Bloody hell Phelps

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-10-12 10:05pm

OH man, what a retard:

from here

Phelps To Erect Matthew Shepard Monument

(Casper, Wyoming) Anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps has announced intentions to erect a monument to Matthew Shepard the gay college student brutally murdered five years ago near Laramie.

But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."

The monument would be erected in downtown Casper, Shepard's home town.

Phelps has sent details of the monument to the city of Casper city council and there may be nothing the city can do to prevent it.

Phelps said he intends to put up the monument in City Park, already the location of a controversial statue of the Ten Commandments.

The Ten Commandments statue was donated to the city by the Fraternal Order of the Eagles in 1965.

After a court battle over a similar monument in the city of Ogden, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that any city that displays a Ten Commandments monument on public property must also allow monuments espousing the views of other religions or political groups on that same property.

Phelps told Casper council in his letter that if it attempts to prevent him from erecting the homophobic monument he's prepared to go to court.

"That is exactly what I said would happen," said Councilwoman Barb Watters. She said she warned the city when it accepted the Ten Commandments statue that the city risked other monuments advocating anti-Semitism and hatred of other minorities.

''I think the hate language will find a very cold reception in this community,'' councilor Paul Bertoglio said. ''I think this community's backbone is going to come up and say 'We are not going to accept it.'''

The city council is looking at several options, one is fighting Phelps in court, another is moving the Ten Commandments out of the park, and yet another proposal would be to sell the land the park is on.

Phelps says he doesn't care what the city decides. If he is unable to put the statue in City Park he said he will find another location in the city.

During Shepard's funeral members of Phelps' Westoboro Baptist Church demonstrated in front of the chapel.

And i bet the fucker would wear mixed fabrics when he opened it, if he gets the chance.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-10-12 10:12pm

Some people take everything we know about taste and decency, respect for your fellow human being, morality and make it into something good and admirable.

Some people are foul, offensive, prejudiced twats.

I'll give you one guess where this guy fits... I hate people like this.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-10-12 10:13pm

How would a Marilyn Manson/Kottonmouth Kings/Corporate Avenger/Cradle of Filth metal concert next to WBC sound? I know it's gonna be LOUD for sure. Maybe it'll be good enough to get on the news and break KMK and CA into the mainstream...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-12 10:19pm

Good, another excuse for me to make explosives, as if I need one. Plus however he gathers funds for this will provide a nice "fucking idiot" list.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-10-12 10:26pm

So, is there anything stopping us going over there with a big statue of this man, and putting up a dedication saying "Fred Phelps - In our opinion, possibily the foulest and most offensive creature ever to be spawned by human kind. And we use that term loosely..."

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-10-12 10:29pm

Phelps goes for shock value for shock value's sake. I doubt that when it comes right down to it that he really feels as strongly as he'd have everyone believe. It's 99% self "promotion", 1% actual outrage on his part.

He just tries to top himself in order to garner more attention, he is the RL equivalent of a troll, stop giving him attention, and he'll wither and die.

Casper has every cause to fight this as vehemently as they see fit, and they should, but they're playing right into this oaf's hands.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-10-12 10:36pm

A one-ton granite monument costs $2600.

A kilo and a half of C4 costs thirty-five bucks.

You do the math.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-12 10:36pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Casper has every cause to fight this as vehemently as they see fit, and they should, but they're playing right into this oaf's hands.

They don't have a choice, because having a monument to homophobia like that in their downtown is roughly the equivlant to having the blown-up remnants of a Buddhist statue in your city celebrating the triumph of the Taleban. But they did set themselves up for it by trying to protect that monument to the Ten Commandments and getting such a favourable ruling. Now they will have to, logically, clench their rather-less-fundy guts and take it down.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-10-12 11:14pm

If we don't count the tramautic impact this will have on Sheppard's family and friends, this may be a good thing. If and when the city council tells Phelps to fuck off, they will also have to remove the Ten Commandments. If for some disgusting reason they let this thing go up, then it will be next to the Ten Commandments, showing the true face of Christianity for all to see.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-12 11:34pm

I fully support killing Phelps.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-12 11:42pm

If they allow the use of public lands for promotion of religious beliefs, this sort of thing is inevitable sooner or later. They should allow him to build his piece of shit statue and then they can put up a third statue exhorting parents to murder their children if they swear. Might as well come clean about their fine upstanding beliefs, so people can see what hateful little shits they all are. Then someone can strap explosives to all three monuments, the members of City Council who voted for it, and Phelps for the final erasure.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-12 11:45pm

Darth Wong wrote:If they allow the use of public lands for promotion of religious beliefs, this sort of thing is inevitable sooner or later. They should allow him to build his piece of shit statue and then they can put up a third statue exhorting parents to murder their children if they swear. Might as well come clean about their fine upstanding beliefs, so people can see what hateful little shits they all are. Then someone can strap explosives to all three monuments, the members of City Council who voted for it, and Phelps for the final erasure.

DAMN RIGHT. I'd be pushing one of the ignition buttons. >|

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-10-13 12:08am

It's amazing what bigotry can spawn from one Bible verse. What's next, godhateskidsthatswearattheirparents.com? godhatespeoplethatwearcottonandplyesterblends.com?

MarkIX · Post by **MarkIX** » 2003-10-13 05:33am

Then someone can strap explosives to all three monuments, the members of City Council who voted for it, and Phelps for the final erasure.

I fully support killing Phelps.

Don't go there thats what started this in the first place.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-10-13 06:43am

I support a memorial monument to all the innocents killed and massacured during crusades and inquistions.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-10-13 07:29am

As I've mentioned before, I am totally and completely Jaded about humankind....Why on earth would anyone even SAY anything like that?! let alone do it?! WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING TERRIBLE TO EACH OTHER FOR CHRIST'S SAKE?! Stuff like this makes me want to cry... WHYWHYWHY What is the point of jabbing people like this? Does it make him feel better about himself perhaps? Ugh...I don't even know how to begin to rant about this.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-10-13 07:47am

Who'd contribute to a fund for getting a monument with the Nine Satanic Statements?

If you need a reminder:

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-13 11:23am

Wicked Pilot wrote:If we don't count the tramautic impact this will have on Sheppard's family and friends, this may be a good thing. If and when the city council tells Phelps to fuck off, they will also have to remove the Ten Commandments. If for some disgusting reason they let this thing go up, then it will be next to the Ten Commandments, showing the true face of Christianity for all to see.

You know good and well that this bastard isn't the 'true face of Christianity.'

I find a stereotype like that as bigoted as Phelps himself.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-10-13 11:31am

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

does this make me a satanist?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-10-13 11:32am

Zac Naloen wrote:
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

does this make me a satanist?

It makes you a default human.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-10-13 11:34am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Zac Naloen wrote:
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

does this make me a satanist?
It makes you a default human.

oh good, i thought that it was something bad

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-10-13 11:55am

Zac Naloen wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Zac Naloen wrote:
does this make me a satanist?
It makes you a default human.

oh good, i thought that it was something bad

It is. I see you being punished in the future. I see you being bound and whipped by a vicious dominatrix, and you love every minute of it, you lucky bastard.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-13 12:26pm

Nathan F wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:If we don't count the tramautic impact this will have on Sheppard's family and friends, this may be a good thing. If and when the city council tells Phelps to fuck off, they will also have to remove the Ten Commandments. If for some disgusting reason they let this thing go up, then it will be next to the Ten Commandments, showing the true face of Christianity for all to see.

You know good and well that this bastard isn't the 'true face of Christianity.'

I find a stereotype like that as bigoted as Phelps himself.

How is it bigoted to point out that all Christians regard the Bible to be a holy thing, yet the Bible contains the homophobic hatred of Exodus, Leviticus, and Corinthians?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-10-13 12:47pm

Nathan F wrote:You know good and well that this bastard isn't the 'true face of Christianity.'

I find a stereotype like that as bigoted as Phelps himself.

You're barking up the wrong tree there buddy; I didn't write the Bible. You need to take this up with it's author.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-10-13 03:41pm

The fact that the three churches and the Eagles club is willing to take back that monument is enough to make me think that in the end the evil that is phelps can be neutralized.