Before hyperdrive

[Ender]

Aside from the fact that you agree from me yet are questioning me...

It suddenly is not possible to agree Coruscant != Earth while disagree with a specific claim and ask for clarification?

I misread what you were asking, read my latest

[Illuminatus Primus]

Upon rereading, if you are asking about Coruscan'ts gravity, its based off what the gravity was on the trade federation ship in TPM, as seen in the Jedi landing from the air shaft. There was no indication that this was special, implying that like most everything else it was the standard, and again like everything else the standard was coruscant.

And as was pointed out, its ~ 1.5, not 2+ like I misrecalled

A ship crewed entirely by droids and Nemodians is going to set its gravity to the prefered human setting? The Jedi agility and the droid agility compared with an Earth-type world like Naboo means different areas may have different gravities.

EDIT: I just don't see it being that far-fetched. Although, I thought WEG put out the gravity on Coruscant.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Stofsk, it's like this:

-Roughly one million years before Star Wars- (IIRC)

-Hyperspace Aliens build Centerpoint Station.

-HA use CS to pull planets from all over the Galaxy and position them to create what in the future will be known as the Corellian Star System.

-HA position dozens of black holes into a cluster near Kessel to create what will later be known as the Maw.

-HA then use the Maw to travel through time and space to the Milky Way Galaxy and find Earth while humans are in the Cro-Magnon stage.

-HA takes some humans back through time and space to the their home time in the Galaxy and plant humans and other assorted Earth plants and animals on the planet later to be called Corellia.

-HA may scatter leftover plants and animals on other planets nearby in the Galaxy.

-HA then use the Maw to exit our Universe to another dimension unknown.

-In my theory they become the Whills, and monitor all of Galactic history as it unfolds.

[Ender]

Upon rereading, if you are asking about Coruscan'ts gravity, its based off what the gravity was on the trade federation ship in TPM, as seen in the Jedi landing from the air shaft. There was no indication that this was special, implying that like most everything else it was the standard, and again like everything else the standard was coruscant.

And as was pointed out, its ~ 1.5, not 2+ like I misrecalled

A ship crewed entirely by droids and Nemodians is going to set its gravity to the prefered human setting?

No. But there is no sign Lot Dodd was uncomfortable on coruscant either, or that Moncar, or any other nemoudian in the Eu saw a significant different in Gs. So what they are used to and coruscannt should be rather similar.

The Jedi agility and the droid agility compared with an Earth-type world like Naboo means different areas may have different gravities.

Well first off Naboo is so fucked up it can hardly be called earth like. Secondly I did't notice a difference in the droids, and you would need to show that the diference for the Jedi is due to the gravity and not their use of more extreme abilities.

EDIT: I just don't see it being that far-fetched. Although, I thought WEG put out the gravity on Coruscant.

Yes, it was given a gravity IIRC, but a gravity relative to what? What is the base standard?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

The standard is based on those of Coruscant, like days and years are.

[Ender]

The standard is based on those of Coruscant, like days and years are.

No shit, that was my point.

[Stofsk]

That's right, because you made the extraordinary claim Earth is somewhere in the SW galaxy. Prove it.

Wrong newb. I said that there is no homeworld of humanity said to be in the GFFA. Thusly to assume there is one and ask me to prove that wrong is shifting the burden of proof.

Actually you said that Earth was in the SW galaxy, which as I said above, is an extraordinary claim. So prove it.

On the other hand, don't bother. The SW galaxy is 120'000 light years across according to Lando, Shield of Lies (p.39), while the Milky Way is 100'000 light years across (ref. any damn astronomy book). They're obviously the same galaxy.

So? Once again, prove that time travel is possible in the SW galaxy. Specifically, prove they can go back in time.

No fuckface. The homeworld is not in the GFFA, two species do not evolve on seperate worlds, and it is set in our past. Ergo, time travel into the past is necessitated by the premises.

And as I said before, the premise of SW makes no such requirement for time travel. Therefore, SW humans evolved on a single planet in the SW universe. Is it really so hard to understand?

No shit. Which is why SW humans evolved on one planet. But that doesn't matter to the story because humans are everywhere in the SW galaxy. They're so prevalent that the concept of a "cradle" world is unnecessary. We don't know where Humans originated.

No shit. But they had to originate somewhere. Species are not always in the post-interstellar travel phase y'know. They have to evolve somewhere.

Which is more plausible than suggesting time travel is the cause of human colonisation in the SW galaxy. Concession accepted.

That's a strawman anyway. I never said Humans evolved on multiple worlds. In fact, I said they evolved on one specific world, which due to interstellar colonisation has been forgotten. Which is more plausible than suggesting humans colonised backwards through time.

That world had to be Earth. The story is fictionally set in our past. Because Earth exists in the SW universe, it could not possibly have been any other world.

Bullshit. The story is not set in our past. It is set in theirs.

Having difficulty suspending disbelief? Did it not occur to you that the SW universe may be a different one from our own? Once again, prove the SW galaxy is the Milky Way. Prove that Earth is somewhere in the SW galaxy.

Spanky explained this in-depth enough for you.

That you called me a moron? I'm not the one holding onto the ludicrous position that the SW fiction took place in our galaxy. It is more plausible to suggest the SW humans evolved on a single planet in the SW galaxy, rather than they colonised from Earth by going backwards in time, which was your theory.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

The standard is based on those of Coruscant, like days and years are.

No shit, that was my point.

You asked a question so I answered it.

[Stofsk]

Stofsk, it's like this: *snip*

Thank you. I hadn't read any of that prior to just now. Is there a source for this?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

That you called me a moron? I'm not the one holding onto the ludicrous position that the SW fiction took place in our galaxy. It is more plausible to suggest the SW humans evolved on a single planet in the SW galaxy, rather than they colonised from Earth by going backwards in time, which was your theory.

He wasn't saying that, you stupid dumb shit. He stated a false argument as an example of your stuborn moronitude.

See my post above to understand what IP and I believe, dink.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Stofsk, it's like this: *snip*

Thank you. I hadn't read any of that prior to just now. Is there a source for this?

It's a pet theory based on information in the EU and logical conclusions connected together.

[Shrykull]

It is further away from the sun then earth, thus would have diferent living conditions then our species evolved in

Then how they keep warm, is there some planetwide heating "shield" perhaps, cause we see people outside in light clothing. Depends how far away, suppose it halfway the distance that Earth and Mars are away from each other in our solar system.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

It is further away from the sun then earth, thus would have diferent living conditions then our species evolved in

Then how they keep warm, is there some planetwide heating "shield" perhaps, cause we see people outside in light clothing. Depends how far away, suppose it halfway the distance that Earth and Mars are away from each other in our solar system.

Heat mirrors and such, as was mentioned in the thread. And we already know precisely how far Coruscant is from its star.

RTFT...

[Shrykull]

One of the premises of the story is it does take place in our universe, fictionally set long ago.

We don't know that it's long ago compared to today, though.

It is long ago from the perspective of the person telling the story. As to when the person telling the story lives, that's unknown.

Well, we seem to be the ones he's talking to, so long time ago in 77 and 99 when TPM came out.

[Illuminatus Primus]

No. But there is no sign Lot Dodd was uncomfortable on coruscant either, or that Moncar, or any other nemoudian in the Eu saw a significant different in Gs. So what they are used to and coruscannt should be rather similar.

Point taken. But I'd think Nemodians would be from either lighter-gravity worlds (height) or a heavier gravity world (generally larger frame and IIRC, strength).

Well first off Naboo is so fucked up it can hardly be called earth like. Secondly I did't notice a difference in the droids, and you would need to show that the diference for the Jedi is due to the gravity and not their use of more extreme abilities.

Conceded. Naboo is totally fucked up, but I meant in gravity it appears Earth-like.

Yes, it was given a gravity IIRC, but a gravity relative to what? What is the base standard?

Point taken.

[Rogue 9]

Actually you said that Earth was in the SW galaxy, which as I said above, is an extraordinary claim. So prove it.

Man, it is absolutely hilarious how everyone's misunderstanding each other here. Look, this thread is the first I've heard this theory, but let me try to put it together to see if I've got it right from what I've read.

1.) The aliens that built the Corellian system are capable of extragalactic travel and time travel. They use these capabilities to travel to the Milky Way. There they discover humans.

2.) These aliens transport humans from the Milky Way to the Star Wars galaxy in the past. (Note: The theory never required, suggested, or even left the possibility of Earth being in the Star Wars galaxy.)

3.) Humans develop in the SWG to the level we see in Star Wars. (This development is not parallel to the humans of the Milky Way due to the time travel bit.)

4.) The humans were presumably first deposited on Corellia and possibly the other planets in the system. When they developed along some more, the Corellians were gifted with hyperdrive by the system-building aliens, who then disappear for parts unknown.

Is that right? Or at least close?

If so, it has some holes (the aliens' motive for example). But its far more likely than parallel development of the same species in separate galaxies. And it in no way puts Earth in the Star Wars galaxy. Wondering how you got that over here Stofsk. They never said that.

[Illuminatus Primus]

*snip*

I didn't know they made dipshits like you.

The premise behind the story of Star Wars is that its a recovered archeological "text"--The Journal of the Whills. Thusly, the title cards, which are not in-universe anyway, are addressed to us.

I said that by this, our planet must exist in the SW Universe, because it is the same universe as ours (necessitated by title card). Therefore the humans must come from here.

I don't know how you butchered my position and ended up asking me to defend the claim that Earth was in the GFFA, which I never said.

Get a refund for your reading comprehension education.

[Stofsk]

I never read your theory until Spanky was kind enough to outline it for me. It was an honest mistake, I simply misunderstood what you were saying. Okay?

[Lord of the Farce]

I never read your theory until Spanky was kind enough to outline it for me. It was an honest mistake, I simply misunderstood what you were saying. Okay?

Just make sure that in future, you don't get "galaxy" and "universe" confused (which is what happened).

On-topic, quotes such as the ones quoted here indicates that subspace comm and sensor technology was very common during and previous to Xim the Despot's time, so something like ST's Warp technology being used pre-Hyperdrive is not inconceivable.