"Uneducated Southerner" stereotypes

[LadyTevar]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WV cracked the top twenty!!!

Once again, we're better than Louisiana!!!

(old WV joke, from many rank lists where Louisiana is often the only one ranked lower)

[haas mark]

The thing is though, having a HS graduation doesn't mean jack in today's society. You really need to have a college education. Sure Montana might have a better K-12 system than California, but can it really compare with the Undergraduate/Graduate schools California fields like CalTech, UC Berkeley, Stanford, UCLA, etc.?

Don't people say the same thing about the US in general? How although we rank behind 20-something countries in test scores, but our universities are among the best in the world, or something like that.

As for my HS, I don't know the results, but you need a 90% to get an A, while you needed a 93% at my old school. Is that a good thing, or are they just dumbing down the grading curve because fewer students would otherwise be able to claim an A average?

I don't know about that.. but I always preferred the 7-point system back east over the 10-point system they have here out west..

~ver

[haas mark]

It doesn't surprise me that New Mexico is at the bottom. Our schools are so fucking poor in every way.

<-- wasn't surprised either. I mean, come on, every month we've got something new on the news telling us about how we're the #1 for something bad.. drug usage, drug busts, teen rapes, teen pregnancies, etc., etc. Though, we are onyl #7 for road rage. At least, last I checked, hehe.

~ver

[Pu-239]

The thing is though, having a HS graduation doesn't mean jack in today's society. You really need to have a college education. Sure Montana might have a better K-12 system than California, but can it really compare with the Undergraduate/Graduate schools California fields like CalTech, UC Berkeley, Stanford, UCLA, etc.?

Don't people say the same thing about the US in general? How although we rank behind 20-something countries in test scores, but our universities are among the best in the world, or something like that.

As for my HS, I don't know the results, but you need a 90% to get an A, while you needed a 93% at my old school. Is that a good thing, or are they just dumbing down the grading curve because fewer students would otherwise be able to claim an A average?

In my county, one has to get 94+ to get an A.
I don't know about that.. but I always preferred the 7-point system back east over the 10-point system they have here out west..

~ver

[Pu-239]

WTF happend? Anyway, one has to get a 94 or above to get an A.

[Hamel]

The longest standard has been a 10 point system 90-100 = A, etc
Some districts use the 7 point system, which make things a little tougher, but doesn't hurt that much unless you get really low grades

[Illuminatus Primus]

And now with School Choice*, living in the former PHUHS school zone is no longer a guaruntee that you can go there!

* Some crazy plan thought up by the school board to end the old court-mandated desegregation system. About four years ago I did a little video news package on it and it looked like a mess then. It's a mess now, and the Superindendant is retiring ... one year after implementation

A totally stupid plan with a significant number of students at key programs: CAT, Medical and Wellness, IB, Criminal Justice...etc...having to go a half hour plus early to school with it beginning at 7:05. I have to awake at 6:00 at least everyday, and with High School kids this regularly results in zombie land.

[Illuminatus Primus]

I think Hillsborough's magnet schools are allright, whereas the area ones tend to have a rather sucky reputation. That's probably because the best teachers/equipment/money go to them, and the students are (theoretically) more motivated, since they had to apply to go there and can (in theory) be kicked out if they don't do well (conduct/attendence/grade-wise). That never seemed to happen, at least in mine (people getting kicked out) but that's the theory.

IB kids drop like flies.

The junior class has 141. Last year we had 150+. The senior class has like 80-something kids. (Of course the seniors are an unusually dysfunctional and irresponsible group of kids--we don't know what happened to them ).

[phongn]

The junior class has 141. Last year we had 150+. The senior class has like 80-something kids. (Of course the seniors are an unusually dysfunctional and irresponsible group of kids--we don't know what happened to them ).

My brother's a senior. He heads up your unofficial Amnesty International chapter.

CAT students dropped like flies one year, nobody knew WTF happened. They actually dropped standards a bit to ensure enough students would stay in for the programme to remain viable. My year was considered the King of Slackers until a few years later. Oddly, we also had the most overachieving class due to a few oddities allowing students to take more AP courses than normal.

Anyways, I'll freely admit it here: PHUHS IB beats CAT academically. Still, I have to say our program is pretty good; certainly better than the standard program at most area high schools. And if you like video editing or production or robotics, we kick ass in those fields

[phongn]

A totally stupid plan with a significant number of students at key programs: CAT, Medical and Wellness, IB, Criminal Justice...etc...having to go a half hour plus early to school with it beginning at 7:05. I have to awake at 6:00 at least everyday, and with High School kids this regularly results in zombie land.

Ah, poor baby. I got on the bus at 0600 when I was in high school, and I was hardly the earliest stop in North Pinellas.

[phongn]

The longest standard has been a 10 point system 90-100 = A, etc
Some districts use the 7 point system, which make things a little tougher, but doesn't hurt that much unless you get really low grades

Florida has just officially changed to the 10 point system, but for years higher-level classes have used it 'unofficially.'

AFAIK, the 7-point system was based on a bell curve, but don't quote me on that.

[Soontir C'boath]

A totally stupid plan with a significant number of students at key programs: CAT, Medical and Wellness, IB, Criminal Justice...etc...having to go a half hour plus early to school with it beginning at 7:05. I have to awake at 6:00 at least everyday, and with High School kids this regularly results in zombie land.

Ah, poor baby. I got on the bus at 0600 when I was in high school, and I was hardly the earliest stop in North Pinellas.

As long as we're doing this, my bro has to wake up at 5:30 and leave for school that starts at 6 when he was in H.S. IIRC so that's topped.~Jason

[phongn]

Waking up at 0530 isn't that bad, though. My school started at 0720.

[Illuminatus Primus]

A totally stupid plan with a significant number of students at key programs: CAT, Medical and Wellness, IB, Criminal Justice...etc...having to go a half hour plus early to school with it beginning at 7:05. I have to awake at 6:00 at least everyday, and with High School kids this regularly results in zombie land.

Ah, poor baby. I got on the bus at 0600 when I was in high school, and I was hardly the earliest stop in North Pinellas.

That was your fault for going to CAT, a slacker program ( ), in the shittiest area of Pinellas County.

Phongn, you belonged with the Dark Side, among us IB kids at PHU.

[RedImperator]

My old high school steadily increased the minimum standards for all grades as the years went by, either to combat grade inflation or force teachers and students to work harder or both. When I got in, 64 was a passing grade and a 93 was an A-. By the time my sister graduated three years after me, a 70 was the lowest passing grade, and an A- was a 95.

[Soontir C'boath]

Hmm and to be in Arista you only need at least an 85 average...heh~Jason

[phongn]

That was your fault for going to CAT, a slacker program ( ), in the shittiest area of Pinellas County.

If you think the area around Lakewood is the shittiest area of Pinellas County, you haven't seen that much of the county. There's worse.

Phongn, you belonged with the Dark Side, among us IB kids at PHU.

I was told that rather often. Now, hold still so our robot can eviscerate you live on the 'net.

[haas mark]

Waking up at 0530 isn't that bad, though. My school started at 0720.

Ah, yes, but did you have to take public buses? I had to get up at 530 in the morning, then be out at the stop by 615 in order to get to school by 720 (in order to have time for breakfast) and then school started at 730.

~ver

[haas mark]

Waking up at 0530 isn't that bad, though. My school started at 0720.

Ah, yes, but did you have to take public buses? I had to get up at 530 in the morning, then be out at the stop by 615 in order to get to school by 720 (in order to have time for breakfast) and then school started at 730.

~ver

Forgot to mention the five-minute wait for the first bus, which sometimes was waiting up to half an hour cos the buses were stupid, as well as the 15-minute wait for a transfer between buses halfways through the trip.

~ver

[Cyborg Stan]

I recall waking up at 5:00 AM to get to the bus, which usually came an hour or so later. (It was interesting because at the same time, I had the ability to go from asleep to fully alert in an instant.) It wasn't too bad, since I had the ability to sleep on the bus. (and in senior year, the unforunate tendancy to do so in case)

The high school I went to is a magnet one also, with alot of AP courses and two college math courses offered, which I took advantage of. In recent years, the IB curriculum has been gaining momentum, which my sister was a part of until a few weeks ago. (According to her, it felt kind of useless compared to the number of AP courses, the TOK portion seemed to consist mostly of people that didn't know what they were talking about, and seem a bit oddly managed in general.)

[Exonerate]

I'm in Florida (40th)....this state didn't wasn't always full of dumbasses who'd rather be delinquents and fuckwads who shoot out streetsigns...Damn, when I went to school in florida, we seemed to be on the cutting edge. there were nice classrooms, several Apple IIE's in every classroom...*sigh* we've really gone downhill.....

Not my school!

Only six years old, highest standardized scores in the state, IIRC, the IB Diploma Programme tied for best in North America with one other school....14th best school in the nation according to Newsweek.

If we're going to play the "My school is better than your school." game, then...

http://www.abcusd.k12.ca.us/srcards/whitney.pdf

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

My old high school steadily increased the minimum standards for all grades as the years went by, either to combat grade inflation or force teachers and students to work harder or both. When I got in, 64 was a passing grade and a 93 was an A-. By the time my sister graduated three years after me, a 70 was the lowest passing grade, and an A- was a 95.

Aren't they higher in Military Academies and the like? I know someone who goes to one, and IIRC, an A is a 96 or above.

[Illuminatus Primus]

http://www.abcusd.k12.ca.us/srcards/whitney.pdf

The IB is internationally recognized, and we don't have a vast majority Asian bergoise student body.

[Wicked Pilot]

Aren't they higher in Military Academies and the like? I know someone who goes to one, and IIRC, an A is a 96 or above.

Here at UPT, minimum passing is 85% for most test, and 100% for a few special ones.

[Darth Wong]

The IB is internationally recognized, and we don't have a vast majority Asian bergoise student body.

Innerbrat is internationally recognized?