Stupid Prank or Attempted Murder

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-11-05 01:56pm

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-11-05 02:01pm

No prank. Hydrochloric acid is deadly stuff.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-11-05 02:02pm

Stupid students thinking how funny it would be to put acid in their teacher's drink, without thinking of the possible consequences.

They should still be charged with attempted murder.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-11-05 02:15pm

Attempted murder, no high school student could be so stupid that he'd try to spike a teachers drink with Hydrochloric acid as a prank.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-11-05 02:17pm

Sir Sirius wrote:Attempted murder, no high school student could be so stupid that he'd try to spike a teachers drink with Hydrochloric acid as a prank.

I don't know. There are some really fucking stupid people out there.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-11-05 02:27pm

charge their ass, stupidity is not a defense. People need to be responsible for their actions.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-11-05 04:16pm

They knew that putting Hydrochloric Acid would hurt her in some way. They should be charged with attempted murder.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-11-05 04:24pm

I still remember the cheerleader who thought it would be cute to pour that shit into the crotch of her ex, and missed and it wound up in my crotch, (I ran very fast to the baking soda tend, and had to get new pants & undies sent to the high school.

Her response "I thought it was just water"

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-11-05 04:47pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:I still remember the cheerleader who thought it would be cute to pour that shit into the crotch of her ex, and missed and it wound up in my crotch, (I ran very fast to the baking soda tend, and had to get new pants & undies sent to the high school.

Her response "I thought it was just water"

Should make her take a sip, see what type of water it really is.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-11-05 04:54pm

Why this happened Eighteen years ago...

oh that reminds me, I need to log off for a while, and chat with the alumni association...

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-11-05 05:05pm

Just heard an update on the story,fuckheads claimed they wanted to know if this would disolved a styrofoam cup.

Yeah right i believe you.

Sothis · Post by **Sothis** » 2003-11-05 05:36pm

If the plead stupidity as a defence then a fitting punishment should be to section them under the Mental Health Act.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-11-05 05:40pm

Death from the Sea wrote:charge their ass, stupidity is not a defense. People need to be responsible for their actions.

Actually, when it comes to attempted murder, stupidity IS a defense. Attempted murder means they had to be trying to kill the teacher, otherwise it is reckless endangerment.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-11-05 05:56pm

I don't know.. You can drink diluted hydrochloric no problem, stomach acid is hydrochloric, after all. But anything above ~2Mol HCl and you're risking some painfulness. Above 6Mol HCl it's really dangerous.

On a similar note, soda's use phosphoric acid in their drinks. Pure phosphoric acid would eat through you, but diluted it's safe.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-11-05 07:40pm

Reckless Endangerment, if it can be proved they were 'just pranking'.

Stupid idiot kids.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-11-05 07:49pm

kojikun wrote:I don't know.. You can drink diluted hydrochloric no problem, stomach acid is hydrochloric, after all. But anything above ~2Mol HCl and you're risking some painfulness. Above 6Mol HCl it's really dangerous.

Stomach acid is also on the order of 0.01M concentration. I'm fairly sure than even 1M HCl will cause some serious issues with your esophagus if you tried ingesting it.

On a similar note, soda's use phosphoric acid in their drinks. Pure phosphoric acid would eat through you, but diluted it's safe.

Yes, but comparing HCl and H3PO4 is somewhat specious. HCl is 9X as potent as H3PO4.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-11-05 07:50pm

Plus the HCL in your stomach is neutralised by soda if it gets a bit naughty. You can still dissolve an iron nail in the stuff.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-11-05 10:19pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Plus the HCL in your stomach is neutralised by soda if it gets a bit naughty. You can still dissolve an iron nail in the stuff.

Unfortunately for me I have to go on Zantac every so often to stop my stomach from producing too much acid (which wanders down to the intestines and causes all sorts of fun issues).

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2003-11-05 10:45pm

Charge'em. Anyone with even basic chemistry lab experience *should* have a healthy respect for that stuff.

Last time I checked, if you need to wear gloves and goggles when handling most of the stuff from an area (chem lab) that anything from said area has no business in someone's food... Definately a deliberate attempt to harm the teacher in one form or another.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-11-05 11:35pm

Charged and sent away. They knew good and well that this was potentially deadly and need to take responsibility for their actions. That is what is problem wtih the world, people don't have to face serious repercussions for their stupid actions.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-05 11:41pm

These kids knew where the hydrochloric acid was and how to identify it, which means they're taking chemistry classes. Ergo, they know how dangerous hydrochloric acid is, and they were deliberately attempting to harm the teacher.

While a case for attempted murder might be difficult to make (one would have to show that the concentration was potentially lethal and that they knew this), a case for reckless endangerment would be easy.

Grand Admiral Ancaris · Post by **Grand Admiral Ancaris** » 2003-11-06 12:29pm

Freaking A. Despite how much I see shit like this in the news nowadays I still find it hard to believe. This was a deliberate, premeditated act. Charge them with attempted murder in the first degree and throw the book at them. They should never see the light of day again.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-11-06 10:44pm

They should be charged with something far above the level of a prank. They intended to do serious harm.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-06 10:48pm

That's attempted murder. The effects of HCL should be known to anyone at or below a middle school level.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-11-07 12:00am

Darth Wong wrote:These kids knew where the hydrochloric acid was and how to identify it, which means they're taking chemistry classes. Ergo, they know how dangerous hydrochloric acid is, and they were deliberately attempting to harm the teacher.

No, not necessarily. They don't have to be taking a chemistry class. They could've heard about HCl from maybe TV, media, literature.. whatever and it could've probably been easily found in the chemistry classroom. Doesn't necessarily mean they're taking chemistry. Though at that age.. I'm not sure how it works in Canada.. would they be taking Biology or Chemistry? Here in the states I believe around that age you'd be taking Biology and then Chemistry later..

However, either a) They're incredibly fucking stupid or b) Attempted murder or at least intent to cause harm (or whatever equivalent).