How many died in Afghanistan?

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2003-10-11 10:36pm

I like names that really reflect the nature of the operation. "Operation Holy Shit, That's A Lot Of Explosives" would be the ideal name just about any large-scale military operation.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-10-12 12:09am

Does anyone know how many Americans have died in Afghanistan since OEF started? All my sources tend to repeat the same thing: The DoD isn't saying.

The numbers on Iraq seem to come mostly from anti-war sites (again, DoD won't say), with the highest I've seen being a total of 322 killed, with 184 of those coming after the "end of major combat operations," with nearly 2000 wounded. The website used the NY Times, Washington Post, and defenselink.mil to get the names of post-5/1 deaths, and the numbers of pre-5/1 deaths. The Associated Press has estimated at least 3,200 civilians deaths in Baghdad alone, while an independent panel of researchers had estimated the nationwide civilian body count on June 13, 2003 at 5,000 to 10,000.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-12 12:28am

Gil Hamilton wrote:Personally, I think it should have been "Operation Clawhammer to Face" myself, but that's just me.

Operation Enemy Blood Bath would be even more accurate though.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-12 12:34am

The Dark wrote:The Associated Press has estimated at least 3,200 civilians deaths in Baghdad alone, while an independent panel of researchers had estimated the nationwide civilian body count on June 13, 2003 at 5,000 to 10,000.

I'm amused that the Associated Press thinks it can do a better job of estimating Iraqi civilian dead then the local Baghdad hospitals, who gave a number that was rather lower then 3,200, around 1,000 as I recall.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-12 12:38am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
I'm amused that the Associated Press thinks it can do a better job of estimating Iraqi civilian dead then the local Baghdad hospitals, who gave a number that was rather lower then 3,200, around 1,000 as I recall.

Not every Iraqi civilian died in Baghdad dude.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-12 01:32am

Vympel wrote: Not every Iraqi civilian died in Baghdad dude.

Yes, but Sea Skimmer was specifically referring to the AP body count for Baghdad, and not the body count for the whole country.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-12 01:38am

Vympel wrote:
Not every Iraqi civilian died in Baghdad dude.

Which is why it helps if you read what I quoted.

The Associated Press has estimated at least 3,200 civilians deaths in Baghdad alone"

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-12 01:44am

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-12 02:43am

Sea Skimmer wrote:Operation Enemy Blood Bath would be even more accurate though.

I got it! "Operation Bloodbath and Beyond".

CelesKnight · Post by **CelesKnight** » 2003-10-12 03:30am

HemlockGrey wrote:Personally, I think 'Operation Enduring Freedom' was scraping the bottom of the barrel, and 'Iraqi Freedom' just sucked. Whatever happened the likes of 'Desert Storm' and 'Desert Saber'?

Operation Infinitive Justice was considered too offensive, anything with a word too close to Dessert threatened to take Americans off of their diets, and Operation Bend Over Dickless 'Cause You're About to Take a Tomahawk up the Hersey Highway 'Til it Reaches Your Beard and Diggin' That Fricken Circular Trench Around Kabul Only Makes it Look More Inviting was already taken.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-10-12 03:40am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Operation Enemy Blood Bath would be even more accurate though.
I got it! "Operation Bloodbath and Beyond".

Or "Operation: Blood Fire Death!!"

Seriously - even I can't believe that somebody can get a number of 280.000 dead civilians unless they've made a gross miscalculation. (The people who got to this number probably meant 28.000, and some typo led to the 280.000 figure)

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-12 03:46am

Simon H.Johansen wrote: Or "Operation: Blood Fire Death!!"

Well, "Bloodbath and Beyond" is only really funny if you are familiar with America home furnishing stores...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-12 03:51am

Casualties to June 2002 in Afghanistan were 35 allied. Afghani Casualty tally. I do not have data available for July 2002 - Present.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-12 03:01pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:
What exactly was "Enduring Freedom"??
That was the title given to the operation in Afghanistan after it became clear that "Infinite Justice" was insanely stupid.
So "Infinite Justice" was renamed "Enduring Freedom"? They weren't two different operations?

Same op, different name, as far as I'm aware. It was the name "Infinite Justice" that was stupid.