Kill Bill (possbile spoilers)

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-10-14 04:38pm

I saw it on Friday, and then again on Saturday, and it keeps getting better.

Kill Bill is an insanely better homage to Spaghetti Western than Once Upon a Time in Mexico was, even though I liked that movie a lot.

The perfect blending of of Blood Opera and Blaxploitation action with Leone-esque style and music (notably the use of Zamfir, and the songs by Santa Esmeralda, Nancy Sinatra, and Louis Bacalov) combined to create the best action movie of all time.
This movie was everything I've always wanted in an action movie.

It also helps prove my theory that if you make an action sequence with a western approach (Leone western more than Ford western), you make it right.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-10-14 09:07pm

Awww man, I was expecting more killings and blood, and more violence too. Then again I haven't seen so many hacked off limbs in a live action movie, and the fountains of blood were fun. Minor nitpicks, Uma Thurman (or her stunt double) could definitely have used more training with weapons & fighting. She looked rather slow & sloppy compared to the psycho schoolgirl & the guy with 2 swords that she was fighting on the balcony rails, but with the camera angles chosen you don't really notice this unless you're looking for it. Also, if you were in a coma for 4 years, you would not be able to sit up, let alone get out of bed to stab & bash the living shit out of 2 people, realistically you'd be more like Steven Seagal in "Hard to Kill" where he's barely able to lift a cane to push an elevator button. Other than that, fun fun fun!

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-10-14 10:29pm

aerius wrote:Awww man, I was expecting more killings and blood, and more violence too. Then again I haven't seen so many hacked off limbs in a live action movie, and the fountains of blood were fun. Minor nitpicks, Uma Thurman (or her stunt double) could definitely have used more training with weapons & fighting. She looked rather slow & sloppy compared to the psycho schoolgirl & the guy with 2 swords that she was fighting on the balcony rails, but with the camera angles chosen you don't really notice this unless you're looking for it. Also, if you were in a coma for 4 years, you would not be able to sit up, let alone get out of bed to stab & bash the living shit out of 2 people, realistically you'd be more like Steven Seagal in "Hard to Kill" where he's barely able to lift a cane to push an elevator button. Other than that, fun fun fun!

GUARDS, SEIZE HIM!

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-10-14 10:43pm

Yeah, how could she sit up and smash that guys head but not be able to walk? And that whole "I'm Buck, and I'm here to fuck" made me sick to my stomach. If I ever find anyone who ever did someting like that, they'd be beat to a quivering lump of bloody flesh. God, things like that anger me beyond all reason.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-14 11:53pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:Yeah, how could she sit up and smash that guys head but not be able to walk?

I'm pretty sure that the leg muscles are the ones that undergo... whatever the term is (damn, just now forgot it), where they stop working properly without some physical therepy or whatever.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-10-14 11:55pm

They atrophy with disuse.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-14 11:58pm

THAT'S the word! I knew it right until I was going to type it!

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-10-15 12:57am

Plus, she's Black Mamba, she's the fucking Bride, man...she'll sit up and kill people if she damn well feels like it. Such is the power of her will.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-10-15 08:46pm

aerius wrote:Awww man, I was expecting more killings and blood, and more violence too.

What the fuck?!?! She kills almost 100 people in one fucking scene.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-10-16 04:39pm

Obviously his standards were set by "Bloody" Sam Pechinpah, and Johnny Woo.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-10-16 04:44pm

TARANTINO IS THE SHIT

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-10-16 04:57pm

lol

The new Sluggy <Mew> includes a blatant refrence.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-10-16 05:09pm

I guess it wouldn't have worked if she was all atropheid, but Jesus Christ, it wasn't even near realistic.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-16 07:16pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:I guess it wouldn't have worked if she was all atropheid, but Jesus Christ, it wasn't even near realistic.

If you go to a movie expecting realism, then you're probably going to the IMAX to learn about volcanos.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-10-16 07:27pm

Hey thier AC blasted in hot gasses and sulfur at us in the theater...

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-10-16 08:59pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:I guess it wouldn't have worked if she was all atropheid, but Jesus Christ, it wasn't even near realistic.

God fucking damnit, she kills two people, steals one of them's keys and sits in his truck for 13 hours trying to walk again, and no one catches her, not to mention all the the over the top blood in the movie and your bitching about realism?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-10-16 11:50pm

zombie84 wrote:And BTW, did anyone else see the final Matrix Revolutions preview before the film? GOOD GOD!! The preview alone was easily worth the 13 bucks. Christ that film is going to be the best film of the decade. All the Reloaded naysayers are going to have their foot in their mouths come November.

? There's a new trailer than the theatrical one on the website?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-10-17 12:16am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
zombie84 wrote:And BTW, did anyone else see the final Matrix Revolutions preview before the film? GOOD GOD!! The preview alone was easily worth the 13 bucks. Christ that film is going to be the best film of the decade. All the Reloaded naysayers are going to have their foot in their mouths come November.
? There's a new trailer than the theatrical one on the website?

Yes. The one attached to Kill Bill is a little bit different than the one on the website.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2003-10-17 07:51pm

Why should we care about some trailer for some dumb CGI flick?

The Wachowskis, as I've maintained since the desire to run up walls faded from the first Matrix, can fuck off.

They absolutely could not, ever, concieve of a scene where somone ruthlessly dismembers a hundred fucking people, the the accompaniment of a whole tanker full of stage blood, and then make the entire fucking audience laugh at the end.

Tarantino just did.

Better story, better told.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-17 09:04pm

Vendetta wrote: They absolutely could not, ever, concieve of a scene where somone ruthlessly dismembers a hundred fucking people, the the accompaniment of a whole tanker full of stage blood, and then make the entire fucking audience laugh at the end.

Uh, actually, when I saw it, the entire audience did a collective "Nooo!" when the end credits started.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-10-17 09:05pm

Vendetta meant the spanking scene.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-10-18 02:05am

Incidentally, did Michael Madsen have any lines? I thought I heard that he had a few, but I don't even remember him appearing on screen for any length of time.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-10-18 03:28am

HemlockGrey wrote:Incidentally, did Michael Madsen have any lines? I thought I heard that he had a few, but I don't even remember him appearing on screen for any length of time.

He says, "That woman desires her revenge. And we deserve to die."

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-10-18 03:43am

Yeah, he seems willing to die, so is he going to give his life willingly to her?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-10-18 03:56am

FaxModem1 wrote:Yeah, he seems willing to die, so is he going to give his life willingly to her?

Hells naw. He's not willing to die, he just recognizes that he deserves to die. I expect him to put up a good fight...hopefully a gunfight.