WTF? Don't try and help anyone, now...

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2003-10-09 09:47pm

Teenager In Trouble In Inhaler Incident
Wed Oct 8, 6:55 PM ET

A teenager was disciplined for sharing medication used to treat asthma, but he said it saved his girlfriend's life, News2Houston reported Wednesday.

Andra Ferguson and her boyfriend, Brandon Kivi, both 15, use the same type of asthma medicine, Albuterol Inhalation Aerosol.

Ferguson said she forgot to bring her medication to their school, Caney Creek High School, on Sept. 24. When she had trouble breathing, she went to the nurse's office.

Out of concern, Kivi let her use his inhaler.

"I was trying to save her life. I didn't want her to die on me right there because the nurse's office (doesn't) have breathing machines," Kivi said.

"It made a big difference. It did save my life. It was a Good Samaritan act," Ferguson said.

But the school nurse said it was a violation of the district's no-tolerance drug policy, and reported Kivi to the campus police.

The next day, he was arrested and accused of delivering a dangerous drug. Kivi was also suspended from school for three days. He could face expulsion and sent to juvenile detention on juvenile drug charges.

The mothers of both teenagers are angry.

"My son will not go to jail. This is ridiculous," said Theresa Hock, Kivi's mother. "I believe he shouldn't be punished at all because he was helping her. She was in distress."

"If he hadn't helped her, she would have passed out or died or something because her asthma's been really bad this year," said Sandra Ferguson, Andra's mother.

The school principal said he couldn't do anything about it since Kivi not only broke school rules, but also allegedly violated state law.

"It's simply a matter that it's classified as a dangerous drug. It's an inhaler form, but yet, if it had been in pill form or any other, it's still classified as a dangerous drug," said Greg Poole, the Caney Creek principal.

"Would Caney Creek had want Andra to have died rather than my son to help her?" Hock said.

Poole said the nurse never considered Andra to be in a life-threatening situation.

The school district will hold a hearing on the matter Friday.

Now, I could see them getting upset if he did this for shits & giggles, or if he didn't know what he was doing, but FUCK! How stupid are these people? People should learn to use their fucking judgement on these things.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-09 09:52pm

Uhm.. how is albuterol a dangerous drug, esp. to those that are prescribed it..?

~ver

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-09 10:02pm

Next week on THE REAL DRUG WAR: Watch the Gallant BATF defend our virtuous Republic by shooting down vicious Inhaler users just as they try to corrupt our youth by demonstrating their hideous addiction weapon!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-10-09 10:03pm

Abuse of zero-policy rule indeed...

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2003-10-09 10:05pm

Zero-tolerance policy: the biggest God-damned farce in history. Right on up there with the "Homeland Security" office and the "Patriot" acts.

Bertie Wooster · Post by **Bertie Wooster** » 2003-10-09 10:13pm

Albuterol is not a dangerous inhaler at all, and is the most common inhaler to deal with asthma symptoms (tightness in chest, shortness of breath, difficulty inhaling and exhaling) If someone didn't have asthma, and they took 10 inhalations of it (2 is the norm), no adverse reaction would happen to them, except there heart may beat a little bit faster, but no more than if they drank a few sips of coffee.

I have a mild case of asthma, and carry my albuterol with me at all times, but if I don't have it and get an allergic reaction and start to get breathing problems, my life can get real unpleasant very quickly.

On two geology fieldtrips last spring, a girl who had asthma started to get asthmatic sypmtoms but didn't have her albuterol, so I gave her mine on both occasions. The professor knew both times I was doing so. I find it disgusting that helping someone out like that could land me in jail.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-10-09 10:33pm

Uh huh. An asthmatic is now fucked because he helped someone else out. I hope this causes a huge uproar to change the Zero-Tolerance policy, this isn't the first time anything like this has happened, either. Oh, and, according to polls, aren't something along the lines of 66 percent of the populace indifferent/accepting of the decriminalization of marijuana?

Yes, I know that was random

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-09 10:36pm

Another great victory in the War on Drugs.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-10-09 10:43pm

Until some kids start dying and a nice large lawsuit is filed, I doubt anything's gonna change. Let's face it, about the only thing politicians & lawmakers understand is lawsuits.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-10-09 10:46pm

aerius wrote:Until some kids start dying and a nice large lawsuit is filed, I doubt anything's gonna change. Let's face it, about the only thing politicians & lawmakers understand is lawsuits.

And whatever their PR people tell them.

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-10-09 10:47pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Next week on THE REAL DRUG WAR: Watch the Gallant BATF defend our virtuous Republic by shooting down vicious Inhaler users just as they try to corrupt our youth by demonstrating their hideous addiction weapon!

Sad but true

And I bet you that if he did not do what he did to save that gal's life he would have been charged with niglagnce causing death

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-10-09 11:24pm

*ANGER RISING* *KILL* TERMINATE* *DESTROY* Danger Will Robinson, Danger Will Robinson! Ass kicking inbound.

stupid nurse

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-10-09 11:44pm

aerius wrote:Until some kids start dying and a nice large lawsuit is filed, I doubt anything's gonna change.

A couple of dead kids and lawsuits isn't going to change anything. There almost have to be several dozen dead people in several states roughly in the same time period and the following lawsuits to grab and hold the public's and politican's attention.

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2003-10-09 11:50pm

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm giving them a call.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2003-10-10 02:24am

Rubberanvil wrote:
aerius wrote:Until some kids start dying and a nice large lawsuit is filed, I doubt anything's gonna change.
A couple of dead kids and lawsuits isn't going to change anything. There almost have to be several dozen dead people in several states roughly in the same time period and the following lawsuits to grab and hold the public's and politican's attention.

Welcome to the government of the United States, where "We the people" really means the politicians.

otter · Post by **otter** » 2003-10-10 02:40am

They need to change "zero tolerance" to "common sense"

Geesh

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-10 03:07am

Stunning. Simply stunning.

When was it decided that the law is above a innocent life in danger?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-10-10 03:44am

Darth Wong wrote:Another great victory in the War on Drugs.

Hardly.
Has this offender been Tried and Sentenced?
Has this offender served any time in a corporate sponsored work camp or "Boot Camp"?
Much less a non-profit state or Federal prison?
You have a very troubling idea on what constitutes a victory, Lord Wong.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-10-10 08:46am

There is a very fine line between zero tolerance and FUCKING STUPID.
Zero tolerance= You have marjiuana. you're gone. Crack? Gone.
FUCKING STUPID= Gawd, I have a headache. I left my motrin at home. can I get one of yours? Why yes you can! **Agents bust in "GET ON THE GROUND, PUSHER SCUM!!"**

MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-10-10 09:09am

whats in the asthma inhaler that is considered a dangerous drug?

another thing, if she has an in haler herself, surely that means that she can use his... surely...?

its not like she doesn't use her own everyday anyway...

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-10-10 09:47am

That's so dumb. There's not much else you can say about it, it's fucking stupid!

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-10-10 10:04am

That's fucking retarded, to an extreme. This level of retarded is so extreme that it has its own crust, mantle, and core. Truely planet of the retarded.

This makes me wonder what the fuck is going on in America these days, and stuff like this makes me actually overlook some of the UK's flaws.

Edit: Some serious spell-check refinement.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-10-10 10:05am

Zero Tolerance is simply the Lazy Coward's way out since the government fucktards aren't required to think. Thinking requires Work. Unfortunately the Guvmint assholes want the privileges power brings but not the responsibility it brings, so they don't want to expend energy on working and thinking. If we wanted to be ruled by unthinking, unfeeling fuckheads, we woulda hardwired our fucking brains to be controlled by computers and machines. Borg, anyone?

Yes another reason the War on Drugs is nothing but a war on people!

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-10-10 10:30am

Darth Wong wrote:Another great victory in the War on Drugs.

And next week we'll get those aspirin bastards!!!

Damn...and when you think people can get any fucking dumber. Seriously one interprets the law...and looky take the extreme because you have to appear tough.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-10 11:23am

This is as bad as the infamous Chicken Nugget zero-tolerance case...