Question & Answer Session with Lucas-The Furry Conflict

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-11-20 08:12pm

Flurry Conflict wrote:The rumors of Lucas’ plans to change the original trilogy again after the release of Episode III are false.

*bitchslaps "Ultimate Edition" parrots*

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-11-20 08:22pm

As I asked him, Lucas leaned back a moment and said to me “Very little.” When he first had agreed to let people write Expanded Universe books, he had said “I’m not gonna read ‘em” and it was a “different universe” that he wanted to keep away from the time period of his saga. He jokingly complained, however, that now when he writes a script he has to look through an encyclopedia to make sure that a name he comes up with doesn’t come too close to something in the EU.

Do i see Dorkstar getting more ammo to his anti-EU & ICS arguments? Im quite sure he will try to mis-use this, but now we have pretty good understanding that the EU is not a universe outside that of the movie SW at all considering that Lucas doesnt want the movies to have persons with same names as in EU and thus uses an encyclopedia to see that there isnt one. Also, he only mentions keeping the EU away from the TIME PERIOD of his saga. Also, "very little" allready means that altough only a little, the EU does influence the movies.

Interesting. Any takes on this?

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-11-20 08:27pm

[Quote] Luke’s entry into the Death Star in ANH was not intended as erotic symbolism. (don't ask) [Quote]

Who the hell asked that question?

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-20 08:45pm

He is saying that the films and EU are basically two version of the universe. The joke he made is about how the EU has grown so much that its hard for him to invent unqiue names anymore. Lucas obviously disregards all EU and often times ends up undoing what has already been done in EU. He doesnt want to mess up EU intentionally because its a great way for the fans to enjoy epanded adventures in the SW universe so he encouraged EU writers to do mainly post-ANH stuff.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-11-20 09:13pm

zombie84 wrote:Lucas obviously disregards all EU and often times ends up undoing what has already been done in EU.

Oh, like he helped Vietch and Anderson on the KoToR comics...oh wait.

And how he let Zahn name Coruscant and took the descriptions and all...oh wait...

The female Twi-Lek from the EU...oh wait.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-20 09:23pm

Obviously he cares enough for it since it is his world, so helps out once in a while when it is necessary to consult with him but by and large his philosphy is "here is the universe, go play with it and do your thing and i'll do mine". His writting of the prequels has shown an obvious disregard for EU continuity (as he should) to the point where its obvious that the EU universe is an alternate version of the SW universe. Its nothing shocking, and it shouldnt hamper enjoyment of it, its just inevitable due to its nature. The EU authors do their best to try and explain and connect all the errors but its pretty useless. Its one thing when he helps an EU artist with their work, but when Lucas' contradicts, alters and changes the history at will--not to mention the immense differences in style, tone, story and characters--its obvious that the EU is considered a seperate entity from the film series. And its just as well because the EU is filled with shitty sci fi crap.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-11-20 09:44pm

Greedo was always supposed to have shot first. The original version was an editing error.

BOLLOCKS!!!

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » 2003-11-20 10:01pm

Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:Interesting. Any takes on this?

Given that it's sparsely-quoted hearsay (i.e we don't know the exact context those carefully chosen snippets were used in, or even that they're accurate), I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-11-21 12:04am

I wasn't able to write as fast as Mr. Lucas spoke, so I copied down some key statements and got the gist of the rest. Once I locate the tape that was made of the event, I'll be able to provide exact quotes. Nothing is taken out of context.

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-11-21 12:13am

Darksider wrote:
Luke’s entry into the Death Star in ANH was not intended as erotic symbolism. (don't ask)

Who the hell asked that question?

Some.. random girl. She warned us it would be an off the wall question, but still...

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-11-21 12:56am

Do i see Dorkstar getting more ammo to his anti-EU & ICS arguments?

How? I saw nothing here that helps DipShit in any of his delusional bullshit.

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-11-21 01:24am

Oh wow. I just thought I'd share, TheForce.net has picked up on the story. I know folks here aren't too fanatical about TF.N, but....I am too happy for words.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-11-21 01:46am

Lord Poe wrote:
Do i see Dorkstar getting more ammo to his anti-EU & ICS arguments?
How? I saw nothing here that helps DipShit in any of his delusional bullshit.

Has anyone read some of Darkstars feed back recently? There's one bit in there that says "Wong must fear you". My sides hurt.
(I know it doesn't belong here, but I thought it wasteful to make a new thread.)

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-11-21 01:48am

The bad acting in Episode II was “done on purpose” and is "part of the style.”

Whuzzah? Why would he do that? I don't think it added to anything at all to have a load of stuffy and embarassing acting in a film.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-21 02:33am

Rye wrote:
The bad acting in Episode II was “done on purpose” and is "part of the style.”
Whuzzah? Why would he do that? I don't think it added to anything at all to have a load of stuffy and embarassing acting in a film.

When you put it like that ("the bad acting is intentional") it sounds dumb but Lucas is very much correct. The SW dialogue is done in a particular style to emulate the cheesy, over the top dialogue of the 1930's serials that the films are based on. Have you ever seen movies from that period? You'd be amazed at how close they sound to the prequels style. The acting is kinda in the same vein as well. I dont know if it could be called "bad" acting, since it is emulating a particular style that is very different from modern method-style acting, but it is intentional. People forget that Star Wars is not some ultra-serious, moving epic film series like LOTR--its a 1930's serial. It would be nice if Lucas gave the epic story the treatment it deserves in a serious and dark series, but SW was conceived of as Flash Gordon, not The Odyssey. But having said that, the OT is still better written--it retains the style that Lucas is intending but comes off as more natural and dramatic.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-11-21 02:42am

Yeah, i'm a fan of old-skool b movie acting, but i don't think it came off like that at all. It sounded more like Pride and Prejudice trying to be Flash Gordon, and ended up irritating to watch, and didn't work the way it should.

A similar thing was in the OT, but i don't think it took itself too seriously, whereas it was taken more seriously in the new ones, and i dunno..like it was sanitised to super-family television pretend innocence rather than the carefree innocence turning to flash gordon feeling to the OT dialogue.

Or is it just 7 aM and i've had no sleep and am talking rubbish?

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-11-21 02:46am

It's just, the way in which he said it was "done on purpose" was just amusing.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-11-21 06:23am

Marc Xavier wrote:Oh wow. I just thought I'd share, TheForce.net has picked up on the story. I know folks here aren't too fanatical about TF.N, but....I am too happy for words.

No surprise it showed up there, since it seems to indicate you went out of your way to alert them about this little Q&A session. Nothing like a little self-aggrandizement.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » 2003-11-21 11:36am

Marc Xavier wrote:I wasn't able to write as fast as Mr. Lucas spoke, so I copied down some key statements and got the gist of the rest. Once I locate the tape that was made of the event, I'll be able to provide exact quotes. Nothing is taken out of context.

That's nice. This changes the fact that what's posted is patchy hearsay, how?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-21 12:07pm

Connor MacLeod wrote:
Marc Xavier wrote:Oh wow. I just thought I'd share, TheForce.net has picked up on the story. I know folks here aren't too fanatical about TF.N, but....I am too happy for words.
No surprise it showed up there, since it seems to indicate you went out of your way to alert them about this little Q&A session. Nothing like a little self-aggrandizement.

Is there much else to expect from Marc?

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-11-21 12:25pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Do i see Dorkstar getting more ammo to his anti-EU & ICS arguments?
How? I saw nothing here that helps DipShit in any of his delusional bullshit.

Neither do i but its not the question what we see that might help his cause, its what he sees. Particularily the "different universe" might make him think that he is right afterall.

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2003-11-21 01:48pm

Connor MacLeod wrote:
Marc Xavier wrote:Oh wow. I just thought I'd share, TheForce.net has picked up on the story. I know folks here aren't too fanatical about TF.N, but....I am too happy for words.
No surprise it showed up there, since it seems to indicate you went out of your way to alert them about this little Q&A session. Nothing like a little self-aggrandizement.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Is there much else to expect from Marc?

There's a reason I'm studying marketing at college. what's your point?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-11-22 05:13am

Lose the bashing, toolies. Marc did us all a great favor by reposting all that interesting info here.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-11-22 12:14pm

While I would prefer to get the exact thing he was talking about (and would love to know if my question about first names of palpatine & dooku came up), until then I'm not suprised by Lucas's response about the EU question. Look at what was asked: Not "How official are the EU books?" but "How much do the EU books influence the movies?". And Lucas said that when it came to writing the movies he treated the books as a different universe and rode roughshod over them. He ignored them and the EU has to adjust for the movies: Same policy as always. Says nothing about their status as official.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » 2003-11-22 06:44pm

Ender wrote:Same policy as always. Says nothing about their status as official.

I suppose there is also a question as to whether GL even considers tech manuals dealing with stuff from the films (like ICS) to be EU, or just the storylines/characters from the novels/comics/cartoons/etc. The apparently extensive use of the ICS books as film production references would certainly seem to indicate the latter.