And you never considered people haven't seen them before? Or that people change their minds, and have something different to say?Durandal wrote:And you never considered that we've had tons of these threads ever since the board's inception?Superman wrote:Uh, no dumb ass; I never said shit about religious fundamentalism. I posted it in here because I meant what I wrote in the title.
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For similar reasons that I want marijuana legalized. Coke and heroin are harmful, but the effort to reduce consumption via prohibition has been more harmful and largely ineffective. Remember that both drugs were widely and legally used in the early 20th century without the vast problems associated with them now. Plus, it's not the government's concern if someone harms themself, only if they harm others (real objectively verifiable harm, not fuzzy unfalsifiable shit like 'It hurts their families' or 'Communties suffer').BoredShirtless wrote:At the risk of hijacking Supermans thread...are you insane? Why do you want the hard drugs you just listed legalised?RedImperator wrote:Immediate legalization of marijuana, ecstacy, mushrooms, powder cocaine, and heroin, along with alochol and tobacco in jurisdictions where they're currently illegal. I'm undecided on LSD. PCP and all forms of methamphetamines remain illegal.
PCP and meth stay illegal not because they're more dangerous to the user, but because they make the user dangerous to those around him. Any drug that's highly addictive, makes the user more prone to violence, AND increases his pain tolerance is too dangerous to be legal. Plus, with coke and heroin legal, demand for more exotic and dangerous drugs should fall.
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Once again, HDS makes the unsupported claim that all drug users are useless dregs who deserve to die.His Divine Shadow wrote:I would also legalize them, however I would secretly mix them with poision, easy and quick way to get rid of the weeds in the garden.BoredShirtless wrote:At the risk of hijacking Supermans thread...are you insane? Why do you want the hard drugs you just listed legalised?RedImperator wrote:Immediate legalization of marijuana, ecstacy, mushrooms, powder cocaine, and heroin, along with alochol and tobacco in jurisdictions where they're currently illegal. I'm undecided on LSD. PCP and all forms of methamphetamines remain illegal.
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Source?RedImperator wrote: For similar reasons that I want marijuana legalized. Coke and heroin are harmful, but the effort to reduce consumption via prohibition has been more harmful and largely ineffective.
Please stop dancing. Your point is...?Remember that both drugs were widely and legally used in the early 20th century without the vast problems associated with them now.
It concerns those governments who provide public health.Plus, it's not the government's concern if someone harms themself,
Are you ok with assuming more people would start using them if they became legal?only if they harm others (real objectively verifiable harm, not fuzzy unfalsifiable shit like 'It hurts their families' or 'Communties suffer').
Hmmmm, should. If you want to change peoples minds, you'll have to do a lot better then "should".PCP and meth stay illegal not because they're more dangerous to the user, but because they make the user dangerous to those around him. Any drug that's highly addictive, makes the user more prone to violence, AND increases his pain tolerance is too dangerous to be legal. Plus, with coke and heroin legal, demand for more exotic and dangerous drugs should fall.
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They're fucked up morons by my standards and since I have the power I am more than willing to rid the world of them.RedImperator wrote:Once again, HDS makes the unsupported claim that all drug users are useless dregs who deserve to die.
I can't see how any sane person would put poison like heroin or cocaine or ecstasy in their bodies, what is wrong with these people? And the kids who do it? Well I do pity their parents to have years of work in raising a child be for naught.
Also, since I would provide public healthcare, it's in my best interests to make sure they do not live to enjoy it's benefits.
We are pretty much after the same thing, you seem to think that if drugs are available and legal, crime will go down, sure but the problem remains, also on some levels it condones such behaviour, I could simply not do that.
I OTOH think that if the drug users are not in the land of the living anymore they won't do crimes either and can be put to socially constructive tasks such as fertilizing flowers.
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That's funny, seeing as I've done E and yet I haven't become a leach on society's teat. I'm pretty sure I'm more useful to society doing my job and paying taxes than I would be fertilizing flowers (irony moment: I work in a lawn and garden supply store that sells fertilizer for flowers).His Divine Shadow wrote:<snip>
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Hmm. I would make the dealing of drugs a capital crime. No dealer shall ever kill one of my friends by selling him a secretly crack-laced joint again. Advocating the legalization of drugs would be punishable by 20 years in prison. The 21st Amendment to the Constitution would be repealed posthaste. Tobacco would be immediately banned, no questions, no exceptions, no excuses. Hmm. I have more, but I think this is already set up for a napalm strike as it is. *Puts on flameproof suit.*
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I'd try lots and lots of things which seem like good and practical ideas, only to discover that in reality, life doesnt quite look like that. Then I'd get very depressed, and go find a cave, and a posse of moose and wander round in purple tights and antlers for the rest of my days feeling very disillusioned with life.
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Yes. I would resign, and quickly. Only once one has born the burden of responsibility does he understand that it is indeed a heavy yoke to bear...Superman wrote:Who else has some ideas?
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Don't forget the asbestos underpants. You can never forget the asbestos underpants.Rogue 9 wrote:Hmm. I would make the dealing of drugs a capital crime. No dealer shall ever kill one of my friends by selling him a secretly crack-laced joint again. Advocating the legalization of drugs would be punishable by 20 years in prison. The 21st Amendment to the Constitution would be repealed posthaste. Tobacco would be immediately banned, no questions, no exceptions, no excuses. Hmm. I have more, but I think this is already set up for a napalm strike as it is. *Puts on flameproof suit.*
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Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
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