Massive arsenal seized near my home town

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 2003-10-22 12:22am

I was wondering when they'd move in on this guy...

Linky...

I don't think it shows in the article, but his mechanism is so freaking cool, it's like something out of an action movie. A sliding wall reveals a vault with contents to rival the secret level of Arnold's house.

Still it's a little bit sad that he went from having such a cool collection to being charged and banned from ever owning guns again.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-22 12:24am

Sweet.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-10-22 12:48am

Whoa.

On another note, people have been stealing guns from security, I think some bad mojo is brewing in Sydney.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-10-22 01:09am

Where do people get the money to buy all those guns. Is it pretty cheap to live in Kansas on a construction workers wages?

Did he own this house? If my renter installed a secret door in my house Id be pretty pissed.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-10-22 03:47am

What crimes (other than ownership of the weapons themselves) did he commit with all of this firepower?

None.

This guy is simply a collector that the 1986 ban on civilian machine gun manufacture made a criminal out of. If you like full autos, yet can't afford them thanks to the 1986 ban resulting in a single M16 costing $5000 or more, what do you do?

You buy unregistered weapons and take your chances.

If the 1986 ban had never been passed and you could still buy a civilian legal M16 for $800+$200 transfer tax (instead of $5k+ for a 20 year old one), I bet this guy probably would have obeyed the law and bought NFA registered weapons.

Unlike the illegal drug market, it's the legal full autos that cost an arm and a leg. Illegal guns are cheaper than legal ones thanks to the 86 ban.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-10-22 03:49am

I'm pissed that all these guns are going to be destroyed "to keep them out of the hands of terorists"

We need a puke smiley.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-10-22 07:19am

'...kept a huge cache of weapons from falling into the hands of dangerous criminals'.

So it's my civic duty to alert the police to any large caches of weapons? Gee, why don't they check the police station?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-22 12:11pm

There's a PPSh-41 in that collection. Hatfuckers- destroying important historical pieces like that.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-10-22 12:40pm

Vympel wrote:There's a PPSh-41 in that collection. Hatfuckers- destroying important historical pieces like that.

And a couple Tommies too.

This shit is why stupid laws create criminals out of otherwise completely law-abiding citizens...

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-10-22 12:42pm

Vympel wrote:There's a PPSh-41 in that collection. Hatfuckers- destroying important historical pieces like that.

Is that an Mp40 in the third row, second from the left?

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-10-22 03:14pm

I believe it is.

There's also what looks to be an M3 greasegun in the lower right corner next to the shotgun.

I'd love to have one of those Thompsons.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-10-22 03:43pm

it is a shame, but if those weapons are illegal.... well the law is the law and like it or not everyone must abide by it.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-22 06:00pm

Just wondering but how many types of .50 caliber rounds fired from machine guns are non-lethal?

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-10-22 06:20pm

Just why the hell can't they sell those weapons to collectors? That's the way it's done in every other country.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-10-22 06:24pm

neoolong wrote:Just wondering but how many types of .50 caliber rounds fired from machine guns are non-lethal?

All. There has yet to be a crime committed with a .50 caliber weapon.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-10-22 06:33pm

Nathan F wrote:
neoolong wrote:Just wondering but how many types of .50 caliber rounds fired from machine guns are non-lethal?
All. There has yet to be a crime committed with a .50 caliber weapon.

Give me time

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-10-22 06:42pm

Oberleutnant wrote:Just why the hell can't they sell those weapons to collectors? That's the way it's done in every other country.

The US and i`ll add Canadian governments have a wierd thinking process,keep these off the hands of honest citisen and allow criminals to get them.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-22 06:56pm

THERE'S A THOMPSON IN THAT PICTURE! I WANT IT!

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-10-22 07:54pm

I would love to have that MP40.....if the noise I heard they make are correct then DAMN, I like that sound.~Jason

Kitsune · Post by **Kitsune** » 2003-10-23 11:15pm

I wonder...If someone steals Pattons (or other Historic Figure) pistols from a Museum and then mruders someone with them, will the police then sieze them and melt them down?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-24 12:31am

Kitsune wrote:I wonder...If someone steals Pattons (or other Historic Figure) pistols from a Museum and then mruders someone with them, will the police then sieze them and melt them down?

As stolen property they'd be returned.

There really shouldn't be any laws restricting guns that cost more then a few hundred bucks or are more then perhaps 15 inches long. Almost no crimes are committed with them. You can buy an SKS, a big bad evil automatic rifle in the eyes of morons, for about a hundred bucks, as much as the ultra low end .22 and .32cal handguns with which much crime is committed, yet despite the huge leap up in firepower no one does it because rifles in any form suck for crime as they are too heavy and long.

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2003-10-24 01:14am

2nd Amendment? What the fuck is that? :puke:

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-10-24 01:56am

Solid Snake wrote:2nd Amendment? What the fuck is that?

Nothing in the 2nd Amendement says you can own any sort of arms you wish, nor ignore laws prohibiting "destructive devices" and "military hardware" from being in civillian ownership.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-10-24 12:43pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Solid Snake wrote:2nd Amendment? What the fuck is that?
Nothing in the 2nd Amendement says you can own any sort of arms you wish, nor ignore laws prohibiting "destructive devices" and "military hardware" from being in civillian ownership.

Actually the 2nd is precisely intended to protect the right to bear arms that are of use in a militia. The US Supreme Court in Miller held that Miller's possession of a sawn off shotgun wasn't a protected right because said weapon wasn't useful in a militia context.

The irony is that a shotgun is a useful militia weapon, but dunderheaded rulings are what happens when only one side shows up to argue the case in court (Miller was a moonshiner who disappeared after the trial court threw out his conviction based on the 2nd amendment. The government appealed to the SC, but neither Miller nor his lawyer were there to argue his case)

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-24 01:11pm

Nathan F wrote:
neoolong wrote:Just wondering but how many types of .50 caliber rounds fired from machine guns are non-lethal?
All. There has yet to be a crime committed with a .50 caliber weapon.

What does that have to do with them being non-lethal?