Lileks disses Michael Moore!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-10-31 08:03pm

Patrick Degan wrote: Except your personal opinion doesn't count for dick. It's the definition of the law that counts. Period.

Hmm, I seem to recall him being the first President impeached
in over 170+ years or so....

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-10-31 08:14pm

... On a totally partisan vote in the House.

The GOP couldn't muster enough votes in the Senate to railroad Clinton on partisan lines, and they knew their "evidence" wouldn't stand up to the light of reason, so they went for a censure instead, which has dick-all effect on the president's ability to run the country.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-10-31 08:29pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote: Except your personal opinion doesn't count for dick. It's the definition of the law that counts. Period.
Hmm, I seem to recall him being the first President impeached
in over 170+ years or so....

Yes, and that other impeachment, in 1869, was bullshit as well. Your point...?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-10-31 08:31pm

It's unfortunate that Nixon wasn't man enough to stick around and take what was coming to him, and it's more unfortunate that Ford pardoned him.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-10-31 09:42pm

Iceberg wrote:It's unfortunate that Nixon wasn't man enough to stick around and take what was coming to him, and it's more unfortunate that Ford pardoned him.

Nixon wasn't doing anything more than any other politician at the time. He was just unfortunate enough to get caught.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-10-31 09:47pm

The Dark wrote:
Iceberg wrote:It's unfortunate that Nixon wasn't man enough to stick around and take what was coming to him, and it's more unfortunate that Ford pardoned him.
Nixon wasn't doing anything more than any other politician at the time. He was just unfortunate enough to get caught.

And you think most Presidents aren't banging a few people behind closed doors?

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-10-31 09:51pm

SirNitram wrote:
The Dark wrote:
Iceberg wrote:It's unfortunate that Nixon wasn't man enough to stick around and take what was coming to him, and it's more unfortunate that Ford pardoned him.
Nixon wasn't doing anything more than any other politician at the time. He was just unfortunate enough to get caught.
And you think most Presidents aren't banging a few people behind closed doors?

Oh, most likely. Kennedy certainly was. I feel neither Clinton nor Nixon deserve the demonization that they tend to receive from certain parties. Most people tend to polarize heavily to one side or the other when talking about politicians: Washington was a great man, Lincoln one step down from a god, Kennedy had his Camelot, Clinton or Bush the Second (depending on which party one is) happens to be the greatest evil ever spawned. It's ridiculous to go that far in hatred and just sheer ornery.