What can Kill Dragonball Z Characters, especially Saiyans?

[The Yosemite Bear]

Fuck that, They can die from colds, (Goku nearly did), Figure a souped up little strain of influenza (IF it can cross species, here it can be engineered to jack the Nammic too)

[Anarchist Bunny]

Goku in DB took bullet shots like nothing, Those swords weren't just special swords, and what cold? There was the Heart Disease. HEY! Thats it!

Give em cancer with cell phones.

Also they can shrug off a lot more than 1E38 shots. A 1E38 shot was from around the freeza era, about 3 mil PL, and it's about 20 or 30 times that at the end of DBZ. Hell, even tien diflected a shot powerful enough to kill Gohan in Buu Saga.

[Colonel Olrik]

Weeell, I have to defend one of the favorite cartoons of my youth..

/childish mode on/
You realize, of course, that even the weakest of the DBZ heros/vilains can destroy a planet in a heartbeat. That the last vilains, including some who later became heroes, can be pulverized and still recontitute themselves. That they are in fact capable of destroying an entire galaxy at the end of DBZ (at least, defeating enemies who can).

The sayans are the most vulnerable, not being able to survive in space and requiring to breath. But they can hold their breath for a Long time. Vegeta would destroy the entire planet if attacked. And they are sensitive. They can feel presences. Goku can beam himself to anyplace, including other planets.

They are impervious to anything from bullets (see young Goku in the original DB) to Nuclear attacks (able to resist blasts that would destroy a planet).

And they have the Gods at their command. That's helpful.

Face it, each one has power far in excess of that of the Death Star

So, do you want to have a go at killing them?

/childish mode off/

[Anarchist Bunny]

Oh and on the breathing thing, I remember hearing some where about Vegeta panting in a fight in space. I think they can survive in space as a SS.

[Alyrium Denryle]

A mage casting disintegrate 6 times under a timestop spell. They will fail the save eventually(especially when the int bonus of the wizard is +60)

[Colonel Olrik]

Oh and on the breathing thing, I remember hearing some where about Vegeta panting in a fight in space. I think they can survive in space as a SS.

For that issue, there is a lack of evidence. On one hand, we did see the sayans, led by Guku's father, when fighting Freezer for their homeplanet (which was destroyed by him), Fighting in Space. And vegeta did destroy a planet while outside his ship in the beginning of DBZ. On the other, Goku always dressed a space suit while in space, when heading for Namek. And it was stated while fighting Freezer that if the planet got destroyed (as it did) Freezer would still survive, whereas Goku would not. There is not clear evidence that Sayans can survive in space. Certainly that is true for short amounts of time, as their bodies can resist the vacuum.

[Dalton]

Goku can beam himself to anyplace, including other planets.

Only if he can lock onto a familiar presence, and only at the speed of light IIRC.

[Colonel Olrik]

Goku can beam himself to anyplace, including other planets.

Only if he can lock onto a familiar presence, and only at the speed of light IIRC.

Of that I'm not sure, I think it can be any presence. But it's certainly faster than the speed of light, because he travelled between Namek and Earth, and Earth and other planets in a very short time (an episode).

[Dalton]

Of that I'm not sure, I think it can be any presence. But it's certainly faster than the speed of light, because he travelled between Namek and Earth, and Earth and other planets in a very short time (an episode).

Must be one later on then...

[Colonel Olrik]

There is also a movie, called the super sayan, where they fight the mythical super sayan warrior. In that movie the preferred means of transportation between planets of Goku is transportation

And I remembered he fixed on the energy of unknown people, so it doesn't have to be familiar presences.

And he can beam others with him as well.

there is really little that can harm the DBZ characters [Buaahhh ahh ahh]

[Shadowhawk]

Goku learns the 'instant transmission' (shunkun idou, I believe) technique during his year-long absence after the Freeza saga. It allows instant teleportation anywhere (including the afterlife), as long as he has a ki to lock on to.

Aside from that, the Z senshi are capable of extremely high speeds during combat. We can't really quantify them, but they fuzz out of vision and can re-appear hundreds of feet away in fractions of a second. They can only do this for relatively short ranges (the range appears to increase as the series progresses). Long-distance speed is also difficult to quantify, since we're never given any distances. They seem to be able to cross considerable distances in only a few minutes.

Keep in mind that we're repeatedly shown that Z senshi battles tend to occur at such enormous speeds that humans simply aren't capable of following them. Dodging ki blasts isn't quite as easy as it would seem--as you can see when Freeza attempts to kill Gohan with a blast that no one but Vegeta could follow, let alone fly in to tackle Gohan out of the way. Even as early as the first tournament in Dragonball, Roshi and Kuririn fought faster than the crowd could see.

[SWPIGWANG]

DORAEMON

Use "everybody-equal-missile" to make the sayians weak as crap then shink ray + step.


Yes, there is always a anime that is more powerful than the other. Too bad doreamon doesn't not exist in english except to biligeral jap-learn english versions, or you'd see the real ultimate power.

Even the culture with tremble in fear of instant ftl, time travel and the huge variety of (largely useless) consumer goods.

[consequences]

Highest speeds actually observed are Pan going around the world in 12 seconds, and Goku traversing Snake Way in 2 days. Problems with ridiculous speeds include the general lack of sonic booms, and the fact that the atmosphere would compress to a hardness greater than the earth at high enogh speeds, not to mention the fact that the human body is not very aerodynamic.
Straha, thank you, I didn't want to be the first to say it.
I was actually intending a semi serious thread here, but if its amusing what the hell.
My next (semi-)serious suggestion, mono-molecular wire in a net around the characters bed, as soon as it is in place, bring in a mouth watering 40 course meal. Any of the saiyans would flay themselves by sheer reflex before they could possibly catch up with what's going on.
Goku's Instant Transmission is actually not limited by the speed of light at all, as seen repeatedly during the Majin Buu sagas, when they go between star systems at will and instantaneously.
Colonel Olrik, Goku's father, Bardok, was the ONLY saiyan facing Frieza. Everyone behind him was one of Frieza's minions, that Bardok had just punched through, and they were looking scared because they had just failed Frieza, and knew their likely fate.
We have actually seen 1E39 attacks only rarely in the series, 3 times during the Cell saga, and another couple of times during Majin Buu's reign of terror.
They feel presences... No, they feel large concentrations of chi that are unique to an individual, and their ability to do so does not work if the individual they are looking for doesn't want to be found.
They do not have the Gods at their command, they have the favor of the supposed guardians/rulers of the galaxies/afterlife/Universe, and when you see how much of a bitch the Supreme Kai is, you will realise this isn't exactly a plus. They have access to Shen-Long, but he gets impatient with them often, their overuse of his abilities caused them serious problems in GT, and I have yet to see any of them make a truly intelligent wish.
The main problem I have with them is the massive waste of potential that each of them represents, their solution to any problem is to throw more power at it, and wait to be handed a powerup from the scriptwriters. They are some of the worst examples of brute force over finesse, creativity, intelligence, technique, and common sense, and a full listing of their crimes would take entirely too long to list. Their one saving grace is that they are beacons of genius by the standards of their universe, which is entirely composed of morons of a scale normally seen only in Village Idiots on this discussion board.
If I had the ability, I would go after them in a heartbeat, so yes, I would like to have a go at killing them.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

So, what are you saying, that the Z fighters act like cartoon characters in a childrens cartoon? I'm shocked! Deep plots, and smart people is too much to expect from a kiddy soap opera. Some antipersperant would do them well too! Dragonball Z is one of my guilty pleasures. It is so bad, it is good.
I mean, three eyed people, green nameks, and whatnot walking down the street, and no one thinks this is odd, and stares?

[Colonel Olrik]

Colonel Olrik, Goku's father, Bardok, was the ONLY saiyan facing Frieza. Everyone behind him was one of Frieza's minions, that Bardok had just punched through, and they were looking scared because they had just failed Frieza, and knew their likely fate.

You're right. I just remembered while reading it. Guess it has been a long time since I saw the film.

We have actually seen 1E39 attacks only rarely in the series, 3 times during the Cell saga, and another couple of times during Majin Buu's reign of terror.

No, I disagree. In the very beggining of DBZ satan destroyed the moon, to prevent gohan transforming into a monkey. He was very weak at the time, by DBZ standards, and he did it with apparently no effort. And several attacks of Vegeta fighting Goku in the supersayan saga and several attacks by Freezer in the nameck saga were with planet destruction power level, even according to them. The fact is that Goku defended the strikes, thus not allowing the planet to be destroyed. Actually, at some point that was Freezer's intention, as he could survive in space.

[consequences]

Satan destroyed the moon? If you mean Piccolo, sometimes referred to as a devil, or Daimo then you are correct, If you actually meant to say Mr. Satan I am going to have to track you down and hurt you. In any case, without apparent effort means pointing your hand and nuking something without the accompanying constipation sounds and facial expressions. My recollection of the anime is incredibly fuzzy, but in the manga there is some signifigant effort involved.
If they were throwing planet destroying attacks around so easily during Frieza's saga, why did they make such a big honking deal about the Final Flash and Super Kamehameha that Vegeta and Goku respectively used when fighting Cell, and why wasn't Cell able to effectively stop them? Why did Cell have to charge up for his self destruct for so damned long? Either its a big deal, and the characters grew in power throughout the series, or its nothing to them, and all the training and powerups they received were for visual effect only. Planet Destruction does not mean Death Star Event, a Death Star Event is when a planet is near-instantly vaporised, something that only is seen in DBZ near the very end of the Majin Buu saga, in episodes that might not have been released in the U.S. yet.
Fact, for attacks that should contain such ridiculous quantities of energy, the colatteral damage from missed blasts is extremely low.
Chrostas, I am saying that DBZ characters idiocy exists, and is more than can be accounted for by the normal standards of cartoons. Other Japanese childrens cartoon characters are not nearly as annoying to me, mostly because they tend to have more to them than just the ability to blow up large areas, and occasionally learn from their mistakes. Deep plots and smart people are EXACTLY what I expect from any decent anime, the bastardised versions of DBZ originally released in America are beneath my notice. Frothy mugs of water my ass.

[Colonel Olrik]

Satan destroyed the moon? If you mean Piccolo, sometimes referred to as a devil, or Daimo then you are correct, If you actually meant to say Mr. Satan I am going to have to track you down and hurt you.

Oh fuck it. In the portuguese version the names are different. Piccolo is called Satan and Mr Satan is called Hercules. Sorry for the horrible misunderstanding. One is the coolest character and the other.. should be stabbed repeatdly in the hearth by everyone who saw the series

If they were throwing planet destroying attacks around so easily during Frieza's saga, why did they make such a big honking deal about the Final Flash and Super Kamehameha that Vegeta and Goku respectively used when fighting Cell, and why wasn't Cell able to effectively stop them?

Possibly, because their attacks were throwing energy far in excess to that required to destroy a planet.

Why did Cell have to charge up for his self destruct for so damned long? Either its a big deal, and the characters grew in power throughout the series, or its nothing to them, and all the training and powerups they received were for visual effect only. Planet Destruction does not mean Death Star Event, a Death Star Event is when a planet is near-instantly vaporised, something that only is seen in DBZ near the very end of the Majin Buu saga, in episodes that might not have been released in the U.S. yet.
Fact, for attacks that should contain such ridiculous quantities of energy, the colatteral damage from missed blasts is extremely low.

You're right, I'm defending DBZ in my childish mode, not my engineering mode.

From the evidence, they have repeatedly shown power levels high enough to destroy planets (and in the mythical sayan film, it was said that he destroyed an entire galaxy before being fought by Goku & friends)
I just remembered Vegeta destroyng a planet, again by simpling pointing, in the beggining of the series, while on his way to Earth.

[consequences]

Unfortunately, the damn series is just inconsistent in some ways, most notably in pure power output from episode to episode. I actually kind of enjoy it myself, but a lot of thing in it, especially ChiChi, piss me off a lot.
Honestly, if I was in the Dbz universe as an evil villain, I would simply never come to Earth, and spread rumors to lure my enemies there.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Better Yet, 40 course meal with Cyanide, impregnated into everything.

*SNarf, gobble BELCH*
Hey, doesn't this taste like almonds
*Thud*

[Typhonis 1]

worse take em out to diner and let Akane from Ranma 1/2 cook the meal

[The Yosemite Bear]

Only if Cko bakes dessert.

Actually I wonder what would happen if alll the Anime kids went to school together, how many times would Ranma, Gotan, and Tenchi get beatten up by Ako because she misunderstood something.

[Typhonis 1]

Hmm Tenchi wouldnt say anything like that isnt in his character ...a 12 year old Goku on the oither hand

[weemadando]

Akira could. Without blinking.

Maybe several EVAs would bring one down.

Nearly anything from RIFTS.

[Australopithicus]

The thread title says it all, I don't care what source the method of execution comes from, just please explain what it is, how it will work, and why DBZ characters resistance to kinetic impact and wide spread energy blasts will not save them.

How about a rampant heart virus contracted from Yardrat - sei? (Thank god I know something about something, especially DBZ) I don't know why, but senzu beans can't cure it, Goku's metabolism can't shake it, and therefore it must be a mutated virus.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

DBZ is sci-fi (sorta) and anime. Bye bye