Massive arsenal seized near my home town

[Sea Skimmer]

Actually the 2nd is precisely intended to protect the right to bear arms that are of use in a militia. The US Supreme Court in Miller held that Miller's possession of a sawn off shotgun wasn't a protected right because said weapon wasn't useful in a militia context.

The irony is that a shotgun is a useful militia weapon, but dunderheaded rulings are what happens when only one side shows up to argue the case in court (Miller was a moonshiner who disappeared after the trial court threw out his conviction based on the 2nd amendment. The government appealed to the SC, but neither Miller nor his lawyer were there to argue his case)

Actually it was hinged around the fact that it was a sawed off shotgun, normal shotguns where legal. However even that is wrong and the court was lied to, because the US Army used tens of thousands of sawed off shotguns in WW1.

[Pu-239]

I hate all these "concerned" [insert description here].

[weemadando]

What crimes (other than ownership of the weapons themselves) did he commit with all of this firepower?

None.

This guy is simply a collector that the 1986 ban on civilian machine gun manufacture made a criminal out of. If you like full autos, yet can't afford them thanks to the 1986 ban resulting in a single M16 costing $5000 or more, what do you do?

You buy unregistered weapons and take your chances.

So he was a criminal. Concession accepted and shut up.

[Glocksman]

What crimes (other than ownership of the weapons themselves) did he commit with all of this firepower?

None.

This guy is simply a collector that the 1986 ban on civilian machine gun manufacture made a criminal out of. If you like full autos, yet can't afford them thanks to the 1986 ban resulting in a single M16 costing $5000 or more, what do you do?

You buy unregistered weapons and take your chances.

So he was a criminal. Concession accepted and shut up.

What concession? I wasn't aware that this was a debate.

Anyway, there are laws that the violation of is an act of evil in itself, such as the laws against murder, rape, etc. You don't need a law to tell you that rape and murder are wrong.

Then we have the laws that are morally irrelevant, such as the US NFA. Absent an eleventh commandment stating that 'thou shalt not own machineguns', the mere act of arms possession is morally irrelevant and not evil in and of itself. He's not going to Hell for owning an Uzi.



So the guy's a criminal for violating some statute, but he's not evil.

[weemadando]

So the guy's a criminal for violating some statute, but he's not evil.

I never said he was evil.

I just pointed out that he was in fact, a criminal. Something which you both confirmed and denied in your post.