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Matrix Box Ofice down 45% from Reloaded

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'Matrix Revolutions' tops box office
Monday, November 10, 2003 Posted: 7:59 AM EST (1259 GMT)



"The Matrix Revolutions" made 45 percent less in its opening weekend than its predecessor, "The Matrrix Reloaded."

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Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at North American theaters, according to Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc. Final figures will be released Monday.

1. 'The Matrix Revolutions,' $50.16 million
2. 'Elf,' $32.1 million
3. 'Brother Bear,' $18.6 million
4. 'Scary Movie 3,' $11.1 million
5. 'Radio,' $7.4 million
6. 'Love Actually,' $6.6 million
7. "Mystic River," $4.83 million
8. (tie) 'Runaway Jury,' $4.8 million
8. (tie) 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre,' $4.8 million
10. 'The School of Rock,' $3.15 million


LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The sci-fi Matrix saga lost some of its spin at the U.S. box office, with "The Matrix Revolutions" pulling in $50.16 million in its opening weekend -- off 45 percent from the previous chapter's weekend debut.

"Revolutions," pummeled by critics as harshly as "The Matrix Reloaded" was last May, has grossed $85.5 million domestically since debuting Wednesday, according to studio estimates Sunday. While the numbers are high, they are still down from "Reloaded," which had a $91.8 million weekend debut and took in $134.2 million over its first four days.

Distributor Warner Bros. preferred to focus on the worldwide results for "Revolutions." Warner opened the movie simultaneously in a record 109 countries, where it racked up a worldwide total of $204.1 million in five days, beating the previous global high of about $200 million for "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers."

Will Ferrell's Christmas comedy "Elf," about a human raised among the little people at the North Pole, opened strongly in second place with $32.1 million domestically. In narrower release, the romantic comedy "Love Actually" had a healthy debut with $6.6 million, coming in at No. 6.

Despite the domestic debut for the final "Matrix" chapter, the "Matrix" franchise this year already is pushing the $1 billion mark.

"Anytime you have a billion dollars in box office, that's pretty impressive," Joel Silver, producer of "The Matrix" franchise, said Sunday. "I don't know how you point a finger and say there's anything wrong there."

Still, interest clearly has waned in the franchise, which began in 1999 with the Wachowski brothers' "The Matrix," starring Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne and Carrie-Anne Moss. The movie's sleek black fashion sense and slow-motion visual effects have become one of the most copied looks in movie history.

Many fans of the original were disappointed by "Matrix Reloaded," finding it a lackluster followup that emphasized style over substance.

"Reloaded's" opening weekend -- the second-best ever after "Spider-Man's" $114.8 million -- was greatly due to pent-up demand since the original movie. "Revolutions" lacked that buildup.

"I don't know what film could do $90 million and then repeat that with its next sequel just six months later," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations.

Playing in 3,502 theaters domestically, "Matrix Revolutions" averaged $14,322 a cinema from Friday to Sunday, down from a $25,472 average for "Matrix Reloaded." "Love Actually," with an ensemble cast including Hugh Grant, Emma Thompson, Liam Neeson and Laura Linney, averaged $11,458 in 576 cinemas, while "Elf" averaged $9,619 in 3,337 theaters.

Dan Fellman, head of domestic distribution for Warner, said "Matrix Revolutions" may hold up better in subsequent weeks than did "Matrix Reloaded," whose grosses nose-dived in its second weekend. Films tend to have longer shelf life over the holidays than they do in summer-blockbuster season, he said.

"The story really isn't over yet," Fellman said. "We might not have had the same impact in the opening weekend, but you need to play this out for the next few weeks and see if we play a little catchup."

"Elf" and "Love Actually" were scheduled against "Matrix Revolutions" as alternatives to the sci-fi franchise, whose core audience is younger males. Families and children accounted for most of the crowds at "Elf," while "Love Actually" played mainly to women and older adults.

"We assumed we would be swamped, and essentially, we did get swamped" by "Matrix Revolutions," said Russell Schwartz, head of domestic marketing for "Elf" distributor New Line. "We were not trying to be No. 1."
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Maybe it's cause i didn't go and see this one. I always thought they were overpricing my ticket by a few billion.
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Al though I haven't seen any of the movies, would being released so soon after the previous movie have anything to do with it's lack of success? The article did say that it lacked the pent-up demand from such a long wait the previous one did.
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Al though I haven't seen any of the movies, would being released so soon after the previous movie have anything to do with it's lack of success? The article did say that it lacked the pent-up demand from such a long wait the previous one did.
LOTR has no problem holding on to its audience with only about a year's gap between the two, not to mention the massive DVD demand for the movies and their extended versions. The "no pent up" demand argument rings so false to me.
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i think it does--most people are like "what? Matrix again? already? i still havent rented the second one!"

LOTR has a whole year, and its on video for a good 5 or 6 months before the next film is out.
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It might have something to do with November. Typically, there are three periods where big movies are shown-mid-spring (Revolutions, Spider-Man) summer (innumerable) and Christmas season (LotR, the past two Harry Potters). Why they decided to open a big movie like this in November is beyond me.
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I can't believe anyone would even think of comparing the Matrix films to the LOTR films. They're just not in the same league, regardless of what the box office says.
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Or it could simply be that Reloaded was a disappointment for a lot of people, so they had no real drive to see Revolutions. Since Revolutions was stupid, these people were right to wait. The problem with Reloaded and Revolutions was that they forgot about the first film completely. The fact that there are people serving as batteries in the Matrix falls completely out of the picture in favor of endless shit about Zion.
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Stravo wrote:LOTR has no problem holding on to its audience with only about a year's gap between the two, not to mention the massive DVD demand for the movies and their extended versions. The "no pent up" demand argument rings so false to me.
No, no, I'd say that it rings pretty true. People wanted another Matrix movie because the first one was a good action flick. It's just that when Reloaded came out, it stunk to high heaven, and so nobody was really intereted in it any more. Even though Revolutions is better than Reloaded, it's only been, what, maybe half a year since Reloaded was released? It was just released on DVD recently...the bitter pain of the second movie is keeping people from going to see the third. The second movie utterly failed to create any real excitement in anyone but the most hard-core Matrix fans, instead creating boredom and disinterest. So, yeah, the pent-up excitement that was around for Reloaded is long since gone.

Look at it this way, for years there was pent up excitement concerning not only the re-release of the Original Star Wars Trilogy, but Episode One. once Episode One came out, it did pretty well, but it still took a beating by critics and fans alike. Turnout for Episode Two lacked the same electricity Episode One did, and Episode Three will suffer from the same lack of excitement, but will still draw fans who want closure.

Andrew: The reason for launching it in November is simple: Reloaded came out earlier this year. They needed time for post-production and such, so Summer would have been pushing it. Christmas season this year is going to be dominated by Return of the King, and they know it. Rather than try and compete, they're going to try and make out with what they can before interest in the Matrix fades away entirely under the roar of the Dark Hordes of Sauron.
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Should I even bother watching Reloaded if I want to watch Revolutions?
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Hamel wrote:Should I even bother watching Reloaded if I want to watch Revolutions?
Depends.

Do you want to watch it for the story or action?
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Ghost Rider wrote: Depends.

Do you want to watch it for the story or action?
What do you mean, it depends? Either way, it's a crappy movie. :P
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I personally loved Reloaded, and while Revolutions wasn't quite as good, I think people forget that Revolutions and Reloaded are actually the same movie, chopped in two. I plan on seeing Revolutions at least once more while it's still in theatres, and buying it as sson as it comes out on DVD.
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I think word is getting around. My friends and I had very little to say afterwards. Most people I talk to kinda shrug and say it was okay.
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It makes sense. Revolutions wasn't good enough to be a normal movie, much less a part of the Matrix. It was a sudden change from "It's not real" to "Believe and have faith in the Lord, and he'll let you fly!" It lost any realistic factors after Reloaded, along with the action as well. Nothing overly exciting happened through the entire thing...

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Hamel wrote:Should I even bother watching Reloaded if I want to watch Revolutions?
Yes! Ideally, watch Reloaded and then immediately go to the theatre to watch Revolutions, so you can maximize your own suffering!
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Due to the hideous critism toward the movie, I will be watching for the action. Does Revolution have good action? I might see it tomorow.~Jason
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Hamel wrote:Should I even bother watching Reloaded if I want to watch Revolutions?
Yes! Ideally, watch Reloaded and then immediately go to the theatre to watch Revolutions, so you can maximize your own suffering!
No, for ultimate suffering, he should see Revolutions first, then Reloaded, then play the terrible PC port of Enter the Matrix. If that doesn't drive him into a state of total frustration and despair, little will.
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Soontir C'boath wrote:Due to the hideous critism toward the movie, I will be watching for the action. Does Revolution have good action? I might see it tomorow.~Jason
Not really. Some scenes are cool, but you dont want to pay full price for it.
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TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Soontir C'boath wrote:Due to the hideous critism toward the movie, I will be watching for the action. Does Revolution have good action? I might see it tomorow.~Jason
Not really. Some scenes are cool, but you dont want to pay full price for it.
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no action?? If anything there was too much!! How about an hour-long CGI fight involving dozens of mechs and hundreds of thousands of Sentinels for starters!
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This is insane. It made $50,000,000 in three days, and we are expected to feel like it's a failure? It probably made more in half a week than any ten of us will make in our lifetimes. Unless you had a bet going that it would make more, or own stock in Time Warner, why do you even care, let alone have an opinion about this?
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zombie84 wrote:no action?? If anything there was too much!! How about an hour-long CGI fight involving dozens of mechs and hundreds of thousands of Sentinels for starters!
The qualifier here was "good action". Meaning action of quality, not quantity.

Allow me to demonstrate:

The opening sequence to Saving Private Ryan was good action.

Any fight scene with Neo in Reloaded was not good action.

It doesn't matter how long the action is if it's not well done. In fact, the longer an action sequence is, the better is has to be in order to appeal to the audience. If it drags, it only makes the action worse. This was a huge flaw in Reloaded.
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As much as Reloaded sucked it's amazing Revolutions made any money at all, so far as I'm concerned. I have an excuse for going at least-- I'm a paid roommate for two mentally handicapped people, so I get paid to take them on outings like movies (ie, I got paid to sit through it with them).

Revolutions is a lot better than Reloaded was, but the story still sucked a lot, and the action scenes weren't good enough to justify a movie ticket.
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CDiehl wrote:This is insane. It made $50,000,000 in three days, and we are expected to feel like it's a failure? It probably made more in half a week than any ten of us will make in our lifetimes. Unless you had a bet going that it would make more, or own stock in Time Warner, why do you even care, let alone have an opinion about this?
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