Moderator: Thanas
Thirdfain wrote:
Oh, and theatre shields can hold off the firepower of a dozen Imperial warships including a SSD, and that's sure as hell not focused "over the surface of a planet." Remember Hoth?
Well... You didn't ask for specific details.SirNitram wrote:I was waiting for those magic things called details.Beowulf wrote: I did mention it. You said no Little Doctors, So I said, fine, I'll just use a bunch of really really large bombs instead. You made no further comment on it.
*Points to the water meter man.* You were saying something about detection? My point is that the bomb is hard to detect, not impossible.So you can bomb any world you want without detection? Denied. Would you like a special Moderation font around that? People won't be allowed to set off explosions that big without detection.The princple behind the bomb is a straightforward extension of what I utilize for power. The water is mostly so that I don't have to lug a couple thousand tons of material to the site.
I would mind terribly, but I'd insist that you actually have a reason for it. And I'd accept the effects. Of course, all you'd do is piss off my military, for the very good reason that my command facilities are *not* on my capital...And I can give you a bunch of rules and say-sos for a Gridfire Incursor, would you mind terribly if I unleashed one on your capital?Note that I did spend several posts setting this up, and the bomb isn't especially portable. It can be detected of course, but who's going to pay any attention to a bunch of electronic parts. Remember, transported in pieces, requiring a lengthy setup time.
I even gave very specific measurements of the size of the tank used, and the water held in the tank.
*watches SirNitram go "Tralalalala, I don't care about science." and put fingers in ears.*Yes, you could. That ship could be intercepted. Thirdfain's post stands as canon. Massive devastation, tens of millions dead. The planet is still livable. The shields held over the Ark.And really, isn't it better that it takes a while to actually set off the bomb, or would you rather that I send in a kamikaze ship with a planetcracking bomb. I could very well do that. It wouldn't be significantly larger than a cruiser, if that, and would be well capable of out putting at least 1e39J
That is my decision as moderator.
So you just gave yourself uber-bombs that can't be detected. No. Denied. Moderated down. However you wish to phrase it.Beowulf wrote:Well... You didn't ask for specific details.SirNitram wrote:I was waiting for those magic things called details.Beowulf wrote: I did mention it. You said no Little Doctors, So I said, fine, I'll just use a bunch of really really large bombs instead. You made no further comment on it.
The point is I denied this.*Points to the water meter man.* You were saying something about detection? My point is that the bomb is hard to detect, not impossible.So you can bomb any world you want without detection? Denied. Would you like a special Moderation font around that? People won't be allowed to set off explosions that big without detection.The princple behind the bomb is a straightforward extension of what I utilize for power. The water is mostly so that I don't have to lug a couple thousand tons of material to the site.
*Watches Beowulf go "Tralalalaa, I don't care what the Mod says, I can do whatever I want...*I would mind terribly, but I'd insist that you actually have a reason for it. And I'd accept the effects. Of course, all you'd do is piss off my military, for the very good reason that my command facilities are *not* on my capital...And I can give you a bunch of rules and say-sos for a Gridfire Incursor, would you mind terribly if I unleashed one on your capital?Note that I did spend several posts setting this up, and the bomb isn't especially portable. It can be detected of course, but who's going to pay any attention to a bunch of electronic parts. Remember, transported in pieces, requiring a lengthy setup time.
I even gave very specific measurements of the size of the tank used, and the water held in the tank.
*watches SirNitram go "Tralalalala, I don't care about science." and put fingers in ears.*Yes, you could. That ship could be intercepted. Thirdfain's post stands as canon. Massive devastation, tens of millions dead. The planet is still livable. The shields held over the Ark.And really, isn't it better that it takes a while to actually set off the bomb, or would you rather that I send in a kamikaze ship with a planetcracking bomb. I could very well do that. It wouldn't be significantly larger than a cruiser, if that, and would be well capable of out putting at least 1e39J
That is my decision as moderator.
The electronics that make up a DC power core are fairly specific, and can't be easily reshaped or reconfigured to look very different. If players feel that it would not be difficult at all to detect those systems, then they can feel free to do so. I will point out that it was not very difficult to figure out what I was doing, considering that some people did message me and guess what the hell I was up to. Thirdfain wanted a fucking unreasonable WMD, so he got what was coming to him.SirNitram wrote:So you just gave yourself uber-bombs that can't be detected. No. Denied. Moderated down. However you wish to phrase it.Beowulf wrote:Well... You didn't ask for specific details.
The point is I denied this.*Points to the water meter man.* You were saying something about detection? My point is that the bomb is hard to detect, not impossible.So you can bomb any world you want without detection? Denied. Would you like a special Moderation font around that? People won't be allowed to set off explosions that big without detection.
You're going to get what's coming to you. Perhaps you need a fundamental reminder: This is the STGOD. The Moderator's call is final. My call has been made. Maybe your explosion was inefficient for whatever reason. Maybe something went wrong. I don't care. My ruling stands. Unless you want me to enforce my moderator powers IC, with the force I reserved for such.Beowulf wrote:The electronics that make up a DC power core are fairly specific, and can't be easily reshaped or reconfigured to look very different. If players feel that it would not be difficult at all to detect those systems, then they can feel free to do so. I will point out that it was not very difficult to figure out what I was doing, considering that some people did message me and guess what the hell I was up to. Thirdfain wanted a fucking unreasonable WMD, so he got what was coming to him.
The generator must completely enclose the material be converted. The conversion does take some time, so it doesn't get bounced back immediately. So I guess planetkilling devices are out. The principle seems to work perfectly well in my missiles...Raxmei wrote:Crazy question: What would happen if you pointed this thing at the ground?
It probably wouldn't destroy the planet (that is forbidden), so it has to stop somewhere. But what stops it? My guess is the initial energy release kills the generator before it can activate all of the material. This would likely be the case here. Assuming that the effect must be continuously generated and that it propogates at the speed of light, you only have enough time for light to reach the reactant and bounce back before your generator is destroyed and the device fizzles (relatively speaking - you still have some sort of explosion). This doesn't happen with power plants because in a plant the reaction is deliberately throttled back to safe levels. But once you deliberately set out to create an explosion, this outcome is assured. Therefore, very large explosive devices working under this principle are impossible at this time.
I see the word 'no' doesn't penetrate that skull of yours. Will IC moderation in the form of massive damage to your infrastructure do the job?Beowulf wrote:And Nitram? It would have had to have absolutely miserable efficiency for it to have had the effects shown. By this I mean only .01% efficiency. That said, the likelyhood of me ever using a device like this again is near nil.
We can assume Phong's comes at some IC point after the meeting is over. STGOD time is nothing if not flexible.Thirdfain wrote:Hey, Phongn- the goings on at the meeting on Maralsartel are:
A: JUST leaving the mouths of delegates for discussion. There is no alliance at this point.
B: NOT things you would know about. This is a private diplomatic meeting behind closed doors, and by behind closed doors, I mean the fuckin janitor has been brainscanned by a P-12.
ooc: because then other players don't have to deal with headaches, like me turning their extremely dense armor into material for my missile warhead... (oops? was that your ship?)Raxmei wrote:That explanation works well enough as a rationalization. Since you're not going to get the yield you want, you might as well figure out a plausible reason why it didn't happen.
Why must the material be completely enclosed?
It will have the same efficiency as it had in Thirdfain's post.Beowulf wrote:Nitram: I'm reserving the right to utilize that weapon again, if necessary, such as if some people decided to gang up on me in a 4 front war, even though there really could only be a single front considering my position in the galaxy, and they force me to do as Stormbringer did.
That's cool, though the Alliance may very well fail to come through.I have actually been thinking of proposing a sort of Quadruple Entente for some time, though the geographical layout means that the Central Powers would work just as well. However, yes, this post was intended for completion sometime after your conference completed.
Silence Shark-Bait!Stormbringer wrote:Quiet fish-stick!Alyrium Denryle wrote:What do all you people have against fish people?
