Can Jedi sense the presence of droids?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 12:21am

Like how they can sense people coming or around them. Can they sense the same with droids?

Secondly, do their precog work with the same effectiveness against droids as well?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-10-21 12:23am

Don't know about sensing droids, but precog is precog, whether it's with an animal or a machine.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-10-21 12:49am

Precog is sensing an event before it happens. Sensing the presence of a being is limited to particular biologicals (ie., non-Yuuzhan Vong species).

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 12:50am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Precog is sensing an event before it happens. Sensing the presence of a being is limited to particular biologicals (ie., non-Yuuzhan Vong species).

So about sensing a presence: how does it work against inorganics, like droids?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-10-21 12:59am

It depends on how it works.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 01:01am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:It depends on how it works.

Which means?????

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-10-21 01:08am

It seems some can, some can't. My guess is rather than sensing them directly some forces users can senses them indirectly through their effects rather than directly like they do with a living being.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-10-21 01:11am

For instance, Jedi Joe could feel a bunch of stormies coming to get him from across the abandoned space station. The assassin droids he wouldn't detect until there was some direct intent to attack him and precog warned him, I'd think.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 01:28am

'kay, thanks everyone.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-10-21 01:54am

Shinova wrote:Like how they can sense people coming or around them. Can they sense the same with droids?

Yup.

Heir to the Empire

pg.16: Automatically, his hand moved toward his lightsaber; but the motion had barely begun before it stopped. The sense of the creature coming through the doorway... "I'm over here, Threepio," he called.

Luke able to sense C3P0

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 01:59am

Kay.

I actually made this topic cause I was running the idea of KOSMOS (Xenosaga) vs a Jedi through my head, and wondering if one would be able to sense KOSMOS within a nearby or far vincinity or not.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-10-21 03:26am

Actually yes, the Jedi can definately sense droids. In the Courtship of Princess Leia, Luke explains to Isolder that just about everything is interconnected with the force. And it's further reinforced by his revelation as he's dying from his encounter with the witch.

Obiwan defined it as an energy being created by all living things, and that is probably the truth, from a certain point of view. I guess it's readily exhibited by living things, but the Force IS the Galaxy, the Force that binds everything together and works just as strong in cold vacuum as it does on a planet full of life.

But back to droids, yes definately. Just as Anakin has an uncanny ability with machines enhanced by the force. All the systems are within the realm of the Force so each has its presence.

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-10-21 04:42am

In other books, some character refers to droids as abominations, since the Force is not "flowing" through them.

No...I don't think Force users directly feel the presence of droids.

Or it depends on the certain character's mastery of the Force.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-10-21 05:26am

Wasn't there a book or something where Luke was hiding with some girl and he couldn't sense R2 and 3CPO when they were at the door? I believe he just said that he felt nothing.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-10-21 12:09pm

There is a Force which flows through droids and other forms of machinery.

Electromagnetism.

I'm sure a Force-user can sense the mechanical emanations of electric and magnetic fields of a droid in operation.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-10-21 02:28pm

I think Jedi can detect the "electricity" or power that "flows" through a droid.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-21 04:58pm

Methinks that if the Jedi knows the droid personally (ie Luke and Threepio), then they could.

Also, if the droid was Force-sensative.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-10-21 05:59pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Methinks that if the Jedi knows the droid personally (ie Luke and Threepio), then they could.

Also, if the droid was Force-sensative.

Droids can be force-sensitive?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-21 06:02pm

Jorrus C'aboath(sp?) claimed that droids where abominations. "creaures that could reason and think, yet aren't truely a part of the force" or words to that effect.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 06:12pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Shinova wrote:Like how they can sense people coming or around them. Can they sense the same with droids?
Yup.

Heir to the Empire

pg.16: Automatically, his hand moved toward his lightsaber; but the motion had barely begun before it stopped. The sense of the creature coming through the doorway... "I'm over here, Threepio," he called.

Luke able to sense C3P0

I asked this same question on a different board and the people there said that Luke didn't actually sense anyone on the other side of the door, so assumed that it must be Threepio.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-10-21 08:02pm

Yoda wrote:Life creates it. Makes it grow. It's energy surrounds us, and binds us. The rock. The tree.

So, the Force is in rocks, why not other abiotic thing? And IIRC, Jedi can detect sentience (don't know where this is from, but I read it somewhere), so if a droid is sentient, the Jedi should be able to detect that.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-10-21 09:48pm

The fact that precog works with droids is cannon - A New Hope anyone? And it can be argued that they can 'sense' droids from AotC - Obi Wan 'I sense it too!'

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-10-21 09:50pm

Crown wrote:The fact that precog works with droids is cannon - A New Hope anyone?

I don't remember. Where was that?

And it can be argued that they can 'sense' droids from AotC - Obi Wan 'I sense it too!'

Weren't those worms? Or are you talking about TPM's opening scenes?

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-10-21 10:12pm

Shinova wrote:
Crown wrote:The fact that precog works with droids is cannon - A New Hope anyone?
I don't remember. Where was that?

When Luke was training on the Falcon with the remote.

And it can be argued that they can 'sense' droids from AotC - Obi Wan 'I sense it too!'
Weren't those worms? Or are you talking about TPM's opening scenes?

My bad, you're right they reacted to the worms.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-21 11:17pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Methinks that if the Jedi knows the droid personally (ie Luke and Threepio), then they could.

Also, if the droid was Force-sensative.
Droids can be force-sensitive?

That one assassain droid who hung out with Zukuss was told he was in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, or whatever it was called.

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