DONT BRING CHILDREN TO KILL BILL!

[Chardok]

Here's my thoughts on kids and R rated movies: (and inappropriate behavior)

When I was growing up, I lived a very sanitized life. My mom never cussed around me, never let me see "Bad" movies (Aliens and the like) And so, when I finally was exposed to it, at age 12 or so (Kids cussing, thinking the word fuck was the funniest thing ever invented) I latched on because it was just so damned COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Enter Ariel. (My daughter) when she was very young I would watch R rated movies with her (YEs even south park) and when an "Objectionable" part came on, I would simply explain to her that this was not appropriate behavior. or that that wasn't real, it was only pretend, and just a movie. She accepted this explaination without question, and never once has she cussed (Except saying dammit, and even then she was only telling me "Daddy, don't Say Dimmit!!" (just like that...so cute)
The way I see it, if there's no shock value to the movies when she gets older (And inappropriate behavior by other kids) She won't think it's so neat, and "Taboo", and will hopefully shrug her shoulders and say "Meh." See that? I'm messing with her head, playing on kids natural tendencies to rebel....I'll let you all know how it turns out!

[Companion Cube]

The funniest instance was when i saw the South Park movie in theatres. A mom with her two children, about 5 or 6 years old or so was sitting a little bit off from us. She promptly left when the "Uncle Fucker" song began--while castising her children, who were singing it as they left! "shut your fucking face uncle fucker..."

Heh. Another two souls irretrievably corrupted.

[Tsyroc]

Frankly, I wouldn't let children into any shows that stat after 10:00 PM anyway ("Go watch Spongebob or something, kid, the adults want to have fun now"), .

I'll second that. I would also add that if you are an adult at a movie try and act like it. I've been at late movies thinking it'll be good because it'll only be adults and everyone will be there to see the movie. Not only did someone bring their kids and make 3 trips to the lobby in the first 30 minutes of the movie there were 3 guys in front of me that wouldn't shut up or stop making stupid comments (apparently they though Nightcrawler was funny in X-2).

If you want to go to a movie an give it the MST treatment wait until it hits the dollar cinema and then you should have the decency to respect the fact that not everyone is paying to be dazzled by your wit.

[Peregrin Toker]

(insert mention of "Cannibal The Musical")

[Seele]

All this reminds me of when me and a friend went to see Matrix Reloaded, and in one of the seats down from us we saw this guy with his i think was 8 year old son. The rave scene and every scene where people kissed, he covered the boy's eyes. But didn't bat an eyelid during all the scenes of violence. I really wanted to catch him as he was leaving the theater to ask him why he did that but my friend told me that would be a bad idea.

[Utsanomiko]

All this reminds me of when me and a friend went to see Matrix Reloaded, and in one of the seats down from us we saw this guy with his i think was 8 year old son. The rave scene and every scene where people kissed, he covered the boy's eyes. But didn't bat an eyelid during all the scenes of violence. I really wanted to catch him as he was leaving the theater to ask him why he did that but my friend told me that would be a bad idea.

Yep, a kid's gotta learn someday it's a fact of life that everyone wants to beat the life out of eachother, but heaven forbid he finds out where babies come from.

[HemlockGrey]

Of course, I've never had any problem watching violent or explicit movies, even when I'm theoretically not supposed to. I figure; if I could see Gladiator in 6th grade and my little sister can see the Godfather in 4th grade, I can sure as hell handle Kill Bill at age fourteen.

[Lord Pounder]

There is a simple soultion for kids who attend adult rated movies, a stun gun to use on them. I was at the cinema on Saturday, went to see the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I was really looking forward to it. I spent the whole movie having the back of my chair kicked and getting a running comentary on the movie from a couple of 10 year olds. I asked them if them minded they replied not at all. I informed them that if they kicked my chair once more i'd kick them in the face and i get other cinema goers yapping at me for threatening kids.

[Gandalf]

Sometimes the talkers can be good for laughs. When I saw LXG, there was a funny idiot next to me. In the part where the tank bursts through the wall, one of the redshirts on screen asks what that is, and the guy next to me goes "Duh, a tank". I laughed for about a minute. No-one else found that funny. (Tanks weren't invented until 1916)

[TrailerParkJawa]

I'll second that. I would also add that if you are an adult at a movie try and act like it. I've been at late movies thinking it'll be good because it'll only be adults and everyone will be there to see the movie. Not only did someone bring their kids and make 3 trips to the lobby in the first 30 minutes of the movie there were 3 guys in front of me that wouldn't shut up or stop making stupid comments (apparently they though Nightcrawler was funny in X-2).

If you want to go to a movie an give it the MST treatment wait until it hits the dollar cinema and then you should have the decency to respect the fact that not everyone is paying to be dazzled by your wit.

I found that matinee's on weekdays are usually devoid of children and annoying movie goers. However, viewing a movie at that time is not easy when you have an M-F 8-5 schedule.

[justifier]

Little kids aren't the only trouble makers though. I recently saw a movie with my mom, who is always on her goddamn cell phone. At about the last preview before the movie her phone rings, she picks up and starts talking. She keeps talking (loudly) and obviously for something that can wait (ie-gossip) until about a minute into the actual movie, by this time people are looking at her and I have to get her attention to get her quiet. So little kiddies aren't your only theater concern

[Tsyroc]

I found that matinee's on weekdays are usually devoid of children and annoying movie goers. However, viewing a movie at that time is not easy when you have an M-F 8-5 schedule.

That works great during the school year. Which is part of the reason I recently got my schedule changed so I work Wednesday-Sunday, plus I work nights.

I went and saw Kill Bill vol. I yesterday at 11:50 and there were 3 other people in the theater with me.

[Tsyroc]

Little kids aren't the only trouble makers though. I recently saw a movie with my mom, who is always on her goddamn cell phone. At about the last preview before the movie her phone rings, she picks up and starts talking. She keeps talking (loudly) and obviously for something that can wait (ie-gossip) until about a minute into the actual movie, by this time people are looking at her and I have to get her attention to get her quiet. So little kiddies aren't your only theater concern

Geez, since it was your mom you had the perfect opportunity to do what eveyr movie goer dreams of doing. Snatch that thing out of her hand and shut it off.

By the way, has everyone seen that little clip with the two Moose from Brother Bear? It starts off with a dark screen and has all these coughing, phone ringing, popcorn munching sound-effects bouncing around the theater. It's pretty good, plus the two Moose remind me of the Macenzie brothers.

[Alferd Packer]

The violence to Kill Bill isn't what is so horrible for kids, I think. True, it's extreme, but it's so over-the-top and comical that I don't think a kid seeing it would be a huge tragedy. What would really prevent me from taking a kid to Kill Bill would be the sexual stuff; you know, the brief pedophilia, "my name is buck"...

I disagree about the violence. The problem is, in my estimation, that while the violence is so over the top, children have no way of knowing that's intentionally so. They don't know that blood doesn't spray out of someone in a wide arc from a slash across the chest. They don't get the humor of something so absurd, so all that's left to impress upon them is the trauma factor of people getting killed by the dozens, even if they are recognized as bad guys.

Furthermore, not only is the violence shown, but the aftermath as well. After Uma finishes her killing spree, we're treated to a nice wide shot of the blood-drenched restaurant, complete with the dying screaming in pain. To an adult, who understands the comical nuance Tarantino was going for, this is no great thing. I submit that a child, however, sees only the carnage and is unable to appreciate the ludicrous humor present. To me, that's missing the whole point of the scene.

Kill Bill is a film made solely for adults. Nowhere is the speech dumbed down for children(even when Uma's adressing the little girl after killing her mother), and to my knowledge nowhere is a 'lesser' curse word substituted (heck for hell, crap for shit, etc.). And, as you mentioned, the perverted sexual themes are totally inappropriate for children. I don't see how any element of the movie is any more or less appropriate for children than any other.

[Vertigo1]

Arrrrrgh! You know, I just have to get this off my chest. WTF ? Are some parents thinking. Some guy brought very young kids, under 10 probably around 6 or 7 to Kill Bill. Of course they sit right behind me and talk the whole time. But that isnt the worst part, this movie was not for children in any sense. Aiiyaa!

You're talking about the same bunch that would take babies to see Freddy.....

Ya know, if you can't find someone to babysit your kid then make it a fucking blockbuster night and save us with lives from hearing your stupid brat's crying.

[TrailerParkJawa]

By the way, has everyone seen that little clip with the two Moose from Brother Bear? It starts off with a dark screen and has all these coughing, phone ringing, popcorn munching sound-effects bouncing around the theater. It's pretty good, plus the two Moose remind me of the Macenzie brothers.

Yeah, thats who they sounded like, eh.
They played that little clip when I saw Kill Bill.[/i]

[The Yosemite Bear]

Erm, remember all those Rodger Corman & Hammer Horror films that still have like PG-13 and R ratings? I saw them all when I was a kid, I even saw the really NASTY version of Frankenstine that came out in the 1970's (erm that's an NR/NC-17 pic if you want to find it on video/DVD)

now I may be damaged but I am not Ted Bundy (Ok for a while in high school I was Bud Bundy but that's different.)

[Solid Snake]

I was never bothered by violence. I can only remember two times. In a Jaws movie where the guys arm got bitten off on Christmas. (I felt bad for him) and when the arms dealer's arm ( ) got blown off in The Jackel. That's about it.

Oh yes, for me: fingernails coming off=bad. Like in Texas Chainsaw Massacre where the kid's nails come off for digging his fingernails into the concrete walls while leatherface is carrying him.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

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I totally agree with you there, Alf. While I might have been a little sensitive as a kid, rather intense violence was very scary for me, up until I was probably 11 or 12. I have not seen Kill Bill myself yet, but I can guarentee that if I saw it as a kid, it would have been terrifying by what I've heard Uts and you describe. There is no way that I could have been able to handle it, absurdly fake or not. To many little kids, violence is not pleasent to see.

[Tsyroc]

Erm, remember all those Rodger Corman & Hammer Horror films that still have like PG-13 and R ratings? I saw them all when I was a kid, I even saw the really NASTY version of Frankenstine that came out in the 1970's (erm that's an NR/NC-17 pic if you want to find it on video/DVD)

now I may be damaged but I am not Ted Bundy (Ok for a while in high school I was Bud Bundy but that's different.)

I haven't seen it but aren't you refering to the Frankenstein movie that Andy Warhol made? He also made a Dracula flick and I think both of them got X ratings at the time.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Yup that's the one, I also saw his Dracula too....

yup they were rated X at the time, but are now consider NC-17 or Not Rated....

ah the glories of Drive in Flims with my mom....

[TrailerParkJawa]

Yup that's the one, I also saw his Dracula too....

yup they were rated X at the time, but are now consider NC-17 or Not Rated....

ah the glories of Drive in Flims with my mom....

What makes them deserve an X rating? Please say sex......

[The Yosemite Bear]

Erm, some full frontal, but mostly it's the trowing the naked girl down the well at the opening scene and the sound that the body makes as it hits the sides of the well....

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Yup that's the one, I also saw his Dracula too....

yup they were rated X at the time, but are now consider NC-17 or Not Rated....

ah the glories of Drive in Flims with my mom....

What makes them deserve an X rating? Please say sex......

From what I've read, as I have no desire to see such obvious trash (and because I fucking hate Worhol), it's mainly because of extremely graphic violence and gore.

[Tsyroc]

From what I've read, as I have no desire to see such obvious trash (and because I fucking hate Worhol), it's mainly because of extremely graphic violence and gore.

Can't say that I have any desire to see the films either.