Survivor: Star Trek vs Star Wars

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-17 06:39pm

OK, maybe this one hasn't been done before.

On the Trek team, you have Picard, Riker, Crusher, and Laforge. All characters have their skills and abilities current as of Nemesis.

On the Wars team, you have Luke, Han, Leia, and Lando. All characters have their skills and abilities current as of Return of the Jedi.

Note that I have restricted the teams to human characters only; this assures that everyone has similar requirements for food, water, and shelter and represents potential meat for the scenario's beasties.

On an unrelated side note, why is it that I casually refer to Star Wars characters by their first names but routinely find myself calling Star Trek characters by their last names.

The scenario is Survivor: Pitch Black. Each team is dumped on the planet from the Pitch Black movie. Each is left in an abandoned mining colony similar to the one from the movie, so they have water, a hydroponic garden, a solar power supply, and a solar-powered vehicle.

Night falls one week after the teams arrive and lasts for 72 hours.

Rescue shuttles arrive after sunrise.

Which team has the most (if any) survivors.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » 2003-11-17 06:43pm

C'mon, giving the SW team a Jedi is no fair...

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-17 06:43pm

I should point out that neither team brings anything other than basic clothing. No blasters, phasers, lightsabres, tricorders, etc.

Also, there should be a third Poll option: Everybody dies. I'm not sure why the BBS didn't take it. If a Mod would be so kind as to add it, I'd appreciate it.

And there you have it!

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-11-17 07:06pm

Force abilities should come in handy.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-17 07:31pm

The War's team is superior, even ignoring Luke's Jedi skills. The members are far more familiar with basic technology and improvising. Though the big question is, do they know about the darkness and the raptors ahead of time? If not then Luke may well be the only survivor of both teams.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2003-11-17 07:43pm

A 60 odd year old Captain, a 40 year old Commander, a 55 year old Doctor and a blind man?

Quite a match we have there, maybe 'Bridge Crew of HMS Invincible Vs 8 SAS soldiers' is the type of thread you like, but this is silly.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2003-11-17 07:44pm

Well aren't I a silly pudding, I didn't factor in the Pitch Black factor. Wars still wins against an old bunch of starship crewmembers.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-17 08:03pm

Everybody Dies!

'Cause it's always the best answer!

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2003-11-17 08:27pm

Everyone dies but Luke, because he goes into a Jedi healing trance and doesn't need food for a week, while everyone else starves.

Star Wars wins

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-11-17 10:10pm

Since I have not watch this movie I vote, everyone dies seems like an abstain vote.~Jason

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-11-17 11:57pm

You gave Luke access to technology, he's a Jedi Knight, and you don't think he can come up with a Lightsaber?

Star Wars wins it. Luke could sense the raptors, just move a boulder or two in front of the cave to keep them out (or how many was needed) once the cave was cleared out by him using the Force to make the creatures leave, then they could all hide while Luke uses the Force to keep the creatures looking elsewhere.

"sniff, what's down here? There's nothing...."

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-11-18 09:48am

The Star Wars team wins. Vin Disel had only night vision yet he survived. With his force powers Luke can not only avoid the raptors but also fight them if necessary.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-18 10:15am

ALI_G wrote:A 60 odd year old Captain, a 40 year old Commander, a 55 year old Doctor and a blind man?

Actually, Geordi does have his implants, since they're basically inseparable from him. This means that the Star Trek side actually does have someone who can see clearly in the dark.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-18 10:18am

Howedar wrote:Force abilities should come in handy.

Handy, yes. But Obi-Wan pointed out to Anakin in AOTC that a Jedi without a lightsabre is pretty close to a sitting duck.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-11-18 10:21am

lly, Geordi does have his implants, since they're basically inseparable from him. This means that the Star Trek side actually does have someone who can see clearly in the dark.

Considering the fact that Vin Disel had worse vision than Geordi and survived I say the Trek side does stand a chance.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-11-18 10:22am

Handy, yes. But Obi-Wan pointed out to Anakin in AOTC that a Jedi without a lightsabre is pretty close to a sitting duck.

That depends on the nature of the enemy. Here a lightsabre is not needed.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-11-18 10:23am

A 60 odd year old Captain, a 40 year old Commander, a 55 year old Doctor and a blind man?

The trek side should have Data since the Star Wars side got Luke.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-18 10:33am

Solauren wrote:You gave Luke access to technology, he's a Jedi Knight, and you don't think he can come up with a Lightsaber?

Since he would require access to the Empire/Republic technology base, no, I don't think he can. The resources available on the Pitch Black planet aren't nearly as sophisticated.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-18 10:39am

Praxis wrote:Everyone dies but Luke, because he goes into a Jedi healing trance and doesn't need food for a week, while everyone else starves.

The hydroponic gardens work; starvation is not a problem.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-11-18 10:44am

As an aside, Pitch Black was a really crap movie.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-11-18 10:47am

Vympel wrote:As an aside, Pitch Black was a really crap movie.

I would not call it crap. It was just medicore.

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2003-11-18 01:17pm

Vympel wrote:As an aside, Pitch Black was a really crap movie.

No, it wasn't. It was good. I know it was, because I thought so.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-11-18 02:32pm

Vympel wrote:As an aside, Pitch Black was a really crap movie.

It had numerous bad points (like the total lack of a sensible ecosystem for the monsters), but it had some good points too (the characters, if fairly one-dimensional, were played pretty well).

Worlds Spanner · Post by **Worlds Spanner** » 2003-11-18 04:16pm

Ted C wrote:
On an unrelated side note, why is it that I casually refer to Star Wars characters by their first names but routinely find myself calling Star Trek characters by their last names.

Interesting. No doubt because the ST crew are officers on a starship who are in a command structure and go by rank and last name, while the SW crew are buddies who call themselves by their first names.

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2003-11-18 11:16pm

Trek team: two military officers, a surgeon who'd put any other human doctor in sci-fi to shame, and an engineer who can see the whole EM spectrum and God knows what else.

Wars team: one unarmed Jedi, one pilot and smuggler, a diplomat, and a crime boss cum mayor.

Trek, easily. Team Wars was hardly ever put in situations like this. Team Trek does this crap every other week, and they're all used to figuring out new species. And they can read Terran English. And they've got Radar LaForge.

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