Sock Puppets

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-12 05:21pm

I tried to start a sock puppet account now, and I noticed two things:

If you are visually impaired or cannot otherwise read this code please contact the Administrator for help.

Okay... and now for my question.

My only e-mail account is this hotmail one: yt300000@hotmail.com
My dad won't let me use his to create a sock puppet. Would I be allowed to set up a sock puppet account without paying up, since I'm already a member?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-12 05:26pm

....Er.... isn't the making of sockpuppet accounts... frowned upon?

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-10-12 05:32pm

The only sock puppet I remember seeing around here was RayCav.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-12 06:05pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:....Er.... isn't the making of sockpuppet accounts... frowned upon?

Board FAQ wrote:Q: What is a sock puppet? What's the policy on them?

A: It's a secondary account of some one already registered that's hidden from the general user poplutation. Secondary accounts, both hidden and open, are permitted. But abusing this is good way to go yourself banned, see Demios Anomaly (Here) for proof. And remember, the mods know. We always know.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-12 06:06pm

Demiurge wrote:The only sock puppet I remember seeing around here was RayCav.

Ice, Frito Lay, and Guardian 2000 come to mind.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-10-12 06:13pm

Damn, forgot about those old socks.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-10-12 06:16pm

fgalkin and stormbringer also have sock puppets for using public computers...

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-12 06:24pm

Many mods have sockpuppets, mainly for security reasons or board related matters. Normal users can in principle have one, but it ought to be identified correctly has a sockpuppet and you'll be walking on thin ice. Any attempt to spam/troll/whatever with the sockpuppet means instant death.

And if you can't get yourself a second mail account, then you'll do better in forgetting the idea.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-12 06:27pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:Many mods have sockpuppets, mainly for security reasons or board related matters. Normal users can in principle have one, but it ought to be identified correctly has a sockpuppet and you'll be walking on thin ice. Any attempt to spam/troll/whatever with the sockpuppet means instant death.

And if you can't get yourself a second mail account, then you'll do better in forgetting the idea.

So I should put "YT300000's sock puppet" in the puppet's sig?

*goes back to manipulate dad into letting me use his e-mail*

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-12 06:29pm

YT300000 wrote: So I should put "YT300000's sock puppet" in the puppet's sig?

Yes, if you really want to create one.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-10-12 06:47pm

I frankly think they ought to be forbidden for all but mods, and that mod sockpuppets should be named "Colonel Orlik 2" or "fgalkin 2" or something, but thats just me.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-12 06:53pm

Howedar wrote:I frankly think they ought to be forbidden for all but mods, and that mod sockpuppets should be named "Colonel Olrik 2" or "fgalkin 2" or something, but thats just me.

Sometimes the mods do need secret sockpuppets (for example, it's very easy to lock my Olrik account. It's just a matter of feeding the wrong password in 15 minutes intervals). If the reason to have the account is safe/easy access at public places, then I fully agree with you that they must be properly identified (and they are).

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-10-13 12:44am

Didn't some mods use sockpuppets to impersonate rabid Trekkies a while back?

And didn't Demios have over a dozen sock puppets, literally? I can think of Manji, Acclamator, Long Wang, Gunner, Bastard, and Jean Paul off of the top of my head, but he probably had more.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-13 01:25am

YT300000 wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:Many mods have sockpuppets, mainly for security reasons or board related matters. Normal users can in principle have one, but it ought to be identified correctly has a sockpuppet and you'll be walking on thin ice. Any attempt to spam/troll/whatever with the sockpuppet means instant death.

And if you can't get yourself a second mail account, then you'll do better in forgetting the idea.
So I should put "YT300000's sock puppet" in the puppet's sig?

*goes back to manipulate dad into letting me use his e-mail*

I suppose one could go to those f*ckmicrosoft.com sites or other hate sites, which give you a vanity email address which forwards to your real one. I don't know if Wong frowns upon this... I suppose you could bribe him.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-10-13 01:27am

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Didn't some mods use sockpuppets to impersonate rabid Trekkies a while back?

And didn't Demios have over a dozen sock puppets, literally? I can think of Manji, Acclamator, Long Wang, Gunner, Bastard, and Jean Paul off of the top of my head, but he probably had more.

yes, and he got banned for it.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-13 02:19pm

On second thought, screw the sock puppet idea.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-10-14 04:27am

YT300000 wrote:On second thought, screw the sock puppet idea.

Good idea, because normal users probably won't get a sockpuppet without a damn good reason. I myself have two sockpuppets. All for damn good reasons, as you all can probably guess.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-10-14 05:25am

Dalton wrote: I myself have two sockpuppets. All for damn good reasons, as you all can probably guess.

It's because you touch yourself at night.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-10-14 08:40am

Sockpuppet porn...who woulda guessed?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-10-14 12:55pm

Many mods have sockpuppets, mainly for security reasons or board related matters. Normal users can in principle have one, but it ought to be identified correctly has a sockpuppet and you'll be walking on thin ice. Any attempt to spam/troll/whatever with the sockpuppet means instant death.

Since IP addresses can be traced a sockpuppet would not stay hidden for long. Of course if someone intended to play outside the rules there are other more malicious ways. Stardestroyer.net does have it's share of security flaws...

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-14 05:19pm

evilcat4000 wrote:
Many mods have sockpuppets, mainly for security reasons or board related matters. Normal users can in principle have one, but it ought to be identified correctly has a sockpuppet and you'll be walking on thin ice. Any attempt to spam/troll/whatever with the sockpuppet means instant death.
Since IP addresses can be traced a sockpuppet would not stay hidden for long. Of course if someone intended to play outside the rules there are other more malicious ways. Stardestroyer.net does have it's share of security flaws...

Emphesis mine

Is that a threat junior? We've fought off many a troll and we've got better security than most boards.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-10-14 08:52pm

Dalton wrote:Good idea, because normal users probably won't get a sockpuppet without a damn good reason. I myself have two sockpuppets. All for damn good reasons, as you all can probably guess.

Yes, yes, of course you do... Because you're the Big Cool Badass Supermod and you say so.

But, seriously, if they're the two I remember, they are for a good purpose... But what do you care of my opinion? (You will, when I finally pay Mike $1,000,000 and become an Admin...

)

And we all know the story of my "sockpuppet that's not really a sockpuppet" account.

And if you don't, shame on you.

But here's a question: y'all (Mods/Supermods/Admins, IOW, those that actually matter

) don't mind if I bring him out for stuff like April 1st and/or SDNet's Bday (assuming it goes on like last time) do you?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-10-14 09:20pm

Eh, I believe the real problem with most sock puppets is because the person has a ulterior motive of no good.

Rogue's as well a couple others don't have a sock puppet as much as a left over account.

A few others use there for other duties or better yet for public computers.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-10-14 09:22pm

Buh?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-10-14 09:28pm

Lord Pounder wrote:
Emphesis mine

Is that a threat junior? We've fought off many a troll and we've got better security than most boards.

Nah, it's a fairly common php bb style though, there's bound to be scripts that take advantage of it. And we did get boned bad when TK losers hijacked phong's account too, remember?