Would you take the coin?

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-10-18 10:48pm

Who the fuck would bet their lives on 50/50 odds? Even a Russian Roulette player has better odds (83% chance of survival per attempt).

Agent R · Post by **Agent R** » 2003-10-18 11:13pm

Wow.....the ultimate "All-or-Nothing" decision.

Nonexistence is a very appealing concept to me, so give me the coin and watch my extraordinarily bad luck work it's magic!

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-10-18 11:22pm

AdmiralKanos wrote:Who the fuck would bet their lives on 50/50 odds? Even a Russian Roulette player has better odds (83% chance of survival per attempt).

Someone whose got about six people ahead of him to test the theory of it being a physical guarantee of landing heads up, of course.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-10-18 11:22pm

I would take it. But I've had an effect on other peoples lives that in many cases is for the better, without me a lot of people would not be the way they are today, I can't do that to them.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-10-19 07:25am

If I ceased to be, the universe would become a less pleasant place for the rest of you.

I don't take the coin. It's my duty to mankind.

Post by **haas mark** » 2003-10-19 07:27am

How would it affect things that you have done? Would they still have been done, but by someone else, or what?

~ver

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-10-19 11:41am

Money...fame...every wish fullfilled....do you realise how boring life would be? No thanks.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-10-19 12:26pm

Take coin.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-19 12:40pm

Every one of my dreams realised against my never existing? COnsidering how often i've considered that second option i'd say i had nothing to lose, in fact i'd be doing myself a dis-service not to try and realise my dreams.

However as my sister has pointed out the coin will backfire for you. Whats the point in realising your wants and desires if you get them not through hard work but luck. That method would only lead to being ungrateful and unhappy.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-19 12:53pm

I'm not consigning myself to oblivion on 50/50 odds! Fuck off!

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-10-19 01:53pm

I don't gamble because the universe is stacked against me. With my luck, I would flip tails five times in a row (assuming I didn't wink out of existence immediately).

So no, I won't take the coin. Fuck, I'm already better off than 99% of the world, why should I gamble that away?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-10-19 02:03pm

Both alternatives don't sound nice. On the one hand, I have life handed on a silver platter, what's the point in living then? On the other hand, I never exist.

But, and I can't use the term "there's a flipside to the coin", what if it landed on the edge?

Hmm?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-10-19 02:08pm

flip the coin, catch it in my palm, look at it and then either flip it on my wrist or leave as be if I want.

However I disagree with the Causality loop, if I flip the coin, it lands badly and I never existed then there was no one for the coin to be given to. However because it wasn't flipped doesn't change the past that I was never born, so I can't exist.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-10-19 03:00pm

Straha wrote: However I disagree with the Causality loop, if I flip the coin, it lands badly and I never existed then there was no one for the coin to be given to. However because it wasn't flipped doesn't change the past that I was never born, so I can't exist.

But you do exist, and because of that, you know that the coin cannot have landed on tails because you exist and the only viable outcome of the flip is to land on heads.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-10-19 03:07pm

Shadow WarChief wrote:
Straha wrote: However I disagree with the Causality loop, if I flip the coin, it lands badly and I never existed then there was no one for the coin to be given to. However because it wasn't flipped doesn't change the past that I was never born, so I can't exist.
But you do exist, and because of that, you know that the coin cannot have landed on tails because you exist and the only viable outcome of the flip is to land on heads.

But the coin hasn't flipped yet. And if the coin flipped, landed on tails and popped you out of existence you wouldn't have existed to think that you existed.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-10-19 03:45pm

Straha wrote:
But the coin hasn't flipped yet. And if the coin flipped, landed on tails and popped you out of existence you wouldn't have existed to think that you existed.

True, the coin hasn't flipped yet. But the fact that you exist shows that you won't flip tails.

If you flip tails, you never exist and you never get to flip the coin.

But you do get to flip the coin, meaning that you do exist, meaning that your entire existence has not been erased from the universe, meaning that you can't possibly flip tails

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-19 03:54pm

The thing I want is to live forever and see what the future brings. I would not take the coin.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-19 03:57pm

So does the coin master just give you the things you consiously want or the deep unconsious things as well? Because if it gives you the unconsious things i'd not take it, being an sometime self-abusing depressive i'd hate to see the things my sub-consious could cook up for me. Anyone ever read Red Dwarf 2 - Better Than Life?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-10-19 04:08pm

Shadow WarChief wrote:
Straha wrote:
But the coin hasn't flipped yet. And if the coin flipped, landed on tails and popped you out of existence you wouldn't have existed to think that you existed.

True, the coin hasn't flipped yet. But the fact that you exist shows that you won't flip tails.

If you flip tails, you never exist and you never get to flip the coin.

But you do get to flip the coin, meaning that you do exist, meaning that your entire existence has not been erased from the universe, meaning that you can't possibly flip tails

And you never existed, and because you never existed your existence couldn't be wiped out. But because you never existed you also can't come back, so you be gone!

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-10-19 05:15pm

But Mike, Russian Roulette doesn't have the biggest payoff ever attatched to it.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-10-19 06:01pm

darthdavid wrote:Going by sirnitrams logic hell yeah!!! If you lose it creates a causality loop till you win or don't take it. No way for anything bad to happen.

And this stirling argument conviced me to vote "yes". By that logic how can i lose?
Then i read the rest of the thread and am now not so sure.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-10-19 06:03pm

SirNitram wrote:
AdmiralKanos wrote:Who the fuck would bet their lives on 50/50 odds? Even a Russian Roulette player has better odds (83% chance of survival per attempt).
Someone whose got about six people ahead of him to test the theory of it being a physical guarantee of landing heads up, of course.

Well if they did land on tails and neverf existe, you would never know would you?

And what if it's a physical gurantee landing on tails causes Space-Time collapse and everyone to suffer a quick, but extremely painful, death?

Slayen · Post by **Slayen** » 2003-10-19 06:40pm

Tough choice. Would it be posible to see what would happen to those i care about i ceased to be before i choice whether to flip it?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-10-19 07:11pm

No, because while as fucked up and utterly worthless my life is at the
moment, I have contributed to the community a lot, see the ASVS
Fanfiction Archive (now ASVS/SDN), I originally founded that in 1999,
along with starting the fanfic flood on ASVS. After Imperial Phoenix
was posted, more people started to write, and it led to this state
of affairs where we have a lot of writers over in our Fanfic Forum.

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2003-10-19 09:19pm

I hate my life so much right now that heads sounds just as appealing as tails

(edit) so to answer your question, yes i would take the coin

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