which is more hypocritical?

[RayCav of ASVS]

Pro-choice people against the dealth penalty

or

Pro-life people in favor of the death penalty

Another thing I've been thinking of lately.

[Stormbringer]

Pro-choice people against the dealth penalty. The death penalty is used on deserving criminals whereas abortion is against a person that is completely innocent. How can they actually say that the life of criminal is worth more than that of a of an innocent child.

Pro-life and pro death penalty is not necessarily hypcritical. As said before, the death penalty is for a deserving criminal whereas abortion kills a complete innocent.

[Enlightenment]

Someone close this thread before it turns into a flamefest.

[RayCav of ASVS]

I was hoping this WON'T become a flamefest. But if any of the mods think otherwise, feel free...

[Stormbringer]

Someone close this thread before it turns into a flamefest.

Why not wait until it actually happens? It could produce rather interesting debate.

[C.S.Strowbridge]

I don't think either is hypocritical. If you think it's hypocritical you are comparing rapists and murderers with unborn children, feteuses, embyoys or whatever you want to call them.

You must see how stupid that is.

[Edi]

Abortion and the death penalty are not even remotely similar issues. Your question is completely useless and will only inflame tempers. See the abortion thread once my answer there is up.

Edi

[Mr Bean]

Indeed,

But the Aboraition depabate itself is better served to be kept to another thread.

The best response I use for anti-Aborition fokes is this, Give them a Hi Five, then kindly inform them they just killed more Cells than are in the avarage human child during the first three months after conception
Its not true but it makes a heck-ave a good point

[Stormbringer]

Indeed,

But the Aboraition depabate itself is better served to be kept to another thread.

The best response I use for anti-Aborition fokes is this, Give them a Hi Five, then kindly inform them they just killed more Cells than are in the avarage human child during the first three months after conception
Its not true but it makes a heck-ave a good point

So lying in a debate is how YOU win mr bean? It'd be a good point if true but it isn't.

[Mr Bean]

So lying in a debate is how YOU win mr bean? It'd be a good point if true but it isn't.

The fact is the Hi-Five does not kill as many as you think but if one must minse points I'd be happy to switch over to the older, Thumb in a lighter flame example

The point is valid even if that particlar example does not kill as many cells as you think

Or another example, Ever brushed your teeth? In five mintues of brushing you kill more that way

Ever exist for a single day? Kill more that way too

[Nick]

Someone already pointed out that the analogy is flawed, but I'll give a specific counter-example.

Whether the views are hypocritical depends on how people view the status of an embryo. Some see it as a human with all associated rights, some see it as a ball of cells with the interesting property that it could become a human granting it a few rights, but, in general, leaving it well and truly subordinate to the rights of the mother.

Someone holding the latter view (such as myself) can quite easily be pro-choice, while opposing the death penalty (I view the small chance that an innocent individual may be falsely convicted and executed as far too high a price to pay for the dubious benefit of declaring certain individuals unfit to live. The use of the death penalty is a sign of ultimate societal failure - it is saying "You are worthless to us. We can learn nothing from interacting with you. Rather than trying to understand you, and the course of your life that lead to you becoming what you are, we are just going to disclaim all responsibility, kill you, and try to forget you ever existed. Your existence makes us uncomfortable, and we would prefer not to think about the fact of your existence.")

Yeah, I'm a hypocrite all right.

[Nick]

Oh, and I agree with Stormbringer that making the distinction between the innocence of the purported child, and the adjudged guilt of the executed adult means it is possible to hold the opposing views to mine without being a hypocrite either.

(Wrong, but not a hypocrite )