Feels good to be an ass sometimes

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-10-15 06:43pm

So which is the better option?

Carry out your revenge and feel good that you at least got your own back against someone you hated.

Or show you aren't like them and simply live it out and forget the arseholes you come across in life.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-15 06:46pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And good for you to condone acts of violence as revenge for inconvieniances and boredom experainced during childhood.

Getting beaten by a pastor is a bit more than an "inconvenience" to a young child.

Post by **Zaia** » 2003-10-15 06:46pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:So which is the better option?

Carry out your revenge and feel good that you at least got your own back against someone you hated.

Or show you aren't like them and simply live it out and forget the arseholes you come across in life.

I think one of them feels better in the short-term, and the other feels better in the long-term. Guess which is which.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-10-15 07:56pm

I think the first would feel better overall. At least it would for me.

EDIT: temporary insanity.

Arrow · Post by **Arrow** » 2003-10-15 08:18pm

So, Superman gets the shit beat out of him and has to grow up in a living hell and you folks have the balls to tell him to grow up, knowing that the folks that caused his pain won't be punished? That's bullshit. It may not be justice, and it probably won't change their behavior, but at least Super even the scales a little bit and gave the bastards a taste of what they dished out.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-10-15 08:51pm

I'm applauding the levels of humanity shown in this thread.

Rathark · Post by **Rathark** » 2003-10-15 09:01pm

Personally, I would have written a novel / short story / screenplay / stageplay about my experiences; preferably in a way that humorously belittled my former tormentors.

Sometimes, the best revenge is simply to hold up a mirror to your enemy.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-15 09:23pm

Arrow Mk84 wrote:So, Superman gets the shit beat out of him and has to grow up in a living hell and you folks have the balls to tell him to grow up, knowing that the folks that caused his pain won't be punished? That's bullshit. It may not be justice, and it probably won't change their behavior, but at least Super even the scales a little bit and gave the bastards a taste of what they dished out.

Personally, Superman's history is far from living hell in my opinion.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-15 09:29pm

Shinova wrote:Personally, Superman's history is far from living hell in my opinion.

I had no idea you were so familiar with the details of his childhood. Please, enlighten us as to how you obtained this kind of intimately personal knowledge about another board member.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-10-15 09:34pm

Superman, if you were beaten and treated that way, then I can't really blame you for what you did. I wouldn't have called the woman a dyke, personally, but I would have written something equally nasty.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-15 09:38pm

what's a dyke?

Meh, anyway, an email is not that fun. You should have gone there and have a little talk with all of them. A warm thank you for all the love they gave you. It's one of the funs of growing up, the bullies suddenly don't seem so frightning anymore.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-10-15 09:39pm

I think you did the right thing if it makes you satisfied.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-15 09:40pm

what's a dyke?

A somewhat derogatory term for lesbians in America. It's used to refer primarily to more masculine lesbians.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-10-15 09:41pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:Meh, anyway, an email is not that fun. You should have gone there and have a little talk with all of them. A warm thank you for all the love they gave you. It's one of the funs of growing up, the bullies suddenly don't seem so frightning anymore.

IMO, what you are suggesting should be the second step. Nothing can help more then to face them off.~Jason

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-10-15 09:42pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:what's a dyke?

dyke

n 1: a lesbian who is noticeably masculine [syn: butch]

As for what Superman did....relatively low key and honestly it's better to confront bullies face-to-face, because aside from that not much gets resolved persay.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-15 09:47pm

Let's keep in mind that when people do things like this, the purpose is not to make the world a better place; it is to obtain some sense of personal closure. A big, important act like confronting people is not necessary; even a small symbolic gesture like a rude E-mail may be all one needs. It's sort of like going back to visit your old high school and realizing what a small, unimportant place it really is. Helps to put your present life in perspective.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-10-15 09:55pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:what's a dyke?

A term for lesbian i heard somewhere it comes from swedish or dutch porn or something, because it's another name for a reservoir, with the lesbians putting their fingers in the dyke or something...yeah.

Anyway, proving you're better than someone by feeling superior because you haven't caused them harm is an empty feeling in my experience. I've always preferred getting revenge, to be honest.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-10-15 10:00pm

I say good on Superman, sometimes a little revenge is all we have left.

Arrow · Post by **Arrow** » 2003-10-15 10:09pm

Shinova wrote:
Arrow Mk84 wrote:So, Superman gets the shit beat out of him and has to grow up in a living hell and you folks have the balls to tell him to grow up, knowing that the folks that caused his pain won't be punished? That's bullshit. It may not be justice, and it probably won't change their behavior, but at least Super even the scales a little bit and gave the bastards a taste of what they dished out.
Personally, Superman's history is far from living hell in my opinion.

So, just what is your definition of a living hell? Getting your ass beat because you don't want to do something and being routinely targeted by an idiot isn't enough? Does he need to be staked down and left for the crows first?

I find it amazing that some folks here criticize Superman for doing some name calling in a nasty email when they've done the same thing for something far more petty.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2003-10-15 11:55pm

Durran Korr wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And good for you to condone acts of violence as revenge for inconvieniances and boredom experainced during childhood.
Getting beaten by a pastor is a bit more than an "inconvenience" to a young child.

But this was just abuse directed at woman who was no more than annoying to him. Or at least that's how I read what he said.

It was his father that beat him.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-10-16 02:10am

Shaidar Haran wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And good for you to condone acts of violence as revenge for inconvieniances and boredom experainced during childhood.
Getting beaten by a pastor is a bit more than an "inconvenience" to a young child.
But this was just abuse directed at woman who was no more than annoying to him. Or at least that's how I read what he said.

It was his father that beat him.

Yeah, but the woman was instigating it.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-10-16 02:22am

Arrow Mk84 wrote:So, Superman gets the shit beat out of him and has to grow up in a living hell and you folks have the balls to tell him to grow up, knowing that the folks that caused his pain won't be punished? That's bullshit. It may not be justice, and it probably won't change their behavior, but at least Super even the scales a little bit and gave the bastards a taste of what they dished out.

Please, having a temper tantrum and being proud of his execution of said temper tantrum is hardly terms for people to congradulate him. If his father abused him and he made a post saying that he confronted him on it.... Good. Or reported it to the authorities....Good.

If he wrote a scathing letter to the Bishop (or whatever church official) detailing his abuse in one of their churchs....Good

If he sent said letter to the OP/Ed section of the local paper...Good.

To have a little tizzy fit and expect people to see it as some mature response to abuse or inconvienence....

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2003-10-16 02:47am

Knife wrote:To have a little tizzy fit and expect people to see it as some mature response to abuse or inconvienence....

IMHO, Actually, it is. The ability to put away a major unpleasant event behind you all by yourself and without seriously harming people is by itself a form of maturity. Certainly not everyone is up to it.

And I doubt he wrote this to make himself look more mature. Rather, he had finally solved a little problem with his life his own way. And because this is the board where people discuss everything down to cutting their penises on a slice of bread (not all boards are that open,) he decided to share that happy news - only to be cut down by people who seem to think that he should turn the other cheek.

IMHO, there are limits to "turn-the-other-cheek." It must be purely voluntary - not merely a choke down in the name of maturity and PC. Since the severity of the wrong is clearly too great for Superman to easily forgive without repercussion, I feel he should not be asked to choke it down, especially when it turned out that his idea of relieving the pressure (thus allowing him to close the event) is something so minor and harmless.

I congratulate Superman for getting past a phase of his life and genuinely hope his next would be better.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-16 03:06am

I think that what a lot of people forget about that "turn the other cheek" bullshit is that while it may be a laudable thing to do, it is not a moral obligation. If somebody punches you in the nose, the noble thing to do is to walk away with your head held high, but if you punch him right back, it would take quite the self-righteous ass to sniff that you're a bad person for doing so.

In this case, the retort was far more mild than the original insult. This is like being punched in the face with somebody cheering the bully on and then insulting the person who cheered. As I said, this thread presented a lot of people with an opportunity to show how righteous they are, and they leapt right on it.

There's quite an irony in people being so judgemental and even (in some cases) downright insulting about such a harmless act as a nasty E-mail.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-10-16 03:13am

So long as the actions taken as revenge don't seriously break the law (or break it at all for that matter), say, going around to your former tormentors and beating them to within an inch of your life, or even worse killing them, then I suppose that little bit of satisfaction helps.

But, if the matter is not so much a life changing event, say, high school bullies who just called you a load of names, then just let it go and get on with life, that's usually the best.

It's a case-by-case assessment, can't really judge all reactions the same way.