's a fucking little cunt liar and he deserves this and more until he concedes.
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Read the website...hell he has a hatemail page with dates and all, and thus has shown how long Mike has had debates and how others have responded infinitly faster.
Also read his former two responses as well...which had to easily have some of the most erroneous shit I've seen in a long while.
And amazingly only dip has ever talked about his personal life, in fact he was the one who brought up his over domineering father, his supposed hackster brother and finally his Harry Potter RPG time and him being 17...so where did any of give a shit about his personal life.
You want to debate you amek time for it...don't walk off because somehow real life interfers and presume the other side is going to accept that as an excuse, especially when the other side has two sons and a wife.
And as for respect the dipshit basically called us ignorant morons.
So before going how we are being mean refer to all his prior yabbering and then finally wanting to show us the light before getting on a soapbox and preaching how we are somehow being mean to this pussy, becuase he has done more then deserve this.
Also read his former two responses as well...which had to easily have some of the most erroneous shit I've seen in a long while.
And amazingly only dip has ever talked about his personal life, in fact he was the one who brought up his over domineering father, his supposed hackster brother and finally his Harry Potter RPG time and him being 17...so where did any of give a shit about his personal life.
You want to debate you amek time for it...don't walk off because somehow real life interfers and presume the other side is going to accept that as an excuse, especially when the other side has two sons and a wife.
And as for respect the dipshit basically called us ignorant morons.
So before going how we are being mean refer to all his prior yabbering and then finally wanting to show us the light before getting on a soapbox and preaching how we are somehow being mean to this pussy, becuase he has done more then deserve this.
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I HAVE read Mike's hate mail page and near as I can tell, Darkstar was the only one to go the full five rounds with Mike. I couldn't stand Darkstar's nitpicky, verbeage filled arguments, but at least he stuck with it.Ghost Rider wrote:Read the website...hell he has a hatemail page with dates and all, and thus has shown how long Mike has had debates and how others have responded infinitly faster.
Also read his former two responses as well...which had to easily have some of the most erroneous shit I've seen in a long while.
And amazingly only dip has ever talked about his personal life, in fact he was the one who brought up his over domineering father, his supposed hackster brother and finally his Harry Potter RPG time and him being 17...so where did any of give a shit about his personal life.
You want to debate you amek time for it...don't walk off because somehow real life interfers and presume the other side is going to accept that as an excuse, especially when the other side has two sons and a wife.
And as for respect the dipshit basically called us ignorant morons.
So before going how we are being mean refer to all his prior yabbering and then finally wanting to show us the light before getting on a soapbox and preaching how we are somehow being mean to this pussy, becuase he has done more then deserve this.
I just joined this forum as the whole Mike vs. AJT started, so I don't know all the personal history behind it. What I do know is that it's been an entertaining debate as far as debates go and I'd rather not spoil it by having the whole board crashing down on this guy. I'm not asking people to like him, just that we should save personal attacks until after the debate is over.
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Why...he's insulted us and claimed he would show the light and his first two debate post have been nothing but Darkstar drivel.
I've seen better out of comiccon goers claiming the Ent-D navigational array makes them immune to Turbo-Lasers.
He made the CHALLENGE and has made numerous EXCUSES...as the saying goes, put up or shut up.
Hell the only good thing is that he's livened up the board...of that I'll thank him for his rank stupidity.
I've seen better out of comiccon goers claiming the Ent-D navigational array makes them immune to Turbo-Lasers.
He made the CHALLENGE and has made numerous EXCUSES...as the saying goes, put up or shut up.
Hell the only good thing is that he's livened up the board...of that I'll thank him for his rank stupidity.
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And the rest of us don't have lots of stuff going on? I have a full time job, volunteer work on Monday nights, band rehearsal on Tuesday and Thrusday evenings, class on Wednesday, often a football game for the band to perform at on Saturday. A highschool kid like you doesn't know the meaning of hte word busy. Don't even try to use the "I was too busy" excuse against your debate opponent. His schedule easily makes yours look like child's play (see the postscript of the "Lord Edam" debate).Andrew Joshua Talon wrote:However, given that I do have a reasonably active social life, studying, an overcontrolling father, and a car that breaks down frequently and must be repaired, I think there is a fair margin of forgiveness that could be attached to the waiting periods.
There is a reason most debates have a time limit on replies.After all, if I'm going to be defeated, it doesn't matter how long it takes, does it?
Actually, it does. You can't work on your broken down car, socialize or go to school when you have a cold. You have all the time you need to be on your computer.And having a cold doesn't help either. (sniff) Ugh...
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No. See my last post in this thread. This twit has nothing to complain about in terms of schedule when compared to DW or the rest of us.Ender wrote:Out of curiosity, does anyone here feel the slightest bit like cutting him some slack after that post?
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On second thought, I will give AJT credit for conceeding on the range issue. His idol would never conceed on anything no matter how obvious the problem with the argument was. AJT is a step above that.
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Listen here, you sanctimonious son of a bitch. I've watched you make an ass out of yourself the whole time you've been here, and I've kept quiet most of the time, but no more! You know that name you have, the one your parents decided to give you? Yeah, that's not just your name. It's a name shared by a hell of a lot of people, myself included, and I'm tired of seeing it associated with a gutless little wanker like you. So I'm going to be nice for once, and only once, and ask you, one Andrew J. to another: please concede the debate. I know it's tough swallowing your pride when you're young; regardless, even you must realize it's hopeless. End it now and you may at least, hopefully, earn yourself an iota of respect for exceeding the expectations of everyone else here, who think that you will follow the example of RSA and just keep going forever.Andrew Joshua Talon wrote:Ahem...
I'm here, thanks. And I feel it is my duty to apologize for the long wait periods between the uploads.
However, given that I do have a reasonably active social life, studying, an overcontrolling father, and a car that breaks down frequently and must be repaired, I think there is a fair margin of forgiveness that could be attached to the waiting periods.
After all, if I'm going to be defeated, it doesn't matter how long it takes, does it?
And having a cold doesn't help either. (sniff) Ugh...
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That's fine if you post an argument, now.Andrew Joshua Talon wrote:Ahem...
I'm here, thanks. And I feel it is my duty to apologize for the long wait periods between the uploads.
Yeah. I've heard Harry Potter RPG's can be murder on your free time.However, given that I do have a reasonably active social life,
Whine all you want, buddy, but honestly there's no reason why you can't spare a half hour in the space of weeks to make a post.studying, an overcontrolling father, and a car that breaks down frequently and must be repaired, I think there is a fair margin of forgiveness that could be attached to the waiting periods.
Actually, it's common debate courtesy to make your posts in a reasonable amount of time, which is part of why DarkStar's latest tactic of claiming he's beaten me and is going to explain how he did it on his website whenever the heck he gets around to it is so irritating. If you don't have time to make responses, then don't go around getting into debates. It's really not that complicated.After all, if I'm going to be defeated, it doesn't matter how long it takes, does it?
Oh, no, the whiny bitch is sick to cap it all off. I'm not having much sympathy, given that you basically copy-paste DarkStar's arguments, anyway (which can't take more than... what? Ten seconds per statement?), your pompous attitude, your parroting Anderson's methods, and your incredible lack of basic skills and vocabulary. But the worst part about this is that you STILL haven't put up anything. Make an argument, don't randomly pop up every now and then to tell Mike he's wrong. Mike's making posts within hours of yours, and then it takes you days and weeks to come up with a response.And having a cold doesn't help either. (sniff) Ugh...
At least you're not trying to make it appear that tardiness in debates is a good thing anymore. It really isn't polite, though, and frankly I'm tired of your intolerable retreating. You've had several weekends between now and Mike's last post. I seem to remember that HS kids have a LOT of time over the weekends to kill. Make an argument, and if you lose, admit defeat.
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To be fair, that's not quite true.Lord Poe wrote:Good. Now will you actually have a debate point of your own, or will you continue to cut and paste arguments from Darkstar's site?Andrew Joshua Talon wrote:Ahem...I'm here, thanks. .
You know, that ENTIRE website has already been refuted, don't you?
I believe the "links" page still stands undefeated.
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It's actually not surprising that it's taking him so long. It's much harder to construct a rebuttal when you don't have the facts on your side, because then you must very carefully craft your rhetoric in order to compensate. And he's only dug himself into a deeper hole with his increasing use of outright lies (particularly lies involving doors and dirt), which were photographically refuted. Now he has to sit down and think really hard about how he's going to weasel out of the mess he made, and that's very time consuming.
Of course, if he was a man rather than an arrogant boy, he might know when to throw in the towel. Darkstar never throws in the towel because he has nothing else in his life; his crusade against "Warsies" is the only thing he has. But if AJT is telling the truth about actually having a life, then his only reason for continuing to tilt at windmills is pride, and he obviously doesn't realize that you can't save face by desperately trying to bullshit your way out of your own mess.
Of course, if he was a man rather than an arrogant boy, he might know when to throw in the towel. Darkstar never throws in the towel because he has nothing else in his life; his crusade against "Warsies" is the only thing he has. But if AJT is telling the truth about actually having a life, then his only reason for continuing to tilt at windmills is pride, and he obviously doesn't realize that you can't save face by desperately trying to bullshit your way out of your own mess.
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I'm here, thanks. And I feel it is my duty to apologize for the long wait periods between the uploads.
However, given that I do have a reasonably active social life, studying, an overcontrolling father, and a car that breaks down frequently and must be repaired, I think there is a fair margin of forgiveness that could be attached to the waiting periods.
After all, if I'm going to be defeated, it doesn't matter how long it takes, does it?
And having a cold doesn't help either. (sniff) Ugh...
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