WASHINGTON -- In a rare alliance, strategists for John Edwards, Dick Gephardt and John Kerry discussed whether they could stop the Service Employees International Union from endorsing fellow Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean.
The union, the largest in the AFL-CIO with 1.6 million members, announced last week that its 63-member board would decide Thursday whether to endorse the former Vermont governor. "It's Dean or one," said SEIU spokeswoman Sara Howard.
The announcement prompted top aides to Edwards, Gephardt and Kerry to convene a conference call during which they discussed whether Dean's endorsement could be blocked.
They're flailing. The Washington outsider is building momentum and they're hard pressed to stop it. Unless the Dean campaign falls apart in the next few months, they're going to get spanked in the early primaries. And then the Republicans are going to lose what would have been their chief advantage aside from being incumbent: a long, drawn out, bloody primary season for the Democrats.
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963 X-Ray Blues
let the partisan self destruction begin!! throw as much mud as possible at the party's strongest candidate! way to go boys. Theski, have you heard the latest stories on Dean? Evidently, he like Bush was a hell of a drinker in his prep school and college days. so much so that he had to quit drinking after his batchelor party.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
Six of the nine leading Democratic presidential contenders showed up in Des Moines Wednesday for a little pandering to senior citizens. Howard Dean, Richard Gephardt, John Kerry, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich and Carol Moseley Braun spoke at a two-hour forum sponsored by AARP, the nation's largest old folks" lobby.
and the best by far...
Two other observations from Wednesday's event:
* Winners: Gephardt and Kerry. The two were forceful, informed and presidential- looking.
* Ultimate panderer: Dean. The former Vermont governor once referred to "us rural people" during his remarks. Right. (Born to a wealthy family in small-town New York City, Dean attended that one-room prep school, St. Georges in Rhode Island, before donning his manure-caked boots and heading to that great land-grant college, Yale.)
St. Georges? In Newport? So i'm figuring Dean went to prep school in the mid to late 60's....and at that time Newport had a population of like 60,000 not counting the population of the Navy base. Which at the time was the command center for the Atlantic destroyer fleet. Hardly a shit kickin' country-bumpkin town. Let me tell you something about Newport. There are more bars in that city than there are houses. Big fucking expensive bars with marinas and snotty rich kids drinking gin and tonics and 18 year old scotch.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
I don't even understand the candidate choosing system. I hear the pundits blather about it all day and I don't know what the hell they're talking about. What the hell's a primary? Why must so and so win this or that state? All very confusing if you ask me.
(if you've played Vice City, read out aloud in Maurice Chavez from Vice City Public Radio accent)
Well, like right now there are somewhat like 9 people trying to become the chief Democrat to face off aganst Bush. So the Democrats have to narrow it down to one champion with a vice-pres.
A Primary is a series of elections in a few states where only the Democrats vote amongst themselves to see who their champion will be. The Republicans would be doing the same thing if they were challenging a sitting Dem president.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:Well, like right now there are somewhat like 9 people trying to become the chief Democrat to face off aganst Bush. So the Democrats have to narrow it down to one champion with a vice-pres.
A Primary is a series of elections in a few states where only the Democrats vote amongst themselves to see who their champion will be. The Republicans would be doing the same thing if they were challenging a sitting Dem president.
the primary process is bullshit machine politics nonsense. the state primaries are spread out. the later ones man nothing. all but one candidate drops out before the party conventions anyway. i think all the primaries should be one one day, winner takes the nomination. not the convoluted bullshit we have now.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
Coyote wrote:Well, like right now there are somewhat like 9 people trying to become the chief Democrat to face off aganst Bush. So the Democrats have to narrow it down to one champion with a vice-pres.
A Primary is a series of elections in a few states where only the Democrats vote amongst themselves to see who their champion will be. The Republicans would be doing the same thing if they were challenging a sitting Dem president.
the primary process is bullshit machine politics nonsense. the state primaries are spread out. the later ones man nothing. all but one candidate drops out before the party conventions anyway. i think all the primaries should be one one day, winner takes the nomination. not the convoluted bullshit we have now.
Agreed. New Jersey's primary is in June, well after the presidential nomination has been decided. Just put all the primaries on March 15 or something and be done with it. Or go back to the old days where the nominations were decided in the convention. Not this shit where SOME of the voters get to decide who the nominee is going to be and SOME of them wait until the decision has already been made to vote.
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963 X-Ray Blues
Theski, have you heard the latest stories on Dean? Evidently, he like Bush was a hell of a drinker in his prep school and college days. so much so that he had to quit drinking after his batchelor party.
