German man charged with teaching dog Hitler salute

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-10-14 03:45pm

German man is to appear in court charged with teaching his dog to give the Hitler salute.

The black sheepdog-mix, named Adolf, has been taught to lift his right front paw up straight in the salute on command.

Police were called to the scene in Berlin when Roland T, 54, shouted at passers-by last year.

When a patrol arrived, he allegedly showed them the trick he had taught his dog, gave the salute along with Adolf, and shouted: "Sieg Heil."

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_82 ... theadlines

Damm and it wasn't even a German Shepherd

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-10-14 03:54pm

As much as three years in prison for teaching a dog a nazi salute?!

[Obelix]These Germans are grazy![/Obelix]

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-14 03:57pm

:wtf::?: What. The fuck. Prison time for that? I mean.. don't get me wrong, this guy's got a few screws loose, apparently, but damn...

~ver

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-10-14 04:24pm

Why would somebody teach a dog the Nazi salute in the first place?

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-10-14 04:32pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Why would somebody teach a dog the Nazi salute in the first place?

How does a dog do a Nazi salute? I don't think they can extend their front legs straight out.

....

I wonder if it's illegal to have a Hitler mustach, too.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-10-14 04:54pm

It is my understanding that the German constitution outlaws the Nazi party. That brings me with two questions for the various Germans we have here on SD.net;

1. Does this prohibition really exist in the constitution, and to what extent of association does it cover?

2. In your personal opinion as a German, do you think that this prohibition of a particular political party is a good and/or necessary law?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-14 04:55pm

The dog was put to sleep.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-10-14 05:30pm

How do they know it was a Nazi salute? It has a paw, not a hand.

Heck, it was a black sheepdog. He could've been symbolizing Black Power.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-14 05:56pm

The Germans....still as crazy as they were sixty-some-odd years ago.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-10-14 06:12pm

Durran Korr wrote:The dog was put to sleep.

It was?!

Jesus, the poor dog didn't even do anything wrong...

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-10-14 06:14pm

Durran Korr wrote:The dog was put to sleep.

That's as bad as putting a dog to sleep for being trained to sit or fetch! It's fucked up in so many ways!

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-14 06:17pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:The dog was put to sleep.
It was?!

Jesus, the poor dog didn't even do anything wrong...

The article wrote:Adolf will probably be brought to a pet shelter, the Berliner Kurier reports.

Carola Ruff, of the local animal protection organisation, says the dog shouldn't be judged for what its owner taught it.

"It makes me sick to think someone's using his dog as an instrument of his deranged brain," she told the paper.

Durran?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-14 07:10pm

Meh, don't trust what you hear on the radio till you verify it.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-14 07:20pm

Dogs can'y even do the Hitler salute because they can't hold their front paws fully extended in front of their body for any length of time unless their feet are resting on something, but that's besides the point. How does teaching your dog to do a stupid tasteless trick warrant 3 years in the can?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-14 07:20pm

Unless the dog was trained to attack Jews or something, there really isn't a reason to kill it.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-14 07:24pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Dogs can'y even do the Hitler salute because they can't hold their front paws fully extended in front of their body for any length of time unless their feet are resting on something, but that's besides the point. How does teaching your dog to do a stupid tasteless trick warrant 3 years in the can?

Germany takes its anti-Nazi laws very, very seriously. I think it's a violation of free speech, although I can certainly understand why things are the way they are.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-14 07:25pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:How does teaching your dog to do a stupid tasteless trick warrant 3 years in the can?

That was not the reason. He was arrested for disturbing the public order by shouting Sieg Heil to the people passing by, including the police, while his dog Adolf did the stupid trick. That means he's a Nazi lunatic. Nazis in Germany are arrested (and good riddance to them), but I agree that if he is as insane as he appears then he deserves an asilum, not the jail.

Unless the dog was trained to attack Jews or something, there really isn't a reason to kill it.

It won't be, read posts above.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-10-14 07:38pm

On the next stupid pet tricks a french poodle loose control of his bladder each time someone says Heil Hitler.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-14 07:40pm

Durran Korr wrote:Germany takes its anti-Nazi laws very, very seriously. I think it's a violation of free speech, although I can certainly understand why things are the way they are.

I guess I'm pampered to live in a land where people are completely free to be tasteless assholes. I understand why'd they be sensitive, but I'm just saying that three years is majorly excessive.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-10-14 07:40pm

The man deserves the nuthouse. Doubt he'll change his tune about nazism because of three years in the slammer.

As for the dog...good they didn't put it to sleep because of it's owners thoughts on politics and stupid trick he was taught.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-14 07:41pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:That was not the reason. He was arrested for disturbing the public order by shouting Sieg Heil to the people passing by, including the police, while his dog Adolf did the stupid trick. That means he's a Nazi lunatic. Nazis in Germany are arrested (and good riddance to them), but I agree that if he is as insane as he appears then he deserves an asilum, not the jail.

I'm not questioning that he was being a jackass and deserved to be carted off, but I don't think that what he did warrants three years in the slammer.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-14 07:44pm

Three years might be a bit too much, but some punishment is definitely deserved. If some asshole decided to burn a cross on his lawn across the street from a black family, he certainly would deserve punishment.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-14 07:46pm

Gil Hamilton wrote: I'm not questioning that he was being a jackass and deserved to be carted off, but I don't think that what he did warrants three years in the slammer.

The article, again, wrote:Now he has been charged with using symbols of unconstitutional organisations. If found guilty, he faces up to three years in prison.

It appears that three years is the maximum penalty for using symbols of unconstitutional organisations. He'll doubtless get less, if any, jail time.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-14 07:47pm

Durran Korr wrote:Three years might be a bit too much, but some punishment is definitely deserved. If some asshole decided to burn a cross on his lawn across the street from a black family, he certainly would deserve punishment.

Then we are in agreement.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-14 07:48pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
Unless the dog was trained to attack Jews or something, there really isn't a reason to kill it.
It won't be, read posts above.

I know. I'm just saying unless it was.

I know it won't be.