Errant Venture in NJO

[Illuminatus Primus]

Neither of which disproves my point that a lesser warship could have taken on the Reaper.

Wrong. You justified your point with those examples, which are irrelevent. The burden of proof is still empty.

So what if she was scrapped in favor of a newer, more effecient and effective class? It's not unreasonable for them to scrap massive resource sink like an aging SSD.

You're backpeddling and obfuscating the point. The NRS Lusankya was obviously capable of outfighting the HIMS Reaper, therefore, it could have outfought the DLS Pride of Yevetha, and since they didn't believe they possessed anything capable of outfighting it, either they didn't know the NRS Lusankya existed, OR it was in dry-dock for repairs and under consideration for being scrapped, but it obviously was not.

The NRS Lusankya was outfitted in such a manner that it could destroy a stock Executor-class commandship. Fact.

That doesn't change the fact that the Lusankya was noteably absent or ignored in the Black Fleet Crisis. Leia who knew about it certainly never considered it. That suggests that it was refitted in a non-standard manner.

Before the Black Fleet Crisis, it was refitted in such a manner that it could outfight an Executor-class commandship and survive, the toughest vessel in the Duskhan League fleet. Fact.

[Stormbringer]

Wrong. You justified your point with those examples, which are irrelevent. The burden of proof is still empty.

No, they're not irrelevant. You claimed that no lesser ship could outfight an Executor. Clearly they can under the right circumstances.

You're backpeddling and obfuscating the point. The NRS Lusankya was obviously capable of outfighting the HIMS Reaper, therefore, it could have outfought the DLS Pride of Yevetha, and since they didn't believe they possessed anything capable of outfighting it, either they didn't know the NRS Lusankya existed, OR it was in dry-dock for repairs and under consideration for being scrapped, but it obviously was not.

They didn't think of it as capable of destroying a late model Executor in a straight up fight; in fact they don't think of it period. In fact they never considered her as an option to counter the Pride despite being in great fear of her. That suggests that it was not the full equal of the ex-Intimidator.

Given that is served another fifteen years or more I doubt it was under consideration for scrapping.

The NRS Lusankya was outfitted in such a manner that it could destroy a stock Executor-class commandship. Fact.

It was able to drive off a stock Executor under unknown circumstances.

Before the Black Fleet Crisis, it was refitted in such a manner that it could outfight an Executor-class commandship and survive, the toughest
vessel in the Duskhan League fleet. Fact.

Actually, that's the very opposite of fact. The fucking naval staff and Leia the Cheif of State never considered the Lusankya as an option for fighting the ex-Intimidator. That argues she's incapable of fighting a well maintained late model Executor.

[Ender]

Well, no we are only given explicit confirmation of one, and only in a pratial listing of the fleet. Rest of the time they just say the fleet. Other could still be there.

Basically, we have no idea what happened, so we assume that they continued on as before, which would put them under Yevethan control.

It's unlikely given that the slave defection apparently broke the back of Yevethan resistance. If they still had two ships larger or at least equal to the NR's best I doubt that would have been the case.

They would have lept out with the rest of the Imperial designed fleet. Quit reaching.

It's entirely possible they had to scavenge crucial parts from the other two SSDs. Twelves years wear and tear might just have worn them down.

There are statements that not only did they maintain the fleet of Imperial vessels, they expanded it. A lot more materails will go into building a new destroyer then will go into basic upkeep of a battleship. That argument doesn't fly.

It was enough to warrant both the Lusankya and the Guardian once it was fixed. That implies a pretty big push to me.

That's a big force but it doesn't mean that the Imperials had an equal opposing force.

Right, because it takes 2 republic fleets to push back an Imperial task force.

It was obviously a significant offensive as they dedicated two fleets, both containing ships with the most massive concentrations of firepower in the navy, simply to push it back.

Actually the statement is that they have nothing on its scale, and this is shown to be false by the existance fo the Lusankya

Or that the Lusankya isn't the equal of the Pride of Yevetha.

What the fuck? the statment is that they build smaller warships and that they scrappe dthe only SSD they had captured. They didn't scrap the Lusankya, showing the statement to be false and thus does not support your argument.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki]

No, they're not irrelevant. You claimed that no lesser ship could outfight an Executor. Clearly they can under the right circumstances.

Destroying is on a very different deck than scaring off. Scaring can be done psychologically (A destroyer can scare off a battleship sure it is vectoring about 100 carrier planes in its direction.) Destroying more often requires real physical ability.

An inferior battleship can destroy a superior battleship if it is consistently more lucky or VERY lucky once. But if I have no other details other than two battleships fought and one came out on top, most people would think that the winner was at least equal to the loser in capability.

For that matter, I'm still curious as to how Reaper was destroyed at Orinda, since I've also read it was destroyed later, and the Imps won Orinda.

[Illuminatus Primus]

You claimed that no lesser ship could outfight an Executor. Clearly they can under the right circumstances.

This is a lie and complete fabrication, for which I demand an apology, particularly when the truth was a click away on the page one link below.

My post:

Impossible.

The ship had already outfought and destroyed HIMS Reaper commanded by Admiral Pelleaon at the Battle of Orinda before the Black Fleet crisis. The NRS Lusankya was also clearly indicated to be fully-restored as of X-Wing: Isard's Revenge, and went on to fight at Pheada (spl?) against Interim Council Chairman "Lord" Carnor Jax's Imperial Star Destroyer.

A specific portion of your response:

So what if she out fought Reaper? Calamari cruisers have done the same against Executor class SSDs.

The claim was yours, not mine.

This was shown incorrect, and you have yet to fill the burden of proof for this claim. There are no lesser vessels which can outfight an Executor, and even if there were, this again obfuscates the point. The entire point was that the New Republic did not believe they possessed a vessel capable of outrighting the DLS Pride of Yevetha, a "late-model" Executor-class commandship.

To this I posted proof that the NRS Lusankya was capable of outfighting and surviving against an Executor-class commandship, and provided the example of HIMS Reaper, destroyed in the campiagns against the Imperial Remnant in the Antemeridian Sector by the NRS Lusankya without awknowledged support.

To this you replied that the DLS Pride of Yevetha was a "late-model" Executor-class commandship. This is a red herring, the sole known difference of a redundant shield generator along the midline of the commandship does not establish significant durability or warmaking capacity over an original-model Executor-class vessel such as the NRS Lusankya. Furthermore, HIMS Reaper was NOT among the first generation Executor-class vessels like the NRS Lusankya, and could very well have been a "late-model" Executor-class commandship herself.

They didn't think of it as capable of destroying a late model Executor in a straight up fight; in fact they don't think of it period. In fact they never considered her as an option to counter the Pride despite being in great fear of her. That suggests that it was not the full equal of the ex-Intimidator.

Given that is served another fifteen years or more I doubt it was under consideration for scrapping.

Distortion and disregard for fact.

The NRS Lusankya was claimed to be scrapped and used to build Defender-class Star Destroyers which is not consistent with your explanation. It was not scrapped.

It was able to drive off a stock Executor under unknown circumstances.

If you have evidence to suggest extreme or unique circumstances, I'd like to hear them. Otherwise William kindly asks you to shut up.

Actually, that's the very opposite of fact. The fucking naval staff and Leia the Cheif of State never considered the Lusankya as an option for fighting the ex-Intimidator. That argues she's incapable of fighting a well maintained late model Executor.

You're clearly a dipshit who cannot read (see above), including the novel you're preaching on. The NRS Lusankya was said to be scrapped, her hull and components cannibalized to build Defender-class Star Destroyers. If that is what the naval staff believes, clearly they are misinformed or uninformed. The NRS Lusankya fights future battles for the NRDF. It wasn't scrapped, and the opinion of the politicians and naval staff in the BFC is irrelevent if they did not awknowledge the NRS Lusankya as existing, despite the unambigious evidence it did.

[Stormbringer]

This is a lie and complete fabrication, for which I demand an apology, particularly when the truth was a click away on the page one link below.

No, you claimed or at least implied that the Lusankya was full blown SSD simply because it defeated a another SSD, despite not driving it off.

This was shown incorrect, and you have yet to fill the burden of proof for this claim. There are no lesser vessels which can outfight an Executor, and even if there were, this again obfuscates the point. The entire point was that the New Republic did not believe they possessed a vessel capable of outrighting the DLS Pride of Yevetha, a "late-model" Executor-class commandship.

On the contrary, the Mon Remonda fought the Iron Fist and won under the right circumstances.

To this I posted proof that the NRS Lusankya was capable of outfighting and surviving against an Executor-class commandship, and provided the example of HIMS Reaper, destroyed in the campiagns against the Imperial Remnant in the Antemeridian Sector by the NRS Lusankya without awknowledged support.

The engagement you note as the death of the Reaper she is actually listed on Curtis Saxton's site as surviving though she did die in the Antimeridian Sector.

Again, lesser warships have successfully engaged Executors. That proves nothing.

To this you replied that the DLS Pride of Yevetha was a "late-model" Executor-class commandship. This is a red herring, the sole known difference of a redundant shield generator along the midline of the commandship does not establish significant durability or warmaking capacity over an original-model Executor-class vessel such as the NRS Lusankya. Furthermore, HIMS Reaper was NOT among the first generation Executor-class vessels like the NRS Lusankya, and could very well have been a "late-model" Executor-class commandship herself.

I never claimed that the late model conferred any significant edge. I was merely being precise about the threat she should supposedly have faced.

Distortion and disregard for fact.

The NRS Lusankya was claimed to be scrapped and used to build Defender-class Star Destroyers which is not consistent with your explanation. It was not scrapped.

When did I say she was scrapped? You brought that issue up yourself. I'm still not sure what the fuck you're trying to suggest with that.

You're clearly a dipshit who cannot read (see above), including the novel you're preaching on. The NRS Lusankya was said to be scrapped, her hull and components cannibalized to build Defender-class Star Destroyers. If that is what the naval staff believes, clearly they are misinformed or uninformed. The NRS Lusankya fights future battles for the NRDF. It wasn't scrapped, and the opinion of the politicians and naval staff in the BFC is irrelevent if they did not awknowledge the NRS Lusankya as existing, despite the unambigious evidence it did.

Of course it existed. When did I say otherwise? I'm wondering how the hell the very top brass of the New Republic can be unaware of the fact they have a SSD.

[Stormbringer]

They would have lept out with the rest of the Imperial designed fleet. Quit reaching.

Actually, they never resurface unlike the rest of the defector fleet. So we know they weren't in defector hands. And plus they were sure they got all the fleet as I recall.

There are statements that not only did they maintain the fleet of Imperial vessels, they expanded it. A lot more materails will go into building a new destroyer then will go into basic upkeep of a battleship. That argument doesn't fly.

They apparently built ISDs and VSD both of which they had shipyards for. They didn't build any more Executors so it's possible they couldn't do to parts or whatever. They only were build their home grown jobs by copying it exactly. It's possible they didn't have parts they needed for the SSDs.

At the very least it's speculation on why the other two SSDs simply vanished and the Intimidator broke down.

Right, because it takes 2 republic fleets to push back an Imperial task force.

It was obviously a significant offensive as they dedicated two fleets, both containing ships with the most massive concentrations of firepower in the navy, simply to push it back.

Then that is a big offensive. I wasn't familiar with the specific war so I made a mistake.

What the fuck? the statment is that they build smaller warships and that they scrappe dthe only SSD they had captured. They didn't scrap the Lusankya, showing the statement to be false and thus does not support your argument.

So your arguement is that they lost track of an SSD? Or that they forget about one when they desperately needed one?

[Ender]

They would have lept out with the rest of the Imperial designed fleet. Quit reaching.

Actually, they never resurface unlike the rest of the defector fleet.

Not stated. We know the Pride of Yevetha was found derelict, we know part of the fleet joined the Imperials, and we know part of the fleet joined the NR. Never stated that it wasn't accounted for.

In fact, that the fleet joined the Imperial Remnant could account for the presence of the SSD Defiant whent he Empire lacked large ship building capacity at that time.

So we know they weren't in defector hands. And plus they were sure they got all the fleet as I recall.

Unjustified leap in logic. Further they did not recieve all of the fleet; the bulk yes but the Intimidator was found derelict and atleast one ship, the Glory of Yevetha, joined the Empire.

There are statements that not only did they maintain the fleet of Imperial vessels, they expanded it. A lot more materails will go into building a new destroyer then will go into basic upkeep of a battleship. That argument doesn't fly.

They apparently built ISDs and VSD both of which they had shipyards for. They didn't build any more Executors so it's possible they couldn't do to parts or whatever. They only were build their home grown jobs by copying it exactly. It's possible they didn't have parts they needed for the SSDs.

the Intimidator was sent to the Black Fleet yards for finishing and to free up a slip at Kuat. Thus they had shipyards capable of maintaining it.

At the very least it's speculation on why the other two SSDs simply vanished and the Intimidator broke down.

Intimidator broke down long after the defection and was crewed by a far less then skeleton group that was not even largely composed of techs. Null point.

What the fuck? the statment is that they build smaller warships and that they scrapped the only SSD they had captured. They didn't scrap the Lusankya, showing the statement to be false and thus does not support your argument.

So your arguement is that they lost track of an SSD? Or that they forget about one when they desperately needed one?

No, my argument is that the quote is in error and should be disregarded as false.

[Stormbringer]

Not stated. We know the Pride of Yevetha was found derelict, we know part of the fleet joined the Imperials, and we know part of the fleet joined the NR. Never stated that it wasn't accounted for.

In fact, that the fleet joined the Imperial Remnant could account for the presence of the SSD Defiant whent he Empire lacked large ship building capacity at that time.

That's possible but that wouldn't explain why Palleon didn't seem to tally it or use it as a flagship.

Unjustified leap in logic. Further they did not recieve all of the fleet; the bulk yes but the Intimidator was found derelict and atleast one ship, the Glory of Yevetha, joined the Empire.

The fact that the two SSDs don't turn up later suggests they didn't make it.

the Intimidator was sent to the Black Fleet yards for finishing and to free up a slip at Kuat. Thus they had shipyards capable of maintaining it.

Yes, but with out the Imperial industrial complex behind them it's possible they couldn't build key parts.

Intimidator broke down long after the defection and was crewed by a far less then skeleton group that was not even largely composed of techs. Null point.

It was found later, there's nothing I know of that says when they lost it. The fact is that in two years they could easily have contacted the Imperial Rememnant.

No, my argument is that the quote is in error and should be disregarded as false.

So in other words toss out one of the more important plot points of the novel rather than attempt to rationalize it?

[Ender]

Not stated. We know the Pride of Yevetha was found derelict, we know part of the fleet joined the Imperials, and we know part of the fleet joined the NR. Never stated that it wasn't accounted for.

In fact, that the fleet joined the Imperial Remnant could account for the presence of the SSD Defiant whent he Empire lacked large ship building capacity at that time.

That's possible but that wouldn't explain why Palleon didn't seem to tally it or use it as a flagship.

His choice not to use it as a flagship might be a personal one rather then a prestige one.

Fact: The Imperial Remnant has an SSD when they lack the ship builging capacity to construct one.
Fact: The Black Fleet contained 3 SSDs
Fact: There is no evidence the Yevetha lost or scrapped the other 2
Fact: Part of the Black Fleet joined the Imperial Remnant.

Our old friend Occam says that the Empire got atleast one of them.

Unjustified leap in logic. Further they did not recieve all of the fleet; the bulk yes but the Intimidator was found derelict and atleast one ship, the Glory of Yevetha, joined the Empire.

The fact that the two SSDs don't turn up later suggests they didn't make it.

I just showed you that there is another likely to be from the fleet.

the Intimidator was sent to the Black Fleet yards for finishing and to free up a slip at Kuat. Thus they had shipyards capable of maintaining it.

Yes, but with out the Imperial industrial complex behind them it's possible they couldn't build key parts.

Like what? Seriously, there is nothing indicating it uses any special technology like the Eclipse or Sovereign classes do. They were able to maintain one of a kind, special technology test beds, but they can't keep ships makde with standard parts together? And its not like a ship sitting in orbit doing jack shit is gonna get alot of wear and tear here. Quit reaching.

Intimidator broke down long after the defection and was crewed by a far less then skeleton group that was not even largely composed of techs. Null point.

It was found later, there's nothing I know of that says when they lost it. The fact is that in two years they could easily have contacted the Imperial Rememnant.

Yet they chose not to. This indicates a choice on the part of the crew, not that the ship was on its last legs.

No, my argument is that the quote is in error and should be disregarded as false.

So in other words toss out one of the more important plot points of the novel rather than attempt to rationalize it?

Rationalization: Person thinking it was mistaken. Gee, that was hard.


I await your further twisting of facts in an attempt to justify an extremely weak position.

[FTeik]

44 ships larger than a Victory including three SSD were unaccounted for from the BlackSwordCommand. However, if i remember the novel correct, the Yevethans only got the imperial ships in the drydocks plus Intimidator.

The other two SSDs were probabely already called back or were never built in the first place. We had this topic in another thread some time ago.

Can anybody tell me, where the "Lusankya" destroyed the "Reaper"?

I know only the quotes from the EC and there it is only said, that the "Reaper" was lost (but not how) when Pellaeon tried to stop the NR-advances in the Antemeridian-Sector.

[Kuja]

Of course it existed. When did I say otherwise? I'm wondering how the hell the very top brass of the New Republic can be unaware of the fact they have a SSD.

It's called Need-To-Know Basis, Stormbringer. The Senate has repeatedly showed itself to be incapable of keeping even the most important secrets (Isard's Revenge, New Rebellion), and I find it likely that the military brass wouldn't want a bunch of blockheaded Senators blaring the fact that they're restoring an SSD across the galaxy.

[Kuja]

It is heavily implied by the NJO sourcebook. It doesn't come out and say it got a SL, but the exact passage is something like "though he has removed most of the weapons, Boster isn't worried. he always has a secret weapon up his sleave. His current one was installed after dealing with the Hutts. The Ship's techs whisper 'Darksaber', but Booster just says 'What secret weapon?'"

Oh, Jesus. What the fuck is wrong with EU authors? When some ragtag ISD captain is able to buy a supremely dangerous weapon off a bunch of Mafia godfathers, I cry bullshit.

[FTeik]

Of course it existed. When did I say otherwise? I'm wondering how the hell the very top brass of the New Republic can be unaware of the fact they have a SSD.

It's called Need-To-Know Basis, Stormbringer. The Senate has repeatedly showed itself to be incapable of keeping even the most important secrets (Isard's Revenge, New Rebellion), and I find it likely that the military brass wouldn't want a bunch of blockheaded Senators blaring the fact that they're restoring an SSD across the galaxy.

Possible.

But that Ackbar and Leia don´t seem to know about it ...

[Kerneth]

It is heavily implied by the NJO sourcebook. It doesn't come out and say it got a SL, but the exact passage is something like "though he has removed most of the weapons, Boster isn't worried. he always has a secret weapon up his sleave. His current one was installed after dealing with the Hutts. The Ship's techs whisper 'Darksaber', but Booster just says 'What secret weapon?'"

Oh, Jesus. What the fuck is wrong with EU authors? When some ragtag ISD captain is able to buy a supremely dangerous weapon off a bunch of Mafia godfathers, I cry bullshit.

Civilian ISD Captain, at that. While I have to admit to being amused by the notion of a civilian owned and operated ISD being used as a tourist ship, and while I realize such a vessel would need to be well armed for its own defense, I think having a freaking SUPERLASER mounted on it is a little excessive. Even if Booster has done the New Republic a few favors, that particular degree of armament is a tad much.

[phongn]

Well, it is wartime and the Republic is probably a bit lax on rules for civilian-owned vessels that are fighting alongside with them.

However, the Hutts did steal the plans for the superlaser in Darksaber, so it stands to reason that they could have easily sold them off and had it shrunk down and adapted for an ISD.

[Kuja]

Well, it is wartime and the Republic is probably a bit lax on rules for civilian-owned vessels that are fighting alongside with them.

However, the Hutts did steal the plans for the superlaser in Darksaber, so it stands to reason that they could have easily sold them off and had it shrunk down and adapted for an ISD.

And we all know what a great book Darksaber is, don't we.

[Stormbringer]

His choice not to use it as a flagship might be a personal one rather then a prestige one.

Fact: The Imperial Remnant has an SSD when they lack the ship builging capacity to construct one.
Fact: The Black Fleet contained 3 SSDs
Fact: There is no evidence the Yevetha lost or scrapped the other 2
Fact: Part of the Black Fleet joined the Imperial Remnant.

Our old friend Occam says that the Empire got atleast one of them.

I just showed you that there is another likely to be from the fleet.

So again the question becomes where the hell did they go? Why didn't the Empire ever make use of them?

Like what? Seriously, there is nothing indicating it uses any special technology like the Eclipse or Sovereign classes do. They were able to maintain one of a kind, special technology test beds, but they can't keep ships makde with standard parts together? And its not like a ship sitting in orbit doing jack shit is gonna get alot of wear and tear here. Quit reaching.

Oh, yes because they just parked them and never used them at any point. We don't know they would necessarily be able to duplicate hyperdrives, engines or whatever else of the scale of the Executor. The test beds were dreadnaught sized.

The fact that Intimidator turned out to be derelitic suggest their maitenance isn't the best.

Yet they chose not to. This indicates a choice on the part of the crew, not that the ship was on its last legs.

And who says that? You yourself said that vessels of the fleet did join the Rememnant.

Rationalization: Person thinking it was mistaken. Gee, that was hard.

So the Cheif of State and presumably the C-in-C forgot about their most powerful warship? That's ridiculous.

[Stormbringer]

It's called Need-To-Know Basis, Stormbringer. The Senate has repeatedly showed itself to be incapable of keeping even the most important secrets (Isard's Revenge, New Rebellion), and I find it likely that the military brass wouldn't want a bunch of blockheaded Senators blaring the fact that they're restoring an SSD across the galaxy.

But that doesn't change the fact that the guys in charge of the war and the Cheif of State didn't know. Do you think the Secretary of the Navy or the President completely forget about our carriers in a situation in which we desperately need it?

Occam's Razor:

1) They didn't consider it the equal of the Pride of Yevetha

2) They totally forgot about their very own Executor which would have easily countered the threat.

[Lonestar]

It's possible the Guardian is laid up still. The Lusankya should still be in action though. The skirmish with the Empire wasn't that significant from what we see. And given the moaning and groaning Leia did about how the had nothing to face the Pride I'd say it's a case of it being inferior to Imperial standard.

The Guardian is mentioned as the Vessel (in fact, the "SSD Guardian) that the new head of the NR is on During the Tarkin's Tooth Operation in Destiny's Way

[Audrie_Dawn]

It is heavily implied by the NJO sourcebook. It doesn't come out and say it got a SL, but the exact passage is something like "though he has removed most of the weapons, Boster isn't worried. he always has a secret weapon up his sleave. His current one was installed after dealing with the Hutts. The Ship's techs whisper 'Darksaber', but Booster just says 'What secret weapon?'"

Oh, Jesus. What the fuck is wrong with EU authors? When some ragtag ISD captain is able to buy a supremely dangerous weapon off a bunch of Mafia godfathers, I cry bullshit.

Civilian ISD Captain, at that. While I have to admit to being amused by the notion of a civilian owned and operated ISD being used as a tourist ship, and while I realize such a vessel would need to be well armed for its own defense, I think having a freaking SUPERLASER mounted on it is a little excessive. Even if Booster has done the New Republic a few favors, that particular degree of armament is a tad much.

Well, no one ever said it was a planet-cracker. Given that we see small superlasers on the LAATs in Episode II, Booster's Darksaber-like secret weapon is probably an axial-mount compound turbolaser that has a lot of punch, but not as good as the proper axial superlasers on the Eclipse and Sovereign class ships (much less the full size ones on the Death Stars).

[The Dark]

They would have just captured the Guardian and it would be in the drydocks for repairs, or they might not have gotten it yet (depends on which happened first that year). Either way they would have been limited to 1 at the time, and it was suppossedly involved in a campaing against the Empire.

According to the timeline presented in Wanted by Cracken and Adventure Journal #15, Guardian shouldn't be captured until 1 year after the Yevethan War. Pride of Yevetha is hijacked by the Imperial counter-conspiracy twelve years after Endor. WbC is 3 years after Endor, and AJ15 is 10 years after Cracken, meaning that Guardian is captured a year after Pride of Yevetha leaves Yevethan dew-claws. All the Republic had was Lusankya.

[JME2]

Wedge placed cannons from the Lusankya (though how a single ISD can hold many of the weapons on an Executor class is beyond me) on the Errant Venture.

Given the mincing pacifist nature of the New Republic it's possible the Lusankya was never refitted to full Executor-class levels. In the Black Fleet Crisis the NR dreads the confrontation with the Yevethan SSD because they had nothing to match it. That seems to me to be evidence that the New Republic never repaired any of it's SSD's to Imperial standards.

True - it took them almost four years to get Lusankya back in action after the Bacta War.

[Kuja]

But that doesn't change the fact that the guys in charge of the war and the Cheif of State didn't know. Do you think the Secretary of the Navy or the President completely forget about our carriers in a situation in which we desperately need it?

THEY NEVER KNEW IN THE FIRST PLACE. Cracken's rumor about her being scrapped must have been circulated up to the highest levels. Correct me if I am wrong, but since Cracken was the only General on the scene in Bacta War, he might well have had jurisdiction over what happened to the Lusankya (once Wedge and Co. took off, of course) Since only a small amount of Rep forces were in the area, (Pash's A-wings) some easily-bribed civvies (Karrde and Booster) and some surrendered Imps (Virulence) it probably wasn't all the difficult to make the ship just disappear under red tape.

Think about it: why was the Lusankya being refitted at Bilbringi, of all places, rather than Kuat, or Corellia, or Fondor, each of which has the capacity to build Executor-class ships? Because while there, it was more easily kept secret than at any other dock. Those serving aboard her could have been sworn to secrecy, which might explain why General Antilles shows up in command of the ship time and again: he already knew about it.

As to the fight with the Yevetha, my bet is that with such a touchy political situation (the Senate strikes again )the Reps didn't want to go in with an enourmous amount of men and materiel, elst they appears as bad as the Empire. As for Cracken himself, he may have been holding the Lusankya in reserve, in case the attack force got into trouble., Thanks to Luke and the phantom fleet, the Lusankya was never needed.

Occam's Razor:

1) They didn't consider it the equal of the Pride of Yevetha

2) They totally forgot about their very own Executor which would have easily countered the threat.

Your logic is shaky. If they didn't consider the Lusankya able to haul off against the PoY, why did they still hold her back? Why did they send a host of even weaker ships to fight and die at the hands of an SSD, when throwing the Lusankya in would make the force even stronger?

Both points one and two fall apart. However, this one stands:

3. The top brass never knew that the Lusankya had been rebuilt, and Cracken held her in reserve as a failsafe.

[Kuja]

Civilian ISD Captain, at that. While I have to admit to being amused by the notion of a civilian owned and operated ISD being used as a tourist ship, and while I realize such a vessel would need to be well armed for its own defense, I think having a freaking SUPERLASER mounted on it is a little excessive. Even if Booster has done the New Republic a few favors, that particular degree of armament is a tad much.

Well, no one ever said it was a planet-cracker. Given that we see small superlasers on the LAATs in Episode II, Booster's Darksaber-like secret weapon is probably an axial-mount compound turbolaser that has a lot of punch, but not as good as the proper axial superlasers on the Eclipse and Sovereign class ships (much less the full size ones on the Death Stars).

It's still a state-of-the-art military weapon that's been stolen by a bunch of gangsters and sold off to a ragtag pirate ship. Idiocy.

I swear, if we see the Venture use a superlaser to destroy a planet or even a Worldcraft, I'll never buy another SW novel.