War On War Toys

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-11-25 12:10am

Like Toys Turn Kids Into Violent Sociopaths

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-11-25 12:17am

I find it odd that Star Wars isn't on the list. Especially considering the violent nature of most of the characters that are released.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-11-25 12:26am

neoolong wrote:I find it odd that Star Wars isn't on the list. Especially considering the violent nature of most of the characters that are released.

Be quiet don`t give them any ideas.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-11-25 12:33am

This is yet another confusing story line for pre-schoolers who have enough fears of their own without adding imaginary ones.

Why don't you dumbfucks shove a spoon up your collective ass and give kids some credit in figuring things out.

You fuck with the X-Men and you just crossed the fucking line

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-11-25 12:46am

No toy RPG?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-25 12:59am

If they ban the violent toys we'll just make our own. We used to just use metre long sticks and pretend they were rifles.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-11-25 01:38am

More crap from these people.

Lion & Lamb Project website wrote: Testimony

April 9, 2003
"There is a growing body of hard and verifiable evidence that suggests the violent and sexual content of entertainment media can be harmful to children's development," said Sen. Sam Brownback at a hearing on the Neurobiological Research and the Impact of Media. "Scientific research is clearly showing that watching violence makes people more violent – and not just at the time they watch the violence, that is, not just on the school yard as children, but years later, as adults. Many of us are already concerned about our society and our culture today – what happens when this generation grows up?" Additional testimony from this hearing is at http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/wit ... cfm?id=706

I found it interesting that in their review of toys they often complained that toys were labled for ages below what the movies they were based on were labled. It seems to me that they are mixing things up to a certain degree. In some cases the age listings for toys have more to do with which age group of kids the toys are physically safe enough for and not whether the toy will mentally warp the kid for life.

Also, just because a movie is PG-13 doesn't mean that no kids under 13 are going to see or enjoy the movie. The same goes for R rated movies and kids under 17. The ratings themself say stuff like "may not be appropriate for children under 13. The key word being "may".

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-11-25 01:42am

Tsyroc wrote:More crap from these people.

Lion & Lamb Project website wrote: Testimony

April 9, 2003
"There is a growing body of hard and verifiable evidence that suggests the violent and sexual content of entertainment media can be harmful to children's development," said Sen. Sam Brownback at a hearing on the Neurobiological Research and the Impact of Media. "Scientific research is clearly showing that watching violence makes people more violent – and not just at the time they watch the violence, that is, not just on the school yard as children, but years later, as adults. Many of us are already concerned about our society and our culture today – what happens when this generation grows up?" Additional testimony from this hearing is at http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/wit ... cfm?id=706
I found it interesting that in their review of toys they often complained that toys were labled for ages below what the movies they were based on were labled. It seems to me that they are mixing things up to a certain degree. In some cases the age listings for toys have more to do with which age group of kids the toys are physically safe enough for and not whether the toy will mentally warp the kid for life.

Also, just because a movie is PG-13 doesn't mean that no kids under 13 are going to see or enjoy the movie. The same goes for R rated movies and kids under 17. The ratings themself say stuff like "may not be appropriate for children under 13. The key word being "may".

Funny that they don't even attempt to justify their claim that sex damages kids

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-11-25 01:49am

Gandalf wrote:If they ban the violent toys we'll just make our own. We used to just use metre long sticks and pretend they were rifles.

Yeah, no kidding. I wonder if they ever heard of "Cop & robbers" and "Cowboys & Indians".....

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-11-25 01:56am

I remember a protest in the 80s about GI Joe and such.

Not that it did much.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-11-25 02:00am

Now that my anger has passed, I shall begin my laughing.

Come on, can any of you say that you thought Mario was ever real?

The second thing I learned is that children under the age of eight can not separate fact from fiction: That is why they believe in the Tooth Fairy, and worry about monsters under their beds. This is also the reason that children may not understand why it is acceptable for television characters to continually hit, kick and shoot each other -- but it is not acceptable for children to behave in this way on the playground.

What are the lessons that children learn from such "entertainment"? That violence and destruction are fun. That shooting doesn't kill ... or even hurt. That ruthless competition is a winning strategy.

About Transformers:

The brand: This is another toy/TV program with a totally inappropriate story line for preschoolers. From the Razorclaw toy box: "In the distant future, the evil Unicron wages a final war for ultimate control of the Universe … As the enemy sides clash in the biggest war the Universe has ever seen, their bodies emit a powerful radiation known as Energon. Little do they know that Unicron is secretly harvesting this mysterious force to increase his own strength!" A tot prequel for The Matrix?

Also funny how she attacks games targeted at teens and implies toddlers are being harmed. Also for many products she attacks the license(for example the Fast and the Furious diecast cars) rather than the product itself.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-25 02:17am

Nobody is taking away my boys' inventory of violent toys!

Actually, that's not all of them. The toy aircraft carrier and battleship didn't fit in the frame, nor did some of their other stuff. Oh well.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-11-25 02:22am

So do your kids have a favorite weapon loadout?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-25 02:23am

I still have to ask, where did the black lightsabre come from?

I don't think there was an answer last time I asked.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-25 02:25am

Gandalf wrote:I still have to ask, where did the black lightsabre come from?

I don't think there was an answer last time I asked.

It actually looks blue when it's lit up.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-25 02:27am

Ah, thanks.

Thought it was some weird limited edition thing.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-11-25 05:09am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:I remember a protest in the 80s about GI Joe and such.

Not that it did much.

Considering that nobody actually hit anybody with their guns, there really isn't that much to protest.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-11-25 07:19am

i had violent toys as a child and i turned out....erm..well maybe i'm not the best example.

by the way Mike, nice hardwood floors! What is that, oak?

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-11-25 07:41am

The reason we believed in the tooth fairy is because we were LIED to by our parents and it was bolstered by the fact that there was a tangible reward....

As for monsters under the bed, sure I worried about it. I was scared sometimes, and quite honestly, I found myself wishing I had some guns like my 'Joes. Then I'd go kill that fucker.

I came up in the 80's with movies like "The Cat People" and "Nightmare on Elm Street" being new and fresh and, quite frankly, scary as hell. And yes, an overactive imagination gave frightening form to some of these movie monsters (Especially the bunyip from that old HBO cartoon Dot and the Kangaroo) but I always knew that cartoons were cartoons, Rambo wasn't really slaughtering police officers with callous indifference, and Michael Knight did not REALLY have a super-intelligent talking car, and people did not rip off their faces and eat mice. Someone needs to go ask these people how they managed to make it to the age they are without spending 90% of their childhood cowering in a corner, doped up on ritalin because of all the scary, violent, sexual cartoons and Video games and T.V shows out there....

Christ, how did humans manage to survive this long?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-11-25 08:47am

Times like these make me wonder how they came to be given that Looney Toons existed when they were children.

So I guess we should be looking at their generation to see if anyone is dropping Anvils on each other...damn the stupidity.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-11-25 09:22am

Ghost Rider wrote:Times like these make me wonder how they came to be given that Looney Toons existed when they were children.

So I guess we should be looking at their generation to see if anyone is dropping Anvils on each other...damn the stupidity.

Not to mention Yosemite Sam and his trigger happy ways with a six-shooter, and Elmer Fudd with his muzzle loading rifle, (brilliant examples of firearms safety there) and Wile E Coyote playing with dynamite, rockets, and improvised weapons. And throwing cats out of windows and beating animals with blunt objects was also a common occurence. Fact is there's few things more funny than senseless cartoon violence.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-25 09:33am

aerius wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Times like these make me wonder how they came to be given that Looney Toons existed when they were children.

So I guess we should be looking at their generation to see if anyone is dropping Anvils on each other...damn the stupidity.
Not to mention Yosemite Sam and his trigger happy ways with a six-shooter, and Elmer Fudd with his muzzle loading rifle, (brilliant examples of firearms safety there) and Wile E Coyote playing with dynamite, rockets, and improvised weapons. And throwing cats out of windows and beating animals with blunt objects was also a common occurence. Fact is there's few things more funny than senseless cartoon violence.

Case in point: Itchy and Scratchy.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-11-25 10:17am

Hah! I knew they'd get on Manhunt

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-25 10:22am

aerius wrote:Not to mention Yosemite Sam and his trigger happy ways with a six-shooter, and Elmer Fudd with his muzzle loading rifle, (brilliant examples of firearms safety there) and Wile E Coyote playing with dynamite, rockets, and improvised weapons. And throwing cats out of windows and beating animals with blunt objects was also a common occurence. Fact is there's few things more funny than senseless cartoon violence.

Although you must admit that when you were a kid, you too wondered just what kind of things you could really order from ACME.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-11-25 10:40am

I've noticed, regarding cartoons, (wile E. coyote specifically) That as I watched them as a child, I just watched, entertained, nothing more. But when I see them now....OMFG, I miss most of the cartoon for laughing so hard! My all time faves are Daffy Duck as Robin Hood: YOIKES AND AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!! *SMACK* YOIKES AND AWAAAAAAAAY! and "Waddaya know? It disintegrated."