The official Revolutions DISCUSSION thread

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-11-13 11:45am

Vympel wrote:The most hilarious thing is that they call it the 'Armored Personnel Unit' ... how the fuck does a completely open cockpit warrant that description?

We should just call them the PUs.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-11-13 11:45am

Hm or maybe the UPU (unarmored personnel unit) makes more sense.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-13 11:52am

Nah, APU makes more sense. However, they should have re-done the design. Instead of this:

It should have been this:

When the machines come to Zion, they should set up shop and start selling to the machines.
"Would you like a human squishy with that?"
"Thank you please come again."

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-13 12:18pm

ggs wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
Seggybop wrote: 3. Through neovision, the pods of humans glow very brightly. The attendant drones suck the brightness into themselves. Anything of the machines has this glow, with more important things glowing brighter. I believe that the neovision is actually detecting the released life energy. Normal humans don't glow because their energy isn't released. I haven't seen any other explanation for him being able to see machine things and only machine things, so this makes sense to me.
Errr, weren't those the fields where the babies are grown? and the attendant drones were removing them from stalks to be moved to their adult pods, as we saw in The Matrix?
As far as I can remember, they were full sized pods.

No, its the fetus fields. But i believe we also have a shot of the power plant with the full-sized human pods as well (not sure on this one though).

I might be able to post some screen caps in a day or two.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-11-14 12:25pm

Quick interjection: Anyone read maddox's review? (Sorry if it's been posted, I didn't want to read through 10 pages to check) At any rate, here it is. (Note where the spoiler warning is. too funny!)

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2003-11-14 02:26pm

Yeah his review was gold.

But I loved his Reloaded review with the flying toilet flux capcitor time machine to go back in time and make sure he never saw the movie.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-11-16 06:00pm

My brain hurts from the Zion battle.

Melkor · Post by **Melkor** » 2003-11-17 02:04am

Chardok wrote:Quick interjection: Anyone read maddox's review? (Sorry if it's been posted, I didn't want to read through 10 pages to check) At any rate, here it is. (Note where the spoiler warning is. too funny!)

I read about two articles before I bookmarked that page. That is without a doubt the most hilarious website I've ever read.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-18 09:52pm

I'm unstickifying this thread. The Matrix: Revolutions has already shot its meagre load at the box office, and is rapidly becoming old news. If I wait much longer, it will be out on video.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-11-18 10:06pm

Out of curiosity, why do the APU's hold their guns sideways, gangsta style?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-11-18 10:09pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Out of curiosity, why do the APU's hold their guns sideways, gangsta style?

So that it looks cool.

Remember, this is the same movie that has open cockpit mecha so that you can see the characters inside.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-11-18 10:22pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Out of curiosity, why do the APU's hold their guns sideways, gangsta style?

Perhaps so they could actually use the gunsights.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-11-18 10:24pm

Which was the first movie to do that? I think it was The Abyss, where they designed these specially faceplates for the diving suits so you could see the actors faces... I remember that from the specials.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-18 10:24pm

Vympel wrote: The most hilarious thing is that they call it the 'Armored Personnel Unit' ... how the fuck does a completely open cockpit warrant that description?

There does not appear to be any armor on the pieces of shit at all. Everything is exposed.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-11-18 10:50pm

Maybe the ammo is armored. Oh wait, it isn't...

Well maybe the engine is.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-18 11:01pm

neoolong wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Out of curiosity, why do the APU's hold their guns sideways, gangsta style?
Perhaps so they could actually use the gunsights.

All you need to do is check out this image to quickly disprove that notion.

It's not that hard to miss, it's already been posted once on this page alone.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-18 11:31pm

Hotfoot wrote: [img]http://www.realmofconfusion.com/rev5.jpg[img]
They even manage to fuck up iron sights. That takes dedication.

No, what's truly sad is they also fucked up the muzzle breaks.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-18 11:36pm

Hey hey, look at this off the Matrix website.

Stupid morons wrote:
Initial designs were produced by Conceptual Artist Geof Darrow. Some early renditions incorporated ideas such as a fully enclosed battle suit. (see The Art of The Matrix, pg 269) A final design was approved, with eventual minor changes such as the removal of the head shield and console plating to enable a clearer view of characters. Often details are altered to accommodate the requirements for filming. In this case the general look and feel is maintained but the needs of the story and character recognition is given priority.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-19 12:01am

Sea Skimmer wrote:Hey hey, look at this off the Matrix website.

Stupid morons wrote:
Initial designs were produced by Conceptual Artist Geof Darrow. Some early renditions incorporated ideas such as a fully enclosed battle suit. (see The Art of The Matrix, pg 269) A final design was approved, with eventual minor changes such as the removal of the head shield and console plating to enable a clearer view of characters. Often details are altered to accommodate the requirements for filming. In this case the general look and feel is maintained but the needs of the story and character recognition is given priority.

Hotfoot wrote:
Vympel wrote:This, people, is the epitome of what's wrong with the entire damn film. Style over substance. Why make a fully enclosed suit, you won't be able to see the character ... idiots. Ever heard of a refrigerator shot? Real masters of filmaking there- in the final product you can't tell who the hell is in which suit anyway.

The most hilarious thing is that they call it the 'Armored Personnel Unit' ... how the fuck does a completely open cockpit warrant that description?
I saw what was apparently the original "armored" APU. It's not much better, really. Just puts rollbar over the operator and slaps two metal plates on it directly in front of the operator, one above his head, the other in front of his torso and legs. It's some protection, but that's like taking solace that, while you can still get aids from unprotected anal sex, at least you won't have offspring.

For reference, here is the original, "armored" APU.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-11-19 12:22am

Damn that thing is Fugly!

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-11-19 12:31am

Ok, I just saw a commercial for the Matrix: Revolutions and it claimed that this movie had the most successful worldwide opening in history.... how is that possible when it did so poorly here? or is this just puffery and by successful they mean, all theatres started the movie at the same time around the world as planned???

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-19 12:35am

Death from the Sea wrote:Ok, I just saw a commercial for the Matrix: Revolutions and it claimed that this movie had the most successful worldwide opening in history.... how is that possible when it did so poorly here? or is this just puffery and by successful they mean, all theatres started the movie at the same time around the world as planned???

It squeaked by The Two Towers on its first week take because it opened simultaneously in an unprecedented number of countries. I liken it to commercial fishing. They didn't make a better net, they just cast a bigger one.

David · Post by **David** » 2003-11-19 01:10am

Ok I just read the first few pages of this thread and forgive me if no one has said this before, but have some of you just not been paying any fucking attention to the movie?!

"Smith call the Oracle mom"

No shit, watch Reloaded, " If I am the father of the matrix then she is definitely the mother."

"Seraph is called Judas"

Once again, no shit, since all the programs that escaped into the matrix to avoid being deleted are considered traitors then he probably would be considered a Judas.

"There was way to much psychobabble"

Well duh, if you watched the first two movies, and you didn't expect a bunch of psychobabble then your just a dumbass. Same goes for the mecha. They were shown in Reloaded, and if you didn't expect to see them then you weren't paying attention.

"They should have just kept on detonating EMPs"

I think it was made clear enough in Revolutions by the general guy that they couldn't because 1) all of the EMPs were on ships and all of them were destroyed and 2) if they detonated even one EMP it would take out all of their own electronic equipment. After that happened the squides would attack in another wave, which is exactly what happened.

"They didn't explain what happened to Oracle and they just want me to buy the game"

IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN IT IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!! all that happens in the game is the oracle telling ghost and niobe that she paid a far greater price than she wanted, or some thing like that, just the same as in the movie. So for those who don't know what happened let me clue you in. The oracle was working with the architect, she betrayed him and he tried to destroy her, but only succeeded in destroying part of her. Its fairly obvious just from watching the movie.

"I don't get what happened to Neo in the end"

Long story short, when Smith infected Neo, he past on all of his knowledge to Neo, including the places where all the other Smiths had infected. Neo was plugged into the head machine ( whatever the hell its called) so the machine then knew who was infected and destroyed the virus ( aka Smith.)

"No one was freed from the matrix"

Well duh not immediately. Did you expect that the second after Neo beat Smith that the machines would wake up several billion people? oh yeah that would be fun considering the fact that even Neo lost it when he found out that his whole life wasn't real.

I only had two problems with this movie-

1) Neo should have gotten it after the 50th time Bane said "Mr.Anderson"

2) The very last part of the movie. They had just introduced the little girl, and it was an inappropriate character to end the movie on.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-19 01:16am

I think it was made clear enough in Revolutions by the general guy that they couldn't because 1) all of the EMPs were on ships and all of them were destroyed and 2) if they detonated even one EMP it would take out all of their own electronic equipment. After that happened the squides would attack in another wave, which is exactly what happened.

Which is why you turn off your other EMP systems so they are not damaged, then power them up as needed. Then there's the whole a bunch of copper wire make into a net will ward off any EMP thing.

David · Post by **David** » 2003-11-19 01:22am

Sea Skimmer wrote: Which is why you turn off your other EMP systems so they are not damaged, then power them up as needed.

Power them up with what exactly?

Sea Skimmer wrote: Then there's the whole a bunch of copper wire make into a net will ward off any EMP thing.

So Zion's military should coat everything in copperwire? Copper wire doesn't ward off electricity it conducts electricity.