STGOD2 OOC Thread

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-13 10:51pm

phongn wrote:Bah, smash and grabs are so ... inelegant. Forced economic dependancy with eventual political amalgamation (of their own free will, of course ) is a much more elegant method of aquiring new lands that are already occupied.

Why bother with all that shit? The HAB simply stole a large chunk of Aquarian merchant fleet and took it home for its own use. No need to bother with all the long term commitment junk.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-13 10:55pm

Good thing freighters are a dime a dozen... Private companies are nice... Anyone who wants to become a merchant can plunk down a few thousand credits and buy a ship...

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-11-13 10:56pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Why bother with all that shit? The HAB simply stole a large chunk of Aquarian merchant fleet and took it home for its own use. No need to bother with all the long term commitment junk.

They'll probably want you to come to account for all that. I await with baited breath.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-13 11:01pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
phongn wrote:Bah, smash and grabs are so ... inelegant. Forced economic dependancy with eventual political amalgamation (of their own free will, of course ) is a much more elegant method of aquiring new lands that are already occupied.
Elegance is a rapier and dinner jacket. My approach is gothic plate and a greataxe.

And mine, akin to bringing a shotgun to a melee duel.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-13 11:12pm

Releasing xenomorphs into the slums of a heavily populated world, is like releasing the ebola virus into a Bejing open-air market.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-11-13 11:20pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:Elegance is a rapier and dinner jacket. My approach is gothic plate and a greataxe.

More like a Katana. Why go through the nonsense of parrying and such when you can chop their heads off in a single, swift and early stroke (our 'generous' economic aid

). Elegant, and quite vicious in its own way.

Of course, gothic plate and greataxes have their own place too

You also have a legitimate claim to the territory, because it was formerly your territory. Whereas I'm operating in the "I saw it first!" realm of expansion. O Pioneers!

Muwahaha.

The Terrans are apparently in a much more populated sector of space, where it is actually feasible to create satillite states. Almost nobody lives on the Norma Arm. Not much to subjugate...

You lose. OTOH, that does mean a lot of empty planets to colonize and Kzinform.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-13 11:21pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote: They'll probably want you to come to account for all that. I await with baited breath.

The HAB isn't the one currently wrecking its fleet seizing planets.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-11-13 11:21pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Releasing xenomorphs into the slums of a heavily populated world, is like releasing the ebola virus into a Bejing open-air market.

Ebola isn't airborne.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-13 11:22pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Good thing freighters are a dime a dozen... Private companies are nice... Anyone who wants to become a merchant can plunk down a few thousand credits and buy a ship...

Not ones tens of kilometers long, which is what the HAB was primarily interesting in taking.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-11-13 11:22pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Good thing freighters are a dime a dozen... Private companies are nice... Anyone who wants to become a merchant can plunk down a few thousand credits and buy a ship...

Presumably he grabbed real freighters instead of the penny-ante light frighters we see everywhere.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-13 11:24pm

phongn wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Releasing xenomorphs into the slums of a heavily populated world, is like releasing the ebola virus into a Bejing open-air market.
Ebola isn't airborne.

I know. It is passed through physical contact and bodily fluid transfer... Think about how closely packed those markets are... In Urban China...

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-13 11:25pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Good thing freighters are a dime a dozen... Private companies are nice... Anyone who wants to become a merchant can plunk down a few thousand credits and buy a ship...
Not ones tens of kilometers long, which is what the HAB was primarily interesting in taking.

Those... will take a bit longer to replace...

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-13 11:32pm

Sea Skimmer, I do not appreciate you controling the locations and actions of forces that are under my control.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-13 11:39pm

Let's see. Xenomorph Queens are about as intelligent as a human in Alien Canon, yet hunt other species without end and regard for orders. Why should them being smarter make them do this less?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-13 11:44pm

Because we have engineered them to be as such. Fact of the matter is, we engneered them to be fully aware and understanding of the exact position they put us in , and we understand that which they are in.

They have, in this STGOD turned over a new leaf. At least the ones that we altered, and their progeny.

The point is, they are, mine to control. And Sea Skimmer is violating that control in violation of this STGODs rules. It is akin to me taking control over his fleets.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-13 11:48pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Because we have engineered them to be as such. Fact of the matter is, we engneered them to be fully aware and understanding of the exact position they put us in , and we understand that which they are in.

They have, in this STGOD turned over a new leaf. At least the ones that we altered, and their progeny.

The point is, they are, mine to control. And Sea Skimmer is violating that control in violation of this STGODs rules. It is akin to me taking control over his fleets.

You unleash a force with well-known capabilities and tendencies on the STGOD, never make any posts dealing with what they are doing, and get pissy when someone assumes they're acting as they are known to act? If you actually made posts and detailed their actions. But you've not been making any indications of how far the infestation spreads.

I should point out in any invasion post, you take control of other's forces to an extent. People capture Black Alliance ships all the time.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-11-14 12:22am

SirNitram wrote:I should point out in any invasion post, you take control of other's forces to an extent. People capture Black Alliance ships all the time.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-11-14 02:38am

Oh, yeah, in case anyone's wondering about what the Quaynar Firestar that my character just got looks like, here's a preliminary sketch:

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-11-14 06:28am

SirNitram: Planet destroying weaponry. I think gravitonic warheads tends to do bad things to planets, especially when fired in volleys.

And luckily I have no embassy of the Azegarz in my major city.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-14 08:45am

SirNitram wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Because we have engineered them to be as such. Fact of the matter is, we engneered them to be fully aware and understanding of the exact position they put us in , and we understand that which they are in.

They have, in this STGOD turned over a new leaf. At least the ones that we altered, and their progeny.

The point is, they are, mine to control. And Sea Skimmer is violating that control in violation of this STGODs rules. It is akin to me taking control over his fleets.
You unleash a force with well-known capabilities and tendencies on the STGOD, never make any posts dealing with what they are doing, and get pissy when someone assumes they're acting as they are known to act? If you actually made posts and detailed their actions. But you've not been making any indications of how far the infestation spreads.

I should point out in any invasion post, you take control of other's forces to an extent. People capture Black Alliance ships all the time.

A ship capture is one thing, but taking control of what amounts to part of my armed forces and having them attack another power, is out of line.

I posted in the beginning of the STGOD that they were sentient, and went through the queens thought proceses in game.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-14 08:52am

Now, we can get around that simply with "he falsified the report" such things would not be hard to do....

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-11-14 03:10pm

Oh, someone asked a while ago about antiplanet and WMD capabilities of the TSC; in addition to simple BDZs, we carry chemical weapons at the Century level, and own large stores of tactical biological weapons (short-lived viruses and bacteria, fast acting and with low or no contagious properties) and small stores of Moax planetkiller plagues, designed to be seeded on a world and eradicate the population. Moax plagues have been used on populated worlds before, and are quite devastating, but may not be as effective against industrialsed worlds with outside support and modern medicine.

Pretty much, we will stick to conventional combat (well, as conventional as combat can get- the TSC carries chemical and tac-nuke weaponry at the Century level.)

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-14 03:14pm

The Black Alliance is very much against planetkilling. It is, after all, so hard to recover loot from an obliterated world. However, for times of emergencies, they have normal Base Delta Zero operations, and a full crash-brake from a Long Haul can be used to scour a planet of anything resembling organic life as the energy surge lights the atmosphere on fire.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » 2003-11-14 03:43pm

SirNitram wrote:The Black Alliance is very much against planetkilling. It is, after all, so hard to recover loot from an obliterated world. However, for times of emergencies, they have normal Base Delta Zero operations, and a full crash-brake from a Long Haul can be used to scour a planet of anything resembling organic life as the energy surge lights the atmosphere on fire.

The UTR can not confirm or deny any rumors that it may or may not have retained a small stockpile of Super Light Accelerated Missiles.

OOC: In other words, if you use planetkillers on me I have them. If you stay conventional, then I don't.

EDIT: Does the N'Hreah Alliance Treaty Organization still exist Phong?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-11-14 07:38pm

The PRC will not confirm or deny on the existance of any special weaponry recovered from NR or NRMD ships or stations.

(IOW, yes, I have a few Little Doctors.)