coruscant and oxygen

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-11-19 01:03am

The entire surface of planet Coruscant is one continuous city.

Where does breathable atmosphere come from?

I ask this because, AFAIK, only plant photosynthesis is the only large-scale method known for producing free oxygen, and I know of no large-scale plant life on the planet.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-19 01:03am

Atmospheric processing plants. Mechanically convert CO2 into O2.

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2003-11-19 08:53am

also there are those big organic "things" mentioned in the NJO. They are ike huge vats of organic stuff. But I don't remember the title

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2003-11-19 08:54am

That would again show how far progressed the SW galaxy is, when they could hold and clear the atmosphere of a big and populated planet like Coruscant without natural help.

I think that is very impressing.....

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-11-19 09:56am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Atmospheric processing plants. Mechanically convert CO2 into O2.

Something tells me that they're not using tiny grippers to physically pluck the CO2 apart. I'm guessing that they probably chemically convert CO2 to O2, though the question remains: what do they do with the excess carbon? My guess, which solves both conundrums, is that they use a photosynthetisis to convert the CO2 (along with H2O) to O2 and sugar, thereby solving both the atmosphereic problem and some of the food importation problem.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-19 11:11am

Gah, by "mechanical" I meant "artificial" means...

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-11-19 12:43pm

Darth Mall wrote:also there are those big organic "things" mentioned in the NJO. They are ike huge vats of organic stuff. But I don't remember the title

Devourers. From "Rebel Stand" By araon Allston

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2003-11-19 03:57pm

yeah thats what I meant, thanx

It also said that palpy could turn them off and starve sections of the city of oxygen IIRC. So couldthey be the only things making air?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-11-19 07:15pm

Darth Mall wrote:yeah thats what I meant, thanx

It also said that palpy could turn them off and starve sections of the city of oxygen IIRC. So couldthey be the only things making air?

Houseplants, perhaps?

Didn't the YV shut down the converters after invading Coruscant?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-11-19 07:41pm

Coruscant must be supported by vast biosphere-supporting plants to maintain its humidity, weather, and oxygen content at sentient-comfortable levels.

Coruscant generates/absorbs too much energy--I believe someone did a calc which proved that Coruscant as it exists must need large heat pumps (presumably to space) to keep the biosphere at habitable temperatures.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-11-19 08:46pm

Hmmm.. does Coruscant still have oceans?

If not, the more likely culprit may be actually from down below. Where there're probably a lot of algae-like growth.. either that or oxygen factories.

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2003-11-19 09:00pm

Coruscant has oceans or atleast big bodies of water, because in one of the NJO books (rebel stand??)mara gets sick while she is on one of Landos "islands" IIRC. But I think that anything in the oceans would be dead from years of sewage run off

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-11-19 10:06pm

The planet is near completely connected, but there are still isolated pockets on the planet that retain little or no civilization. The polls being one spot and presumably the few bodies of water as well.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2003-11-19 10:24pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Coruscant must be supported by vast biosphere-supporting plants to maintain its humidity, weather, and oxygen content at sentient-comfortable levels.

Coruscant generates/absorbs too much energy--I believe someone did a calc which proved that Coruscant as it exists must need large heat pumps (presumably to space) to keep the biosphere at habitable temperatures.

That's one of the most interesting faucets of Coruscant. Can anyone imagine how much waste heat and the like is generated by Courscant powerplants and energy hungry appliances?

The amount of thermal pollution would be incredible. Which brings me to my point.

What forms of technology would have been used to dissipate that heat away?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-11-19 11:48pm

PainRack wrote:What forms of technology would have been used to dissipate that heat away?

Thats relatively easy. Its obvious that Courscant doesn't have any active volcanoes. This indicates the planet itself is a dead planet. With a core that is not super heating it could be possible to drive massive heat sinks into the core and then disapate the energy into the core.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-11-20 12:05am

That's silly. There's not enough thermal gradient between the waste heat and the core.

Waste heat can be collected by heat sinks and converted into radiant energy and directly transmitted into the vacuum.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-11-20 12:10am

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
Darth Mall wrote:yeah thats what I meant, thanx

It also said that palpy could turn them off and starve sections of the city of oxygen IIRC. So couldthey be the only things making air?
Houseplants, perhaps?

Didn't the YV shut down the converters after invading Coruscant?

Yea, but with all the plant life that they introduced (assuming they convert CO2 to O2) I doubt it would have made a difference.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-11-20 12:12am

The YV almost certainly rapidly replaced the biosphere-maintenance plants with biological counterparts.

That's small compared to razing the top levels planet-wide and laying down some flora and fauna while moving the planet's friggin' orbit and grinding up a moon into a ring.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-11-20 12:32am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:That's small compared to razing the top levels planet-wide and laying down some flora and fauna while moving the planet's friggin' orbit and grinding up a moon into a ring.

That whole thing about making the rainbow or "Bridge" or whatever was never really explained very well. I just thought they'd done something to the atmosphere, I didn't know they ground up a moon!

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2003-11-20 05:15am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:That's silly. There's not enough thermal gradient between the waste heat and the core.

Waste heat can be collected by heat sinks and converted into radiant energy and directly transmitted into the vacuum.

How do you transfer the heat from the planet, up into space?

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-11-20 04:03pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:That whole thing about making the rainbow or "Bridge" or whatever was never really explained very well. I just thought they'd done something to the atmosphere, I didn't know they ground up a moon!

Heh, I didn't even know Coruscant had any moons. Although as it is in the movies, you can't even tell Coruscant has a sun (except for changing times of day).

As for oceans on Coruscant...while EU authors like Michael P. Kube-McDowell like to believe otherwise, simple observation of Coruscant's surface from the movies reveal that there are no bodies of water; none large enough to be of any significance. If there are any at all they are beneath the surface, like in Rogue Squadron where they had to destroy the underground resevoirs to destroy the planet's shield.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-11-20 04:09pm

PainRack wrote:How do you transfer the heat from the planet, up into space?

All you need in some sort of method, akin to how refrigeration works, of forcing heat into some sort of heat sink (we know from shielding technology they have ways to store enormous quantities of heat) and then radiate it into space.

Heat would naturally flow from the planet to cold space via radiation. The idea here is to accelerate the process to ensure the planet does not overheat.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-11-20 07:27pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:That whole thing about making the rainbow or "Bridge" or whatever was never really explained very well. I just thought they'd done something to the atmosphere, I didn't know they ground up a moon!
Heh, I didn't even know Coruscant had any moons. Although as it is in the movies, you can't even tell Coruscant has a sun (except for changing times of day).

As for oceans on Coruscant...while EU authors like Michael P. Kube-McDowell like to believe otherwise, simple observation of Coruscant's surface from the movies reveal that there are no bodies of water; none large enough to be of any significance. If there are any at all they are beneath the surface, like in Rogue Squadron where they had to destroy the underground resevoirs to destroy the planet's shield.

Well, I've just started reading The Final Prophecy and Corran and Tahiri have just crash landed a YV ship into the Western Sea, which is apparently the single body of water on Courscant.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-11-20 07:34pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote: If there are any at all they are beneath the surface, like in Rogue Squadron where they had to destroy the underground resevoirs to destroy the planet's shield.

IIRC they melted a bit of the polar ice cap, not destroy underground resevoirs

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-11-21 01:17am

What if the recycle the heat?? I mean they are creating gobs of it why not recycle it and put it to use?