Sadly it is German, but here a automatic translation. I don't know how bad the translation will be, be here we go:
The Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Scharon accused "collective antisemitism" to the Europeans. In an interview with the InterNet journal news service EUpolitix.com he warned at the same time, the increasing number of Muslims threatens "completely reliably the life of Jews". At present give it 17 million Muslims in Europe. However due to this "enormous number" concern it a "political topic."
Scharon reacted with his expressions among other things to a European-wide public opinion poll, in which a clear majority Israel classified largest danger for the world peace as a to time. 59 per cent of the asked ones represented this view. In second place called in each case 53 per cent the USA as well as Iran and North Korea. The inquiry was published at the beginning of November.
Scharon rejected it to draw a dividing line between criticism on the State of Israel and anti-Semitic expressions. "we talk about collective antisemitism. The State of Israel is a Jewish state and afterwards arranges itself also the attitude opposite Israel." The Israeli head of the government renewed his criticism at the European governments, that proceeded in their countries not sufficiently against anti-Semitic currents. The antisemitism is however no "new phenomenon", but always existed.
Devolution is quite as natural as evolution, and may be just as pleasing, or even a good deal more pleasing, to God. If the average man is made in God's image, then a man such as Beethoven or Aristotle is plainly superior to God, and so God may be jealous of him, and eager to see his superiority perish with his bodily frame.
Sharon throws out the distinction between anti-Semitic beliefs and legitimate criticism of Israel’s policies in the Middle East.
“Today there is no separation. We are talking about collective anti-Semitism. The state of Israel is a Jewish state and the attitude towards Israel runs accordingly.”
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“Since there is an ever strengthening Muslim presence in Europe, it certainly endangers the life of Jewish people.”
Well, Sharon is an extremist, even if he is correct to be worried about rising anti-Semitism in Europe. I do think he overstates it a bit.
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I'm studying for the CPA exam. Have a nice summer, and if you're down just sit back and realize that Joe is off somewhere, doing much worse than you are.
yay! we're only evil threat number 2! Maybe we should deliberately target civilians in a massive terrorist attack in an urban metropolis in an attempt to make a political point in a religious crusade of hatred and intolerance. Oh wait Bin Laden already did that and it didn't elevate them to the top place in the evil threat to world peace list.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:yay! we're only evil threat number 2! Maybe we should deliberately target civilians in a massive terrorist attack in an urban metropolis in an attempt to make a political point in a religious crusade of hatred and intolerance. Oh wait Bin Laden already did that and it didn't elevate them to the top place in the evil threat to world peace list.
Bin Laden ain't a country, I realise you may have heard "Bush can't find Bin laden" and equated with those stories about most Americans being able to find Iraq on a map but Bin Laden is actually an Arba chap who likes to blow stuff up.
No in case you didn't get that the poll was about the which COUNTRY was the greatest threat to world peace.
Durran Korr wrote:Well, Sharon is an extremist, even if he is correct to be worried about rising anti-Semitism in Europe. I do think he overstates it a bit.
Only natural when most of Europe, who brought you the Holocaust!, is on the side of the people regularly murdering his countrymen.
Sharon throws out the distinction between anti-Semitic beliefs and legitimate criticism of Israel’s policies in the Middle East.
“Today there is no separation. We are talking about collective anti-Semitism. The state of Israel is a Jewish state and the attitude towards Israel runs accordingly.”
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“Since there is an ever strengthening Muslim presence in Europe, it certainly endangers the life of Jewish people.”
Bitter old man.
When you call the Israeli state murderous and such for defending themselves against suicide bombers and there ilk then that line does get awfully blurry.
And when Muslim and Anti-Semite go hand in hand (as they do with Middle Eastern Muslim, even those that have immigrated to Europe) then he has a right to be concerned.
Stormbringer wrote:When you call the Israeli state murderous and such for defending themselves against suicide bombers and there ilk then that line does get awfully blurry.
As a mod, you of all people should know better than to deliberately drag this into the tired old "Israel vs Palestine", "suicide bomber vs ruthless occupation" morality issues upon which we enacted a moratorium a long time ago. This thread was originally about the fallacy of assuming that all anti-Israel criticism is anti-Semitic, and you had to turn it into a standard-issue Israel vs Palestine thread. Thanks a lot. Thread locked.
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Stormbringer wrote:When you call the Israeli state murderous and such for defending themselves against suicide bombers and there ilk then that line does get awfully blurry.
As a mod, you of all people should know better than to deliberately drag this into the tired old "Israel vs Palestine", "suicide bomber vs ruthless occupation" morality issues upon which we enacted a moratorium a long time ago. This thread was originally about the fallacy of assuming that all anti-Israel criticism is anti-Semitic, and you had to turn it into a standard-issue Israel vs Palestine thread. Thanks a lot. Thread locked.
I wasn't aware that merely mentioning it violates the moritorium. It's hard to dicuss Israeli criticism with out discussing what they're being criticised for.
