Burger King will now allow breastfeeding in restaurants

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-11-22 09:32pm

Hmm only in America all I can say.

No one even raises an eyebrow if a woman breastfeeds a baby here.

I really cannot understand the attitude of some posters on this board.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-11-22 10:43pm

Howedar wrote:Only if they're hot.

Fucking agreed!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-11-22 11:56pm

What if the baby sees the mother's breast while he/she is feeding off of it? They'll probably be scared for life. Would you people please THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-11-23 12:32am

Darth Wong wrote:
Nathan F wrote:I love how, whenever someone is somewhat prudish about something, you always equate them with being Christian, Hamel.
That's because this is taking place in North America. If it were Saudi Arabia, the prudes would be Muslims. I mean seriously, who the fuck are you trying to kid? Are you seriously arguing that this sort of thing is not a holdover of Christian sexual puritanism?

I just don't like every Christian being equated as some puritan and intolerant Quaker. Heck, I'm Christian, and I see no problem with someone breastfeeding their child, and I'll see that you find most people have the same feeling. I mean, it's the vocal minority, not the majority, saying this stuff.

Omega-13 · Post by **Omega-13** » 2003-11-23 01:34am

Faram wrote:Hmm only in America all I can say.

No one even raises an eyebrow if a woman breastfeeds a baby here.

I really cannot understand the attitude of some posters on this board.

America exists in a bubble

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-23 03:08am

Nathan F wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:That's because this is taking place in North America. If it were Saudi Arabia, the prudes would be Muslims. I mean seriously, who the fuck are you trying to kid? Are you seriously arguing that this sort of thing is not a holdover of Christian sexual puritanism?
I just don't like every Christian being equated as some puritan and intolerant Quaker. Heck, I'm Christian, and I see no problem with someone breastfeeding their child, and I'll see that you find most people have the same feeling. I mean, it's the vocal minority, not the majority, saying this stuff.

Of course it's the vocal minority. But that vocal minority does happen to be Christian in this case. No one was inferring that all Christians feel this way just because the people who feel this way are generally Christians; that would be a logical fallacy. But the origin of the mindset in this case is clearly Christian; do we really need to explain that the Bible is not exactly in favor of sexual freedom or acceptance of the unclothed human body?

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2003-11-23 04:01am

Burger King is named "Hungry Jacks" in Western Australi due to someone using that name for a company which predates Burger King expanding into Western Australia.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-11-23 05:52am

if you need to feed your baby in public have a formula bottle or something. what happens if some 5 year old kid walks by and sees it?

OH MY GOD. THAT KID WILL BE CORRUPTED AND PERVERTED FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.

Or not.

Jesus, I would much rather see someone breast-feeding their child (even if they're not a pretty sight) than have to listen to a screaming baby. Hmm. Breastfeeding, screaming baby, which is more obtrusive and annoying?

And I completely agree that BK's burgers are far above and beyond the quality of McD's burgers, and while I think McD's has superior fries, it doesn't matter to me because I'd much rather have two sandwiches than a sandwich and fries.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-23 09:10am

I have no problem with breastfeeding in public, I don't always like looking, but it's their thing.

The only thing needed is a little discretion on their part, no more.

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-11-23 09:21am

What about the women's toilets/restrooms?

I mean... I agree that women should have the right to breast-feed their baby in a public building, but why not do it in the restroom? They're still in Burger King, they're still feeding their baby, and nobody can complain about being grossed-out. *Shrug.*

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-11-23 09:34am

Being in a restaurant filled with kids and other tired mommies, that is not a good idea.~Jason

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-11-23 02:11pm

Does this mean we can order D-cups as a beverage the drivethrough?

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-11-23 02:13pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:What about the women's toilets/restrooms? I mean... I agree that women should have the right to breast-feed their baby in a public building, but why not do it in the restroom? They're still in Burger King, they're still feeding their baby, and nobody can complain about being grossed-out. *Shrug.*

Yeah, feed your baby in a nasty restroom

That's fair

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-23 03:08pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:What about the women's toilets/restrooms? I mean... I agree that women should have the right to breast-feed their baby in a public building, but why not do it in the restroom? They're still in Burger King, they're still feeding their baby, and nobody can complain about being grossed-out. *Shrug.*

Oh right, perhaps we could also have a cordoned-off area so that prudish fuckwads won't see them. Let's just call it the fucking GULAG!

How about this for an idea: if the prudish asshats who don't like to see women breastfeed their children have a problem with it, THEY can leave instead of expecting the women to treat breastfeeding like it's a fucking taboo activity!

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-11-23 04:03pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:That's because this is taking place in North America. If it were Saudi Arabia, the prudes would be Muslims. I mean seriously, who the fuck are you trying to kid? Are you seriously arguing that this sort of thing is not a holdover of Christian sexual puritanism?
I just don't like every Christian being equated as some puritan and intolerant Quaker. Heck, I'm Christian, and I see no problem with someone breastfeeding their child, and I'll see that you find most people have the same feeling. I mean, it's the vocal minority, not the majority, saying this stuff.
Of course it's the vocal minority. But that vocal minority does happen to be Christian in this case. No one was inferring that all Christians feel this way just because the people who feel this way are generally Christians; that would be a logical fallacy. But the origin of the mindset in this case is clearly Christian; do we really need to explain that the Bible is not exactly in favor of sexual freedom or acceptance of the unclothed human body?

not everyone likes the idea of having to see a woman breastfeeding while in public. is it something completely natural? sure. then again so is pissing and taking a shit. does that mean i should be allowed to do that in a public resturaunt with everyone watching?

so what if someone doesn't want to see it in public or think it's acceptable. big fucking deal, it's called having an opinion that's different from yours.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-23 04:29pm

Darth_Zod wrote:not everyone likes the idea of having to see a woman breastfeeding while in public. is it something completely natural? sure. then again so is pissing and taking a shit. does that mean i should be allowed to do that in a public resturaunt with everyone watching?

Public defecation is a hygiene and sanitation issue, you idiotic fuckwit.

so what if someone doesn't want to see it in public or think it's acceptable. big fucking deal, it's called having an opinion that's different from yours.

No, it's called "trying to force other people to change their behaviour to suit your opinions". Let's get this straight, asshole: if you try to force women to breastfeed only where you can't see them, then you are not just "having an opinion"; you are trying to shove it down other peoples' throats and make them comply with it. Get it now, dumb-fuck? You are trying to force people to inconvenience themselves for your worthless prudish bullshit never-gotten-laid and never-deserve-to puritanical misogynist dumb-fuck attitudes.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-11-23 04:52pm

not everyone likes the idea of having to see a woman breastfeeding while in public.

Then don't fucking stare at her breasts.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-11-23 04:56pm

care to explain exactly how i'm attempting to force anyone to do anything? i stated how i felt on the issue and how i don't think it's something that needs to be seen in public resturaunts. i didn't expect very many would agree with me, that's simply how i feel on the subject. next thing i know i have 5+ people jumping down my throat because i'm supposedly a 'religious fundie' with a closed mind about the subject.

did i say i would attempt to actively prevent someone from breastfeeding in public? no. so stop being a zealot and accept the fact that people have opinions that may not agree with your supposed 'liberal' position.

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2003-11-23 04:59pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:What about the women's toilets/restrooms? I mean... I agree that women should have the right to breast-feed their baby in a public building, but why not do it in the restroom? They're still in Burger King, they're still feeding their baby, and nobody can complain about being grossed-out. *Shrug.*
Oh right, perhaps we could also have a cordoned-off area so that prudish fuckwads won't see them. Let's just call it the fucking GULAG!

Not only that, but public restrooms tend to be gross, and not a place you want to have to be unless necessary.

How about this for an idea: if the prudish asshats who don't like to see women breastfeed their children have a problem with it, THEY can leave instead of expecting the women to treat breastfeeding like it's a fucking taboo activity!

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2003-11-23 05:01pm

Darth_Zod wrote:care to explain exactly how i'm attempting to force anyone to do anything? i stated how i felt on the issue and how i don't think it's something that needs to be seen in public resturaunts. i didn't expect very many would agree with me, that's simply how i feel on the subject. next thing i know i have 5+ people jumping down my throat because i'm supposedly a 'religious fundie' with a closed mind about the subject.

did i say i would attempt to actively prevent someone from breastfeeding in public? no. so stop being a zealot and accept the fact that people have opinions that may not agree with your supposed 'liberal' position.

By that logic, racists who don't try and get racist laws passed aren't being close minded or ignorant.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-23 05:04pm

Darth_Zod wrote:care to explain exactly how i'm attempting to force anyone to do anything? i stated how i felt on the issue and how i don't think it's something that needs to be seen in public resturaunts.

So you think women should voluntarily banish themselves to solitude in order to satisfy your fucked-up value system, just so they can feed their children?

Here's an alternative idea: I don't think fuckwits like you should be seen in public restaurants if you have a problem with women doing something which is completely within their rights.

i didn't expect very many would agree with me, that's simply how i feel on the subject. next thing i know i have 5+ people jumping down my throat because i'm supposedly a 'religious fundie' with a closed mind about the subject.

I didn't call you a fundie; I called you a misogynistic prudish fuckwit. Do you have any idea how difficult it already is for women to raise children without assholes like you running around screaming that it's rude for them to breastfeed them in public?

did i say i would attempt to actively prevent someone from breastfeeding in public? no. so stop being a zealot and accept the fact that people have opinions that may not agree with your supposed 'liberal' position.

Of course you have an opinion that disagrees with mine, dumb-fuck. You think I don't know that? The problem is that your opinion is wrong, and if you have a problem with that, then maybe you could try to defend it instead of saying "well, it's just my opinion". Fucking idiot.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-11-23 05:13pm

calling opinions right or wrong is a logical fallacy. there's no such thing as a right or wrong opinion because they are not facts. and until they become a fact, then there's no way to call them correct or not.

it's like saying someone is wrong about how they felt on a movie or a law. does how they feel on something make them right or wrong at all? no. it simply gives them a different perspective on the same argument.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-23 05:16pm

Darth_Zod wrote:calling opinions right or wrong is a logical fallacy. there's no such thing as a right or wrong opinion because they are not facts. and until they become a fact, then there's no way to call them correct or not.

Incorrect. If you have an opinion that 2+2=5, it is wrong. That is not a fallacy. In this case, you have made the claim that it is wrong, ie- immoral for a woman to breastfeed in public. You have no justification whatsoever for this claim, nor have you even attempted to make one. Nothing is immoral by default; you must show how it harms anyone or anything, and you have not done so.

it's like saying someone is wrong about how they felt on a movie or a law. does how they feel on something make them right or wrong at all? no. it simply gives them a different perspective on the same argument.

Bullshit. You have made a claim about something which can be argued, and now your only recourse is to fall back on "it's just a subjective opinion". Sorry, but when you state that you think something is bad, then the onus is on you to explain why, and you have not done so. Frankly, we all know that the only reason it's "bad" is that you have serious fucking mental issues.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-11-23 05:36pm

Why do I get the feeling that Darth_Zod will soon be enjoying his brand new custom title?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-11-23 05:37pm

maybe i didn't explain my last post clearly enough.

an opinion is something that cannot be broken up into right or wrong, until it becomes a fact. so naturally, if someone states that 2+2=5 because it's their opinion, then they are automatically wrong because it is a quantifiable fact, which has already been proven. explain how whether or not being able to breastfeed in public is a quantifiable fact.

i didn't feel there was any need to explain or justify my opinion, as there are no facts involved, besides how i felt on the issue. which was all i was attempting to post in the first place.