The Plan for the World sheriat by Hizb-ut-Tahir.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-30 08:13pm

Allahuackbar!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-30 08:14pm

Hrmm. It appears that titles do not like the Ş symbol. That should be an Sh, then.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-30 08:15pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Hrmm. It appears that titles do not like the Ş symbol. That should be an Sh, then.

Fixed it for you, Duchess

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-10-30 08:17pm

Colonel Olrik wrote: Fixed it for you, Duchess

Thank you. The closest transliteration I can provide is "Şeriat", but as it turns out the board is not formatted to handle that in the title space, so Sheriat works best next...

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-10-30 08:22pm

If non-Muslim countries refused to pay the tax, the caliphate would launch military attacks against them.

Muahahaha. Someone's forgetting who has the big guns, and who does not.

Amusing read

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-10-30 08:44pm

Nothing new, but amusing nonetheless.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-10-30 08:53pm

Colonel Olrik wrote: Muahahaha. Someone's forgetting who has the big guns, and who does not.

Amusing read

I always loved the quote "whatever happens, we have the Maxim gun and they have not."

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-10-30 09:10pm

Wow, this guy makes that Anti-Porn guy look moderate...

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-10-30 09:35pm

That, ladies and gentlemen, is why they say that Talk is cheap. Cuz it is. Go Mudflation!

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-30 10:21pm

Oh those silly fucks.

I'd love to kill them all slowly just to see them cower in fear as they realize their deluded little dream of oppression has no chance of coming true.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-10-31 12:32am

Heh, funny. I quake in fear of an organization that only has a few thousand members and even the countries it's based in throw them in jail.

LT.Hit-Man · Post by **LT.Hit-Man** » 2003-10-31 01:28am

So that's how stole all my crack that I had laced with LSD

Post by **Coyote** » 2003-10-31 04:21am

Funny-- they don't even confront the Sunni-Shia'a split. They talk of 'adherents of the four Muadhabs', which would include Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i, and Wahhabi, but totally sidestep the Shia'a issue. Those spineless cowards! If they cannot even decide who gets precedence over the Caliphate (direct descendants of the Prophet or the most observant individual regardless of pedigree) then they are just another bunch of wankers.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-10-31 05:18am

If Islam accepts the Bible as a legitimate religious work, that means the Koran can be summed up in 6 words "Here's some more commandments, I forgot."

Why is it that none of the major religions are cool? The New age stuff is a revival of paganism, and Islam and Mormonism (with the revealing angel named Moroni, very appropriate) are of the "more commandments" variety.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-31 11:13am

Setzer wrote:If Islam accepts the Bible as a legitimate religious work, that means the Koran can be summed up in 6 words "Here's some more commandments, I forgot."

How is that any more unreasonable than "I sent part of myself to Earth so that I could sacrifice myself to myself in order to appease myself and then sit at the right hand of myself in Heaven?"

Why is it that none of the major religions are cool? The New age stuff is a revival of paganism, and Islam and Mormonism (with the revealing angel named Moroni, very appropriate) are of the "more commandments" variety.

On the contrary, paganism is quite cool. Many pagan traditions involve orgies. Straight orgies, not Catholic-style gay pedophilic stuff.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-10-31 11:21am

Why do you pay attention to this ? Hizb-ut-Tahir is obviously out of their minds, they are no more threat than an unarmed racoon. No body even knows them. I am a muslim and even I have never heard of them.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-10-31 11:40am

Setzer wrote:If Islam accepts the Bible as a legitimate religious work, that means the Koran can be summed up in 6 words "Here's some more commandments, I forgot."

Why is it that none of the major religions are cool? The New age stuff is a revival of paganism, and Islam and Mormonism (with the revealing angel named Moroni, very appropriate) are of the "more commandments" variety.

What is your problem various religions having more than just the Bible? Even your most ignorant fundie doesn't believe that "God's holy word" just descended out of heaven one day. It was a compilation of works spanning several centuries. That very fact proves that the Bible itself is (to use your terms) "more commandments, I forgot"

Did Jesus "forget" to dictate the Revelation given to John while he was alive? Why do we need 39 books in the OT when God could have just given everything to Moses (or who ever it was that really wrote the first five books)?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-10-31 11:47am

evilcat4000 wrote:Why do you pay attention to this ? Hizb-ut-Tahir is obviously out of their minds, they are no more threat than an unarmed racoon. No body even knows them. I am a muslim and even I have never heard of them.

I thought that Hizb-ut-Tahrir were quite a large organization worldwide - in Denmark they've definately gotten a lot of attention since a year or two ago.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-31 12:18pm

Theres nothing wrong with gay orgies Mike! We get more buttsex then you! ;D

AniThyng · Post by **AniThyng** » 2003-10-31 12:21pm

i'd love to see how they try to stomp "pagan" China

Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2003-10-31 12:48pm

You do know a significant number of the ethnic minorities over there are Muslim, right? Not to mention the non-fundamentalist half-Pakistani's.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-10-31 01:06pm

Darth Wong wrote:How is that any more unreasonable than "I sent part of myself to Earth so that I could sacrifice myself to myself in order to appease myself and then sit at the right hand of myself in Heaven?"

Christian theology has a tendancy to be rather mind-bogglin, which is probably why Arius and others revolted against the concept of the Trinity: it made no sense to him.

AniThyng · Post by **AniThyng** » 2003-10-31 01:11pm

You do know a significant number of the ethnic minorities over there are Muslim, right? Not to mention the non-fundamentalist half-Pakistani's.

huh? me?

er..yes. i know that. but the vast majority of Han Chinese are most certainly not. heck, they took the trouble to name buddism in particular. and then let's not mention Taoism...

i mean, the PRC has it's faults, but islam trying to make an enemy of China and non-muslim Chinese everywhere is absurd...

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-10-31 01:43pm

Darth Wong wrote: How is that any more unreasonable than "I sent part of myself to Earth so that I could sacrifice myself to myself in order to appease myself and then sit at the right hand of myself in Heaven?"

The spirit of God can be described like the spirit of this webboard. We all sort of let our hair down and talk about stuff we wouldn't do normally.

In a similar vein, Jehovah and Jesus can both be part of the spirit of God and be seperate beings.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-10-31 03:23pm

Setzer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:How is that any more unreasonable than "I sent part of myself to Earth so that I could sacrifice myself to myself in order to appease myself and then sit at the right hand of myself in Heaven?"
The spirit of God can be described like the spirit of this webboard. We all sort of let our hair down and talk about stuff we wouldn't do normally.

Sorry, but while you may act differently on the board than you do face-to-face, you're still the same person.

In a similar vein, Jehovah and Jesus can both be part of the spirit of God and be seperate beings.

And how does this explain the nonsensical idea of sacrificing himself to himself in order to appease himself so that he may sit by himself in Heaven? Take whatever analogy you want, and it doesn't work. If Jesus is part of God, it doesn't work. If Jesus and God are separate beings who are joined in a sort of collective, it still doesn't work (if you're pissed at people, why would you let them kill one of your buddies in order to make you feel better?).

I say again: the New Testament is no more of a reasonable addition to the Old Testament than the Koran is.