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Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-24 09:50am

It's also on the character sheet, but listing it here too would be handy.

Oh btw, I changed my mind about the XP based on skill use. Since roleplaying is its own reward, and everyone's doing a good job anyway, I think we can just give XP based on the number of turns executed. Let me know what you all think.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-11-24 05:45pm

Everytime I start thinking about it, I keep creating a more and more convolute scheme. I tried simplifying it. How does this sound to everyone?

+ 1 xp for every successful turn. (Here, successful defined as "you didn't die.")
+ 1 xp per turn for unsuccessful use of skill or talent. (Intent not achieved.)
+ ½ xp per turn for every attacking NPC killed or neutralized. (This also applies to NPC 'tails' who are lost or shaken.)
+ ½ xp per turn for successful skill or talent use. (Here, successful defined as "you accomplished your goal, by intent not accident.)
+ ½ xp per turn for accidental success. (Despite lack of skill or talent, PC achieved intended goal.)
0 xp awarded when PC is rendered unconscious, for the duration of time PC is unconscious.
+ N xp awarded by GM at the GM's whim.

Not a be-all/end-all list to be sure. I tried to make it turn and skill oriented, weighted towards turns. That way, we're not trying to squeeze in as many skill and talent checks (which could become 'power gaming' of a sort). Oh, and for this a turn is defined by when the GM posts. GM's posts end a previous turn and begins the next. That way, it's not a matter of pure post count either.

EDIT

Damn, even my 'simple' scheme looks complicated when applied. I started mentally making more and more rules, thereby complicating it. The more I think about it, simply surviving to the next round is good enough for 1 xp.

But just because I can't let it go, here's a revision:

+ Any discretionary GM allotments.
-plus-
+ 1 xp for every successful turn. (Every turn you live to tell about.)
-plus either-
+ 1 xp per turn for unsuccessful use of skill or talent.
-or-
+ ½ xp per turn for successful use of skill or talent.

But to reiterate, the shining simplicity of 1 xp per turn is very appealing.

Gerard_Paloma · Post by **Gerard_Paloma** » 2003-11-24 11:36pm

CorSec wrote:But to reiterate, the shining simplicity of 1 xp per turn is very appealing.

*points to CorSec* What he said.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-25 04:19pm

I like your system CorSec. Thanks for contributing. I'd just like to change it a wee bit:

1. 1 XP per turn in which the character remained alive and conscious

2. 1 XP per turn in which a skill or skills were used unsuccessfully while under pressure, half that if one or more rolls were successful.

3. Any amount of XP whenever I feel like it

The "while under pressure" bit is important. Making spot and awareness checks all the time don't get you anything that way, which is how it should be. Also this way, using multiple actions to net multiple failures for XP purposes don't get you anywhere either.

EDIT: Since going back through the whole official thread would be a pain in the ass, I'll award everyone 30 XP for everything that's happened thus far. From this point on, keeping track (or not keeping track) of XP is everyone's own business. When you decide to spend XP to increase something, send the updated sheet to Gerard. This goes for any other changes, too. Any difference from the sheet that's on bladesandbarmaids.net is not valid.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-11-25 07:12pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:The "while under pressure" bit is important. Making spot and awareness checks all the time don't get you anything that way, which is how it should be.

That's a good change. Now we just need to define "under pressure", eh? I mean, technically, being surrounded by goons who would just as soon squish me as look at me could be considered operating under pressure. But having taken a peek at BB 3.0, I know that's not the case. How about "in immediate peril"? (I'm being an ass - and I can't stop myself. I know we can all easily understand what is meant by "under pressure".)

Gerard_Paloma · Post by **Gerard_Paloma** » 2003-11-26 01:33am

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:From this point on, keeping track (or not keeping track) of XP is everyone's own business.

Dammit, you mean I'm actually going to have keep track of my own XP? Shit.

But seriously, not that I would ever do this, but how do you expect to keep people honest? I'm not casting dispersions on anyone, just saying that given the opportunity, I'd sure as hell cheat to get ahead. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but I'd like to think that there are others out there like me.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-26 01:44am

....

What? I earned each of those three thousand, nine hundred and fifty three XP, fair and square.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-26 05:30pm

Gerard_Paloma wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:From this point on, keeping track (or not keeping track) of XP is everyone's own business.
Dammit, you mean I'm actually going to have keep track of my own XP? Shit.

But seriously, not that I would ever do this, but how do you expect to keep people honest? I'm not casting dispersions on anyone, just saying that given the opportunity, I'd sure as hell cheat to get ahead. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but I'd like to think that there are others out there like me.

Adding undeserved amounts that were small enough to not be noticed wouldn't really get you anywhere anyway.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-11-26 05:44pm

Huzzah! 1.0001 xp per post, here I come!

Gerard_Paloma · Post by **Gerard_Paloma** » 2003-11-28 03:33am

Forgot to mention this when I did it, but I've updated CorSec's sheet, as well as my own. Still haven't gotten anything from anyone else. 30 XP, guys, that's no chump change, spend that shit.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-29 07:47pm

So, are we just taking a breather for Thanksgiving or what? It's been like 3 days with no posts on the campaign thread.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-29 07:48pm

I dont know about you, but I have hardly NOT been on all weekend...

Marcao · Post by **Marcao** » 2003-11-29 08:01pm

It's not my turn to post really. I am just waiting for Mikal to show up for the drive. I am also trying to update my character sheet.

Gerard_Paloma · Post by **Gerard_Paloma** » 2003-11-29 09:26pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:So, are we just taking a breather for Thanksgiving or what? It's been like 3 days with no posts on the campaign thread.

Well, I've been on, but I can't post again until the next turn. I believe we're still waiting for Utsanomiko, Hotfoot, and Marcao (who is waiting for Hotfoot). So it's really Utsanomiko and Hotfoot that are holding up the works. I guess they're real big on Thanksgiving, and spend 4 days celebrating.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-29 10:33pm

I'm going to have to apologize, but factors beyond my control are keeping me from updating and playing as quickly as I'd like. Since I'm currently separated from everyone else, (well, technically I'm supposed to meet with Marcao, but still), feel free to execute the turns without me for the moment, and I'll try to catch up retroactively.

But yeah, thanksgiving and end of semester stuff. Last year the damn semester ended five days before Christmas. This year it's like three weeks. Thrown me off just a bit, plus there's the turkey brain-killing factor. My second mind is off...just a tad.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-30 02:38am

Hotfoot wrote:I'm going to have to apologize, but factors beyond my control are keeping me from updating and playing as quickly as I'd like. Since I'm currently separated from everyone else, (well, technically I'm supposed to meet with Marcao, but still), feel free to execute the turns without me for the moment, and I'll try to catch up retroactively.

But yeah, thanksgiving and end of semester stuff. Last year the damn semester ended five days before Christmas. This year it's like three weeks. Thrown me off just a bit, plus there's the turkey brain-killing factor. My second mind is off...just a tad.

So use your first mind

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-11-30 02:45am

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:So use your first mind

Ooo boy....that would get....messy at this point.

...but, hey, you're the GM...

*begins writing Mikal's treatise on optics and quanta*

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-30 07:40pm

With the 41 xp I have garnered over the course of this campaign, my Telepathy skill, is going up to 10 skill points.

My attribute for telepathy related stuff is now 19 for future reference.

I am also using the remaining 3xp to bring my leadership skill to 2 skill points... After all, ordering someone around is litle different from telling them their hands are burning.

Marcao · Post by **Marcao** » 2003-11-30 08:46pm

I got a question for you guys.

what the hell is a talent in the CP rules? I figure that talents are ranged and education and that is it. Is that right? How much would I pay to get my ranged from 5 to 6? how about from 5 to 7?

what the hell is a major skill?
what the hell is a minor skill?

Sorry, but I am lost about the whole applying experience thing. So I need help.

Also, I thought it was 30 xp for everyone? How did Alyrium get 41?

Alan

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-30 09:05pm

see that xp system above? I used it. Keeping track of your own x is a joy.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-11-30 10:46pm

Marcao wrote:How much would I pay to get my ranged from 5 to 6?

6 points.

how about from 5 to 7?

6+7=13, so 13 points.

Hotfoot created a handy-dandy excel page that'll help you keep track of such things. [url=http://www.bladesandbarmaids.net/downlo ... lChart.xls]Here.[/quote]

Down the left side of the chart are numbers indicating how many points a given skill has. Across the top are the different tiers of skills (which are found on your character sheet). You simply put in a number for the number of skills that you have at a given level and the sheet tallies how much xp it takes to reach it.

I'm certain I didn't explain that clearly, hopefully you can figure it out by looking at the link to the sheet above.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-30 11:21pm

Marcao wrote:I got a question for you guys.

what the hell is a talent in the CP rules? I figure that talents are ranged and education and that is it. Is that right? How much would I pay to get my ranged from 5 to 6? how about from 5 to 7?

what the hell is a major skill?
what the hell is a minor skill?

Sorry, but I am lost about the whole applying experience thing. So I need help.

Did you read about Talents and such in the third edition Big Book? Because we're not using those. We're still doing Tier 1, 2, and 3 like we always were. So ranged to 6 costs 12, and from 6 to 7 is 14 (so 26 for 5 to 7).[/quote]

Also, I thought it was 30 xp for everyone? How did Alyrium get 41?

He didn't. It's 30 for everyone. The above rules apply from now on, not retroactively. *peers at Alyrium*

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-30 11:23pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:see that xp system above? I used it. Keeping track of your own x is a joy.

That XP system above applies from this point on. It's 30 XP for everyone right now.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-11-30 11:25pm

Darth Utsanomiko wrote:((Sorry, been busy for the past 4-5 days, Stupid family bullshit and Spanky dragging me away for his film project any time I wasn't busy. I'll have to add up my exp in the next day or so.))

No problem. Shit happens. Thanks for letting us know.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-11-30 11:38pm

bloddy hell, didt see the damn post *fumes at my now, distinct lack of telepathy skill, with an attribute of 18 instead of 19, with no leadership skill)

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