Kucinich publishes Dielbold memos

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-11-19 11:37pm

To protest Al Gore's attempted coup of the United States government, maybe?

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-19 11:39pm

Durran Korr wrote:To protest Al Gore's attempted coup of the United States government, maybe?

No smartass, to shut down (which they did) a recount that Gore was lawfully entitled to.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-19 11:46pm

Because of the same lists, 6,500 ineligible felons were actually allowed to vote and did so, according to the Palm Beach Post.

From what I've seen so far this is true. But blacks make up a tiny minority of the population in FL and the rate for blacks to be mislabled as felons was over 40%. Still points to targetting blacks due to their voting preferences.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-11-19 11:56pm

No, it points to a giant fucking mistake.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-20 12:00am

Durran Korr wrote:No, it points to a giant fucking mistake.

With blacks overwhelmingly taking it up the ass, among the most blatant examples of conflicts of interest ever, in a state run by Bush's brother and campaign members, who told DBT it didn't give a shit about false felon lists.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-20 12:01am

Indeed, a mistake that Jeb, Harris, and DBT KNEW was going to be made.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-20 12:09am

Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard, but Consortium spins ITS OWN FINDINGS, claiming that Bush won with undervotes DESPITE that the "two corner detatched standard" that allowed Bush these votes was prohibited by legal precedent! Election officials in Escambia County were therefore committing election fraud.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-11-20 12:15am

Blahhaha I predict next year Bush shall lead us into another war just to piss
you off hamel.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-20 12:33am

MKSheppard wrote:Blahhaha I predict next year Bush shall lead us into another war just to piss
you off hamel.

He has my blood pressure at dangerous levels right now.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-11-20 01:03am

Hamel wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:To protest Al Gore's attempted coup of the United States government, maybe?
No smartass, to shut down (which they did) a recount that Gore was lawfully entitled to.

You mean the same Al Gore that was determined to recount until he won regardless of the out come of the actual election? If we had it his way we'd still be recounting ballots today and never mind the Constituional crisis it would have created had we not had a President come Inuageration Day.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-11-20 01:03am

Hamel wrote:Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard, but Consortium spins ITS OWN FINDINGS, claiming that Bush won with undervotes DESPITE that the "two corner detatched standard" that allowed Bush these votes was prohibited by legal precedent! Election officials in Escambia County were therefore committing election fraud.

And Democrats.com is more reliable than the independent media.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-11-20 01:24am

Stormbringer wrote:
Hamel wrote:Media Consortium Statewide Count of "Undervotes" and "Overvotes" Proves Gore Won Under ANY Standard, but Consortium spins ITS OWN FINDINGS, claiming that Bush won with undervotes DESPITE that the "two corner detatched standard" that allowed Bush these votes was prohibited by legal precedent! Election officials in Escambia County were therefore committing election fraud.

And Democrats.com is more reliable than the independent media.

Hmmm .... And your proof that Democrats.com was lying or un-truethfull in that grandstanding, sweeping generalisation was where exactly?

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-20 06:00am

You mean the same Al Gore that was determined to recount until he won regardless of the out come of the actual election? If we had it his way we'd still be recounting ballots today and never mind the Constituional crisis it would have created had we not had a President come Inuageration Day.

Garbage. 1.25 million votes ended up not being recounted. This was in violation of state law which required a machine recount when the margin of victory was under .5%. A whopping 175,000 were never counted at all during the election because of rejection from voting machines, including the chad problems that were a result of clogged machines that weren't cleaned in two years, making it difficult to fully punch a hole, and votes that were rejected even when voters followed instructions fully (writing candidate name would often yield a rejection even though it was part of the instructions).

In short, James Baker is an obvious liar.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-20 08:54am

You now... this whole argument is pointless, what happened, happened, we can use it against Bush in the next election...

Personally I tink the Electoral College system needs to be culled, that is the REAL reason Gore lost... He had the popular vote, but the EC ass-raped him

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-11-20 09:28am

Stormbringer wrote: And isn't it funny that the media sponsored recount found Bush the winner? Though by the time it was completed September 11th had occured so no one paid attention.

"Media sponsored" recount? Please.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-11-20 01:11pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:You now... this whole argument is pointless, what happened, happened, we can use it against Bush in the next election...

Personally I tink the Electoral College system needs to be culled, that is the REAL reason Gore lost... He had the popular vote, but the EC ass-raped him

And I suppose you have a replacement system in mind that won't have every presidential election decided by the Northeast, California, and Florida, correct?

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-11-20 01:32pm

If a majority of the population lives in those places, why shouldn't they dominate?