Comparison between Trek Fans and Master and Comander fans

OT: anything goes!

Moderator: Edi

Post Reply
User avatar
Kitsune
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3412
Joined: 2003-04-05 10:52pm
Location: Foxes Den
Contact:

Comparison between Trek Fans and Master and Comander fans

Post by Kitsune »

In Entertainment Weekly, they do a comparison between Star trek and Master and Commander and that they both have Rapid fans. Do people agree with this comparison?
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
HemlockGrey
Fucking Awesome
Posts: 13834
Joined: 2002-07-04 03:21pm

Post by HemlockGrey »

I doubt the majority of Trekkies are capable of being rapid. :P
The End of Suburbia
"If more cars are inevitable, must there not be roads for them to run on?"
-Robert Moses

"The Wire" is the best show in the history of television. Watch it today.
User avatar
DPDarkPrimus
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 18399
Joined: 2002-11-22 11:02pm
Location: Iowa
Contact:

Post by DPDarkPrimus »

Are there Master and Commander fans trying to argue about how they could defeat modern battleships?

If not, the comparison is invalid.
Mayabird is my girlfriend
Justice League:BotM:MM:SDnet City Watch:Cybertron's Finest
"Well then, science is bullshit. "
-revprez, with yet another brilliant rebuttal.
User avatar
Kitsune
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3412
Joined: 2003-04-05 10:52pm
Location: Foxes Den
Contact:

Post by Kitsune »

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Are there Master and Commander fans trying to argue about how they could defeat modern battleships?

If not, the comparison is invalid.
One of the specific points is that Master and Commander fans love the Naval Techno-babble with trekkies love Treknobable.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Kitsune wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Are there Master and Commander fans trying to argue about how they could defeat modern battleships?

If not, the comparison is invalid.
One of the specific points is that Master and Commander fans love the Naval Techno-babble with trekkies love Treknobable.
While the Aubery-Martin novels have a lot of naval terminology/jargon it's not the same thing as technobabble. It's used properly and in an appropriate context.

As opposed to Trek which managles terminology and pisses on science.
Image
User avatar
Kitsune
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3412
Joined: 2003-04-05 10:52pm
Location: Foxes Den
Contact:

Post by Kitsune »

Stormbringer wrote: While the Aubery-Martin novels have a lot of naval terminology/jargon it's not the same thing as technobabble. It's used properly and in an appropriate context.

As opposed to Trek which managles terminology and pisses on science.
I agree but it might indicate that "People" as the writers of Entertainment Weekly consider the naval terminology to consider naval terminology to be the same as teh twisted stuff that comes from Star Trek.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Kitsune wrote:I agree but it might indicate that "People" as the writers of Entertainment Weekly consider the naval terminology to consider naval terminology to be the same as teh twisted stuff that comes from Star Trek.
Well, the Entertainment Weekly people are a bunch of barely literate gossip whores that have disguised themselves as an entertainment magazine.
Image
User avatar
GrandMasterTerwynn
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 6787
Joined: 2002-07-29 06:14pm
Location: Somewhere on Earth.

Post by GrandMasterTerwynn »

Stormbringer wrote:
Kitsune wrote:I agree but it might indicate that "People" as the writers of Entertainment Weekly consider the naval terminology to consider naval terminology to be the same as teh twisted stuff that comes from Star Trek.
Well, the Entertainment Weekly people are a bunch of barely literate gossip whores that have disguised themselves as an entertainment magazine.
"Barely literate gossip whores" How does this differ from every other entertainment magazine out there?
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:"Barely literate gossip whores" How does this differ from every other entertainment magazine out there?
Well, once upon a time Entertainment Weekly used to have news about movies and some fairly interesting behind the scenes stuff. It still does on ocassion.
Image
User avatar
LordShaithis
Redshirt
Posts: 3179
Joined: 2002-07-08 11:02am
Location: Michigan

Post by LordShaithis »

For some reason EW loves to brand every single movie with two male leads as being gay.
If Religion and Politics were characters on a soap opera, Religion would be the one that goes insane with jealousy over Politics' intimate relationship with Reality, and secretly murder Politics in the night, skin the corpse, and run around its apartment wearing the skin like a cape shouting "My votes now! All votes for me! Wheeee!" -- Lagmonster
User avatar
Patrick Degan
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 14847
Joined: 2002-07-15 08:06am
Location: Orleanian in exile

Post by Patrick Degan »

The EW writers are unlettered morons who've just shown their great, gaping ignorance as to one of Star Trek's primary sources.

The joys of living in an illiterate culture, eh?
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln

People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House

Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Patrick Degan wrote:The EW writers are unlettered morons who've just shown their great, gaping ignorance as to one of Star Trek's primary sources.
I think you're confusing the O'Brian's Aubrey-Martin novels with C.S. Forester's Hornblower novels. The latter were among the inspirations for Star Trek, where as the vast majority were of the former were published well after TOS was cancelled.
Image
User avatar
General Zod
Never Shuts Up
Posts: 29211
Joined: 2003-11-18 03:08pm
Location: The Clearance Rack
Contact:

Post by General Zod »

i'd say it's rather stupid to compare two fangroups of various subjects as having things in common unless the shows themselves have something directly in common. Otherwise it's just idiotic and pointless. kind of like comparing Football fans to trekkies. there just is no real comparison. on the other hand, if you want to compare football fans to basketball fans, then you have a possible valid topic of comparison. both are major sports venues.

same as star wars vs. star trek fans. both are widely recognized sci fi phenomena, and both are effectively the similar genre, and make sense to compare. but comparing the fans of a movie about naval battles to the fans of a sci fi series? it's lame.
User avatar
Patrick Degan
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 14847
Joined: 2002-07-15 08:06am
Location: Orleanian in exile

Post by Patrick Degan »

Stormbringer wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:The EW writers are unlettered morons who've just shown their great, gaping ignorance as to one of Star Trek's primary sources.
I think you're confusing the O'Brian's Aubrey-Martin novels with C.S. Forester's Hornblower novels. The latter were among the inspirations for Star Trek, where as the vast majority were of the former were published well after TOS was cancelled.
Not quite. I was referring more to the general literary genre rather than specific series/authour.
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln

People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House

Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
Post Reply