DS vs Unlimited Borg.

[Kamakazie Sith]

IMO the simplest reason is that the shields were simply down, because they don't consider small fighters to be a threat.

Saying the shields were specifically designed to block capital ship fire but not block starfighter weapons is silly.

The fighters passed through the shield and then shot the Death Star's surface while underneath the shield.

Bullshit. What evidence is there that SW ships don't have hull hugging shields.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Anyway....

My originial question was answered. The DSI does have shields, why they weren't used or weren't effective during the battle of Yavin is irrelevant.

[Darth Wong]

IMO the simplest reason is that the shields were simply down, because they don't consider small fighters to be a threat.

Saying the shields were specifically designed to block capital ship fire but not block starfighter weapons is silly.

Actually, if the shields were composed of numerous interlocking segments, and there were small "seams", or weak spots at certain areas due to sloppy overlapping which the designers did not concern themselves with due to overconfidence, then one could easily imagine how such a situation may exist. Starfighters could exploit it by pushing through physically and putting their shields to maximum, while weapons fire would not penetrate and capships are far too large to penetrate.

[Kamakazie Sith]

IMO the simplest reason is that the shields were simply down, because they don't consider small fighters to be a threat.

Saying the shields were specifically designed to block capital ship fire but not block starfighter weapons is silly.

Actually, if the shields were composed of numerous interlocking segments, and there were small "seams", or weak spots at certain areas due to sloppy overlapping which the designers did not concern themselves with due to overconfidence, then one could easily imagine how such a situation may exist. Starfighters could exploit it by pushing through physically and putting their shields to maximum, while weapons fire would not penetrate and capships are far too large to penetrate.

Interesting, and I've heard this before but I can't remember where. Is there any canon backing to this thought?

Though thinking about the design shortcuts of the Death Star, such a flaw wouldn't be hard to imagine.

[YT300000]

Bullshit. What evidence is there that SW ships don't have hull hugging shields.

Plenty.

The Falcon once flew under an SSD's shields. (Forgot the book, it was one of the seven turds).

Shields go over hangers, and don't hug the inside of them (ISD, DCS).

Also, Han's statement of "angle the deflectors" defeats your argument.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Bullshit. What evidence is there that SW ships don't have hull hugging shields.

Plenty.

The Falcon once flew under an SSD's shields. (Forgot the book, it was one of the seven turds).

Shields go over hangers, and don't hug the inside of them (ISD, DCS).

Also, Han's statement of "angle the deflectors" defeats your argument.

One of the seven turds?

Alright very well....I conceed.

[Darth Yoshi]

I believe he is referring to The Courtship of Princess Leia, when the Falcon pretends to be tractored in order to take out Zsinj. Although I thought that was a decent book.

[YT300000]

I believe he is referring to The Courtship of Princess Leia, when the Falcon pretends to be tractored in order to take out Zsinj. Although I thought that was a decent book.

Thats the one. But I think it is pretty bad. TTT set my standards high.

[Kuja]

I believe he is referring to The Courtship of Princess Leia, when the Falcon pretends to be tractored in order to take out Zsinj. Although I thought that was a decent book.

The book itself isn't bad, but the final battle sure as hell blew.

[Crazedwraith]

snip.

Interesting, and I've heard this before but I can't remember where. Is there any canon backing to this thought?

Though thinking about the design shortcuts of the Death Star, such a flaw wouldn't be hard to imagine.

Proberly Conquest, I beleive its finally battle uses this concept.

[Kamakazie Sith]

snip.

Interesting, and I've heard this before but I can't remember where. Is there any canon backing to this thought?

Though thinking about the design shortcuts of the Death Star, such a flaw wouldn't be hard to imagine.

Proberly Conquest, I beleive its finally battle uses this concept.

Holy shit.....

Yeah, that's exactly where I remember reading that. IIRC it is when Picard and Admiral Kanos are discussing the plan of attack against the Death Star.

[Sea Skimmer]

Actually, if the shields were composed of numerous interlocking segments, and there were small "seams", or weak spots at certain areas due to sloppy overlapping which the designers did not concern themselves with due to overconfidence, then one could easily imagine how such a situation may exist. Starfighters could exploit it by pushing through physically and putting their shields to maximum, while weapons fire would not penetrate and capships are far too large to penetrate.

Such a flaw resulting from a shitty design staff, isn't without precedent in real naval tonnage. The German's Sharnhorst class battlecruiser design had a step up in the middle section of its main armored deck, this was because the boilers wouldn't fit under the deck as it was at the edges. The result was a small but highly venerable band of vertical armor, which in finnal battle of the Sharnhorst a 14-inch shell happened to find, resulting in several boilers being knocked out and the vessel being fatally crippled.

[Darth Servo]

Bullshit. What evidence is there that SW ships don't have hull hugging shields.

A shield that doesn't stick to the skin of the object being protected? Lets see? The Destroyer Droids in TPM, the Hoth shield, Alderaan's planetary shield, the shield protecting the DS2, the Naboo starfighters projected a couple inches from the hull, the Gungan theater shields...

[Kamakazie Sith]

Bullshit. What evidence is there that SW ships don't have hull hugging shields.

A shield that doesn't stick to the skin of the object being protected? Lets see? The Destroyer Droids in TPM, the Hoth shield, Alderaan's planetary shield, the shield protecting the DS2, the Naboo starfighters projected a couple inches from the hull, the Gungan theater shields...

I recommend you read the rest of the thread. Have a nice day.....

[Patrick Degan]

The Death Star is not a perpetual motion machine. Eventually, they will lose this battle.

It doesn't have to be. A moon-sized battlestation which can fuel not only a massive energy weapon of 1E38J capacity but also several thousand heavy turbolasers and the engine power required to push its own mass at +600km/sec and 1.2 million c at minimum contains far greater resources at its disposal than those represented by several thousand Cubeships. The mismatch here would be akin to a few hundred Fiji war canoes attacking the USS New Jersey.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

I believe he is referring to The Courtship of Princess Leia, when the Falcon pretends to be tractored in order to take out Zsinj. Although I thought that was a decent book.

The book itself isn't bad, but the final battle sure as hell blew.

The book is more lame than bad...