Did Jesus of Nazareth Actually Exist?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

He's Daniel Rodgers?!

[Durandal]

But the ability to use logical fallacies must be evidence of the validity of logical fallacies. :D

[AdmiralKanos]

He's Daniel Rodgers?!

Either that, or he's pretending to be him by using the same E-mail handle. BTW, like the ASU Coward, he's also from Arizona.

[AdmiralKanos]

But the ability to use logical fallacies must be evidence of the validity of logical fallacies.

And a teenager's wet dreams about Carmen Elektra giving him a blowjob must be evidence that Carmen Elektra will soon come to give him a blowjob. After all, there are a LOT of teenagers who dream about that, so it must be true, right?

[Wicked Pilot]

Either that, or he's pretending to be him by using the same E-mail handle. BTW, like the ASU Coward, he's also from Arizona.

What the fuck is wrong with Arizonians?

[AdmiralKanos]

Either that, or he's pretending to be him by using the same E-mail handle. BTW, like the ASU Coward, he's also from Arizona.

What the fuck is wrong with Arizonians?

Scorpion bite to the neck. Kills the brain but somehow leaves the rest of the body ambulatory, to lurch aimlesly about in the night until it stumbles into a computer terminal.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Oh, but there is. Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, you name 'em, they're spawning right and left.

ROTFLMAO!!!! You think that the existence of the believer is evidence of his beliefs?

BTW, guess who "Raoul Duke Jr" is, everybody: I checked his profile, and it's Visionrazor!

Yep; another dumb-ass anti-logic anti-atheist moron (who isn't even honest enough to admit that he's religious) turns out to be a dumb-ass Trekkie fanatic too (he's the idiot who said that the Empire's vast numerical advantage would be a detriment in war because there would be more targets to shoot at).

Ad Hominems abound! Yeee ha! And it's not a matter of honesty; I am not religious. I'll say it again -- I dislike extremists of any kind, and anti-religious extremism fits the bill as well as anything else. And if you will exhibit the grace to read what I actually sent you, Darth Wong, you will see that nowhere, nowhere in anything I sent you did I state that numerical superiority is a detriment to effectiveness in military campaigns -- merely that it is not the be-all and end-all of military success.

[Durandal]

It wasn't an ad hominem. He was just pointing out the fact that you've demonstrated your idiocy on other occasions.

[Darth Wong]

Ad Hominems abound! Yeee ha!

Wrong. I say you're an idiot because of your shitty arguments (which we can see a lot more of, now that I noticed who you are). That is different from saying that your argument are shitty because you're an idiot (ad hominem).

And it's not a matter of honesty; I am not religious. I'll say it again -- I dislike extremists of any kind, and anti-religious extremism fits the bill as well as anything else.

Golden Mean fallacy, eh? Sorry, but it's not "extremist" to say that religion is irrational, or that atheism is not a religion. It would be "extremist" to attempt to persecute religious people, which no one here has suggested doing.

And if you will exhibit the grace to read what I actually sent you, Darth Wong, you will see that nowhere, nowhere in anything I sent you did I state that numerical superiority is a detriment to effectiveness in military campaigns -- merely that it is not the be-all and end-all of military success.

Oh really! Let's look at the quotes, eh?

So they've got more stuff... More stuff to be stolen, sabotagd, retroengineered, boobytrapped...

This was found among other intellectual gems, such as:

So here comes the Empire, the fat, self-satisfied bully with all their toys and cannon-fodder, casualty-list filler friends to take on some of the toughest kids in a particularly nasty neighborhood.

Sorry, but you did argue that the Empire's sheer numbers would merely give their enemies lots of targets (or "casualty-list filler" as you put it). Thanks for confirming your habitual dishonesty.

[Captain Hornblower]

Hey, I'm from Arizona, well, moved to Arizona anyway! But don't hold that against me. I am an atheist surrounded by mormons!

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Ad Hominems abound! Yeee ha!

Wrong. I say you're an idiot because of your shitty arguments (which we can see a lot more of, now that I noticed who you are). That is different from saying that your argument are shitty because you're an idiot (ad hominem).

And it's not a matter of honesty; I am not religious. I'll say it again -- I dislike extremists of any kind, and anti-religious extremism fits the bill as well as anything else.

Golden Mean fallacy, eh? Sorry, but it's not "extremist" to say that religion is irrational, or that atheism is not a religion. It would be "extremist" to attempt to persecute religious people, which no one here has suggested doing.

And if you will exhibit the grace to read what I actually sent you, Darth Wong, you will see that nowhere, nowhere in anything I sent you did I state that numerical superiority is a detriment to effectiveness in military campaigns -- merely that it is not the be-all and end-all of military success.

Oh really! Let's look at the quotes, eh?

So they've got more stuff... More stuff to be stolen, sabotagd, retroengineered, boobytrapped...

This was found among other intellectual gems, such as:

So here comes the Empire, the fat, self-satisfied bully with all their toys and cannon-fodder, casualty-list filler friends to take on some of the toughest kids in a particularly nasty neighborhood.

Sorry, but you did argue that the Empire's sheer numbers would merely give their enemies lots of targets (or "casualty-list filler" as you put it). Thanks for confirming your habitual dishonesty.

Right. Are you disputing that the more ships come around, the more you have to shoot at? Is that in question?

[Master of Ossus]

Actually, if you have superior numbers when compared with your enemies, even assuming parity of quality, the side with larger numbers will absorb fewer casualties because their ships/soldiers/what have you will be able to cover each other, pin down enemies, and combine their firepower.

[Darth Wong]

Right. Are you disputing that the more ships come around, the more you have to shoot at? Is that in question?

No, I'm disputing your moronic notion that this won't be a problem for the defender, since those ships will also be pouring fire back on you, and their volume of fire will greatly exceed yours! Holy fuck, you actually seem to be getting dumber with time.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Maybe the next time you dispute one of my moronic notions, you should check to see whether it actually is my moronic notion or not.

[Darth Wong]

Oh, for fuck's sake, I've already provided that quote! Now you're just engaging in hopeless Darkstar-style brick-wall denials.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

What I'm saying is that I never claimed that such a situation wouldn't be a problem for the defenders. That's what you assumed I was saying.

[Darth Wong]

What I'm saying is that I never claimed that such a situation wouldn't be a problem for the defenders. That's what you assumed I was saying.

Really? Then why did you claim that the Federation would win despite a 1000:1 numerical disadvantage? Go ahead and try to squirm out of admitting your failures. Everyone else can simply see your stupidity on glorious display at http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Hat ... razor.html

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

I don't recall ever saying they'd win. But I certainly hold to the idea that they wouldn't lose as quickly or completely as you claim.

[Darth Wong]

I don't recall ever saying they'd win. But I certainly hold to the idea that they wouldn't lose as quickly or completely as you claim.

In other words, you don't see why a 1000:1 numerical disadvantage would lead to crushing defeat. I repeat: dumber than a box of hammers.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

That 1000:1 numerical advantage coming into play as quickly as you say it will, with no forewarning, is the assumption I challenge.

[Master of Ossus]

Fine. Challenge it. That is exactly what would happen because of the Empire's enormous advantage in strategic speed. They would be able to attack wherever and with whatever forces they felt like, with the Federation completely unable to concentrate its forces in the correct areas. Now, it likely would not be a localized 1000:1 advantage because the Empire would never dedicate such forces to such a crappy goal of conquering the Federation, but the Empire would always have a local advantage in firepower, and likely in numbers, when it chose to attack. Note that the Federation would be unable to defend any targets, whatsoever, and their inferior speed would also make their ability to counter-attack highly dubious.

[Darth Wong]

That 1000:1 numerical advantage coming into play as quickly as you say it will, with no forewarning, is the assumption I challenge.

Red herring, ie- changing the subject. In your original debate, you denied the importance of the numerical superiority in general.

Besides, since the Imps have faster FTL than the Feds, deployment is actually yet ANOTHER disadvantage for the Feds. 1% of the Empire is still more than 50 times the Federation, with 1000 times the propulsion speed. You're just too damned stubborn to admit error, aren't you?

[Darth Wong]

BTW, here's another gem from self-proclaimed genius Visionrazor:

I'm also impressed with the way you completely ignored the tactic of assaulting strategic targets aboard a threat vessel using TR16 rifles from a captured escape pod.

Yep, he seriously argued that Fed ships could launch snipers aboard captured Imperial escape pods as a battle tactic! This clown is a laugh riot.

[Master of Ossus]

Master of Ossus notes: dismissing a tactic as being either irrelevent or utterly stupid (or both, in this particular case), is not necessarily ignoring it.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

BTW, here's another gem from self-proclaimed genius Visionrazor:

I'm also impressed with the way you completely ignored the tactic of assaulting strategic targets aboard a threat vessel using TR16 rifles from a captured escape pod.

Yep, he seriously argued that Fed ships could launch snipers aboard captured Imperial escape pods as a battle tactic! This clown is a laugh riot.

Nope, I seriously argued that the Feds could arm their escape pods with TR16s, thereby enabling anyone the Imperials attempted to capture to eliminate targets of opportunity aboard Imperial boarding craft or any capship unwise enough to tractor them inside its shields. But that's neither here nor there.