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Re: Mandatory military service

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Shrykull wrote:It's a law in a lot of countries, I know someone who had to do it in Cape Verde growing up. How many of you are just total non-military types and would hate more than anything to do it? I've heard vietnam vets talk about how draftees were the crappiest soldiers because they didn't want to be there and resented it, and didn't do their jobs well, but you have civilizations like the romans who military service was mandatory and it worked pretty well for them and those civ took it nose dive when it went away.
Personally, I'm not a person to want to go into the military, esp. given that several educators I've had in the past have been in the military, both my father and stepfather have been, my aunt, my cousin, my brother, and my grandfather, and probably other relatives have all been in the military.

That.. and obvious reasons should apply.

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Singapore as a pariah nation:

I suppose I should clarify. Other countries are happy that Singapore is an efficiently-run totalitarian state, and enjoy the country as a port and a place to send money. However, they don't love it enough to give up their own citizens for peculiar Singapore justice, hence no extradition.

Michael Fay:

The vandalism law at the time only mandated caning in the cases where indelible substances were used. This was not the case re: Michael Fay.
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Post by Hamel »

Xisiqomelir wrote:Singapore as a pariah nation:

I suppose I should clarify. Other countries are happy that Singapore is an efficiently-run totalitarian state, and enjoy the country as a port and a place to send money. However, they don't love it enough to give up their own citizens for peculiar Singapore justice, hence no extradition.

Michael Fay:

The vandalism law at the time only mandated caning in the cases where indelible substances were used. This was not the case re: Michael Fay.
So Fay was wrongly punished, then
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Hamel wrote: So Fay was wrongly punished, then
Sadly it's never that simple.

If by "indelible" you mean "indelible", then yes, he was wrongly punished. (My opinion)

If by "indelible" you mean "water insoluble" then no, the punishment was appropriate.

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Xisiqomelir wrote:Other countries are happy that Singapore is an efficiently-run totalitarian state
Of course other nations are happy with Singapore. It's quite useful in checking the growing Islamic fundamentalists in Indonesia and Malaysia. There was a thread last week in another forum where Singaporean was bragging about how the tiny red dot on the map has more military hardware than its neighbors.

I've heard a rumor that it was once illegal to walk together with 3 other people in Singapore because the government might view you guys as an insurgent group. It's no doubt exaggerated, but how true was it in the past couple decades?
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IIRC, a group of 3 is enough to be considered an illegal gathering, under the draconican Internal Security Act laws that BOTH singapore and malaysia share.

of course claims of its rampant use are greatly greatly exaggerated.

BTW, i live here in malaysia and i can assure you islamic fundlementalism (as opposed to moderate islam) is only a real force in the rural malay heartland states of Terrenganu and Kelantan, possibly Kedah and Perlis. of the 4, only Terengganu is significant, because of oil deposits.

the richest and most powerful states are not going to fall to the islamist opposition anytime soon.
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