The Final Fate of Nom Anor

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-10-26 10:39pm

We have a little over a week to go before the release of The Unifying Force, the 19th and final book of The New Jedi Order story arc. In less than a week, the fates of many of the key players will be decided and one that we all look forward to is that fate of the Vong Executor who has been causing trouble since the very start: Nom Anor. Should he survive the end of the The New Jedi Order or should his life end before we turn the last page?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-26 10:46pm

Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-10-26 10:55pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.

Nitpick: Its a hardback.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-10-26 10:59pm

He's a very Moriarity like character, I think they should finish him in that vein.

When is the street date BTW?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-10-26 11:01pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.

Out of curiosity, since all you ever do in NJO threads is bemoan the series, why do you bother posting in them?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-26 11:36pm

Ender wrote:Out of curiosity, since all you ever do in NJO threads is bemoan the series, why do you bother posting in them?

Actually I rarely do that and post in few them anyway.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-10-27 12:57am

Ender wrote:He's a very Moriarity like character, I think they should finish him in that vein.

When is the street date BTW?

November 4.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-10-27 05:38am

Ender wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.
Out of curiosity, since all you ever do in NJO threads is bemoan the series, why do you bother posting in them?

he does make a good point. NJO finally started getting good before the Force Heretic books and the last novel, there is no way this series can end now without being rushed.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-27 06:05am

Isn't 19 books a silly number to end a series on? Bah, I don't know why you people care about it- 20+ years after Episode VI, it's getting a bit ridiculous I'm afraid (Dune suffered from the same- by the third book I didn't give a toss).

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-10-27 07:16am

I liked the idea behind the NJO, the overall story arc thing. It was more promising than Coruscant's crisis of the week that we were getting in the EU before that (with the exception of the X-Wing novels). However some of it was just so poor, I stopped buying the NJO after book 17 (or was it 16?).

Either way I request - nay demand, full spoilers on who is actually in charge of the YV (Shimaera or his shamed one), why they aren't a part of the force, and who finally comits the mass genocide that wipes them off the face of the galaxy at the end!

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-10-27 07:17am

He should die. When you have a recurring villain like this you simply HAVE to kill him, in the end. Moreover, it is HIGHLY unrealistic that anyone who's personally responsible for the deaths of TRILLIANS of beings could possibly be even remotely accepted by the members of the Galaxy at large. Even if the GA were to forgive him, there would be elements that were out to kill him. With the number of people affected negatively by such a character, SOMEONE would eventually succeed in terminating him.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-10-27 07:55am

Master of Ossus wrote:He should die. When you have a recurring villain like this you simply HAVE to kill him, in the end. Moreover, it is HIGHLY unrealistic that anyone who's personally responsible for the deaths of TRILLIANS of beings could possibly be even remotely accepted by the members of the Galaxy at large. Even if the GA were to forgive him, there would be elements that were out to kill him. With the number of people affected negatively by such a character, SOMEONE would eventually succeed in terminating him.

*clears throat*

Kyp Durron

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-10-27 08:52am

There's no books between "Reunion" and "The Unifying Force" right?

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-10-27 09:24am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:There's no books between "Reunion" and "The Unifying Force" right?

Force Heretic III, then the latest book, Final Prophecy, then Unifying Force.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-10-28 08:55am

he'll die... every single Yuuzhan Vong will die i think, because they'll never surrender... but im kean on knowing

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-10-28 12:16pm

The Republic designs a version of the Krytos Virus that targets Yuuzahn Vong and their creations and he's the first to be infected with it.

EDIT: This is what I WANT to happen. Of course it won't, so don't panic and think I've spoiled the end.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2003-10-28 12:37pm

Nom Anor and his long-livety slowly are unnervig.
Time to die for him....

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-10-28 01:44pm

Kuja wrote:The Republic designs a version of the Krytos Virus that targets Yuuzahn Vong and their creations and he's the first to be infected with it.

EDIT: This is what I WANT to happen. Of course it won't, so don't panic and think I've spoiled the end.

They already have the Alpha red project.... this could never happen after all stuff about alpha red

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-28 03:46pm

I have a question about NJO that i didn't want to start a new thread over as it's only a minor question. I just finished Destiny's Way and i saw that Ylesia is the next part. However according to my friendly Customer Service at WH smith Ylesia isn't a book? What the hell is it and is it important on the timeline?

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2003-10-28 04:44pm

Lord Pounder wrote:I have a question about NJO that i didn't want to start a new thread over as it's only a minor question. I just finished Destiny's Way and i saw that Ylesia is the next part. However according to my friendly Customer Service at WH smith Ylesia isn't a book? What the hell is it and is it important on the timeline?

Its an E-Book that was supposed to be released for free at the end of destiny's way. But due to some FUBAR at the printers, it wasn't included.

You can download it from SW.com here:

http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2003/08/ylesia.pdf

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-10-28 08:18pm

Lex wrote:
Kuja wrote:The Republic designs a version of the Krytos Virus that targets Yuuzahn Vong and their creations and he's the first to be infected with it.

EDIT: This is what I WANT to happen. Of course it won't, so don't panic and think I've spoiled the end.
They already have the Alpha red project.... this could never happen after all stuff about alpha red

Yes, but I think first we'd better look at this except from the synopsis for TUF:

At the same time, the Jedi’s alliances throughout the galaxy are being tested—and the chances of victory jeopardized—by rogue factions determined to deploy the lethal weapon that will exterminate the Yuuzhan Vong . . . and perhaps countless other species.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-10-28 10:27pm

Nom Amor will die.

More then likely, at the hands of Tahiri (note, I have not read Final Prophecy yet)

As to the end of the NJO; (Spoiler Space)

The planet (Zoma Sekot, I know that is spelt wrong) that might be the Vong homeworld will take the Shamed ones and Vong that turn against the Vong hiearcy as it's new citizens and depart

Coruscant will be rebuilt by the GFFA

Shimira will be revealed to be under the control of his Shamed one.

Anakin Solo might be resurrected by Tahiri using Vong cloning and the Lambiant Crystal in his lightsaber (its Crystal Anakin).
I doubts that last part, but I can see it happening to avoid a massive fan fueled assault on Del Ray books

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-10-29 03:54pm

I think part of the whole NJO arc has been about Nom Anor, he is the villan that has to die for the whole thing to end. I consider it something of the order that while Shimarra is the head honcho the guy who has been the mover and shaker is Nom Anor (much as the Emperor was the head guy but we really only cared about Vader). Now obviously that comparison is fraught with many problems but it does point to the fact that Nom Anor needs to die (or go away permanently) for there to be any conclusion to the story arc.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-10-29 04:14pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:I think part of the whole NJO arc has been about Nom Anor, he is the villan that has to die for the whole thing to end. I consider it something of the order that while Shimarra is the head honcho the guy who has been the mover and shaker is Nom Anor (much as the Emperor was the head guy but we really only cared about Vader). Now obviously that comparison is fraught with many problems but it does point to the fact that Nom Anor needs to die (or go away permanently) for there to be any conclusion to the story arc.

I agree; he was the first Vong we saw, the first of many antagonists with whom we have become aquainted with over the last four years, especially ince that, out of all 19 books (Not counting the e-books), Nom Anor has appeared in 14 of them.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2003-10-31 01:35am

i dont know if i want to to lill Nom now, i mean during and after Vector Prime than 3 books after Balancing Point i hated Nom. now that i see Tsavong Lah and Lord Shimrraa was much more power hungry and should be shot ten times over more than Nom Anor ive come to like Nom. He should survive to live in the underbellies of society and make a new type of Black Sun thing in the new Galactic Alliance galaxy

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