M-16 vs. AK-47/AK-74

[His Divine Shadow]

Hey, whoa, I found it, and an excellent site on the Finnish Army:
http://hem.passagen.se/finnisharmyequipment/index2.htm

The weapon is the 7.62 KvKK 62 light machinegun, a real oldie, just like the kind we're expected to have at the swedish brigade.

[Vympel]

I dunno, we just called it MG-88 Machine-Gun model 88 or something, they said it was russian, I never found out much about.
7.62mm it was.

It must've been a PKM (7.62x54mm rimmed cartridge). There's no other Russian-built machine gun in the Finnish inventory. The Finnish-built KvKK is being phased out in favor of the PKM, Oberleutnant tells me.

[Pendragon]

Correct my if I'm wrong, but isnt the M-76 chambered in 5,56x45 rather than 7,62x39?
And were the sights adjustable? Because the major issue with the AK's accuracy were that you had to compensate "manually" instead of zeroing the sights. With adjustable sights, I dont see why it shouldnt be as accurate as any assault rifle.

Because the action is very violent. As I've said the AK-47 is very reliable because it's overpowered, which also makes it less accurate.

Uhm, If your claiming that the AK has a nasty recoil, I must beg to differ. Even on full auto it stays pretty much where it is, at least compared to the few other assault rifles I had the oppurtunity to fire.
The recoil isnt bad at all actually.

[His Divine Shadow]

The Finnish-built KvKK is being phased out in favor of the PKM, Oberleutnant tells me.

Thats weird, we used the KvKK and they said it was russian...
Ofcourse we never got the best equippment either, for example only the Jaeger company had the new M95's, we all had RK-62/76's

Though personally thats better since they are lighter and more resiliant, though I wouldn't have minded an RK-76 with a foldable stock.

[Vympel]

Thats weird, we used the KvKK and they said it was russian...
Ofcourse we never got the best equippment either, for example only the Jaeger company had the new M95's, we all had RK-62/76's

Though personally thats better since they are lighter and more resiliant, though I wouldn't have minded an RK-76 with a foldable stock.

They told you an indigenous Finnish MG was Russian?

[His Divine Shadow]

They told you an indigenous Finnish MG was Russian?

Well they where just under-sergeants, what the fuck do they know anyway? They've just been there six months longer than us anyway...

The MG-88 they called it...

BTW, that's one usefull site.

[Sir Sirius]

You were told that the KvKK was Russian?! Are you sure that they said that it was Russian rather then saying that it was "Ryssäksi tehty" (Russian made = crap)? The former requirs a rather mindbogling amount of ignorance, the later I can understand.

BTW Alikersantti = Corporal.

[His Divine Shadow]

You were told that the KvKK was Russian?! Are you sure that they said that it was Russian rather then saying that it was "Ryssäksi tehty" (Russian made = crap)? The former requirs a rather mindbogling amount of ignorance, the later I can understand.

Swedish brigade so that possibility doesn't apply.
And IIRC they said it was russian, unless it's my memory, but I tell you, we werent a Jaeger company, this was a Signal Battery, we where never intended to use MG's, only assault rifles, and where supposed to be away from the front lines anyway, and the under-sergeants I had where mainly arrogant city-boys who couldn't find their way in the woods.

[AdmiralTDM]

Oh well im insane...

I believe in the M-14 all the way.. Though I also like the mini-14 since its just a smaller version of the M-14 shooting 5.56 ammo * same as M-16*

[His Divine Shadow]

Oh well im insane...

I believe in the M-14 all the way.. Though I also like the mini-14 since its just a smaller version of the M-14 shooting 5.56 ammo * same as M-16*

IOW, it's for pussies!