Virus-X Debate (updated Dec 15!)
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This latest VX response has become extremely dishonest. Hard to believe someone could write that with a straight face.
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Look at what this cowardly little asshat just sent:
I replied:
And he's cc'ing Lord Edam now too!Isaac Pussy Junior wrote:"...asshole..."
A pretty good self-description, and probably a genetic picture, as well. Like I said, when you figure it out, give me another e-mail. Until then, all spam goes to the junk mail bin, and remains unseen. Either continue, or get out of the way.
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I wrote:So if I use the word "asshole", then you conclude that I'm incapable of rational discussion, but if you rant that you'll physically attack me if the opportunity presents itself, that's perfectly reasonable?"...asshole..."
A pretty good self-description, and probably a genetic picture, as well. Like I said, when you figure it out, give me another e-mail. Until then, all spam goes to the junk mail bin, and remains unseen. Either continue, or get out of the way.
You really can't see how obvious your evasion is, can you? Pathetic. I sent you the PDF file of my rebuttal, as well as the link to the online version (and I just noticed that you've been persistently cc'ing others on this; I might as well do the same).
Grow up and either admit defeat or argue the point, coward. And for the umpteenth time, replying to your E-mails is not "spam". I have made this point several times now and you are ignoring it, just like you ignore everything else you can't deal with.
If you want to gain the inglorious honour of being the most cowardly twat on my Hate Mail page, go right on ahead and continue on your current path. If you don't, then answer the points I made.
PS. I'm attaching the PDF file AGAIN, just for you.
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I swear, this is the kind of guy you just want to walk up to and scream "just answer the fucking question." Of course he would take that as an insult, claim it was an ad hominem attack and it invalidates your entire argument. Gah. Better you than me Mike, sorry.
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/virus_x/Chardok wrote:What is this live journal I keep hearing so much about? How would I find Virus-X's?
Assuming thats him.
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The latest on the trials and tribulations of Virus XDarth Wong wrote:Look at what this cowardly little asshat just sent:
Life is hard for Virus X, I am sure you will all join me in a traditional SD.net expression of concern for Jr.Junior wrote: Thu, Nov. 20th, 2003, 01:11 pm
Hoo-boy.
Well, I was in a depression since 2 Saturdays ago, but Courtney helped me get out of it, last night. I took off from Luna after dropping her off, but just went to get Chinese food. The first sample from my father's got me sick, because it had residual oils from shrimp in it (I'm deathly allergic to idodine, and will go into anaphalactic shock, and die, if I eat 1-2 shrimp), and the second sample (from a shop in Berkley) didn't impress me.
Anyhow, I went back to Luna, afterwards, and had a better time.
Riccer livened it up by using defective CDs that skipped a lot (probably dropped a beer bottle on it), and I got to generally run around and make an ass of myself. Also discovered I have a warrant for my arrest in Plymouth for 'possession of a dangerous weapon'. That's what happens when you let someone leave a large combat knife in your truck.
Long story.link
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
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Right you are. I'm sure the Plymouth authorities will be gratified to read this...Stuart Mackey wrote:Life is hard for Virus X, I am sure you will all join me in a traditional SD.net expression of concern for Jr.Also discovered I have a warrant for my arrest in Plymouth for 'possession of a dangerous weapon'. That's what happens when you let someone leave a large combat knife in your truck.
Long story.link
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Indeed, its not often a suspect is so helpfull in their inquiries. But I am afraid that his habit of thretening people online will not bode so well for him in a court of law...Lord Poe wrote:Right you are. I'm sure the Plymouth authorities will be gratified to read this...Stuart Mackey wrote:Life is hard for Virus X, I am sure you will all join me in a traditional SD.net expression of concern for Jr.Also discovered I have a warrant for my arrest in Plymouth for 'possession of a dangerous weapon'. That's what happens when you let someone leave a large combat knife in your truck.
Long story.link
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
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Does anyone else like how his renewal of the whole "You're being mean to me so I should just ignore you" song and dance has conveniently sidestepped the fact that Mike basically demolished his entire argument and this guy has not even BOTHERED to counter? And this is after he cut and paste a bunch of stuff that probably came from all his message board discussions!
BTW what the hell is with this "cc'ing" other people? What the hell do they have to do with this? Is he trying to grandstand and show off like darkstar?
BTW what the hell is with this "cc'ing" other people? What the hell do they have to do with this? Is he trying to grandstand and show off like darkstar?
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I think anyone who reads the full exchange will smell the stench of cowardice and evasion emanating from his excuses for not answering.Connor MacLeod wrote:Does anyone else like how his renewal of the whole "You're being mean to me so I should just ignore you" song and dance has conveniently sidestepped the fact that Mike basically demolished his entire argument and this guy has not even BOTHERED to counter? And this is after he cut and paste a bunch of stuff that probably came from all his message board discussions!
He's obviously looking for some kind of validation. We know he's not getting it from women, we know he doesn't get it from sci-fi fans online, so where to go? Naturally, he tries to go to people who he thinks will be sympathetic. Darkstar undoubtedly will be; for him, this is not a game; it is a WAR. But I doubt Edam is stupid enough to fall for his bullshit.BTW what the hell is with this "cc'ing" other people? What the hell do they have to do with this? Is he trying to grandstand and show off like darkstar?
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I still want to know why this guy thinks its okay for HIM to scale things from onscreen evidence (particularily when he said in the same email that SoD was utter crap), yet if anyone else tries doing it (IE Curtis), they're idiots. I *HATE* people like that (and I hope you intend to call him on this if he ever does bother responding, because it IS blatantly hypocritical.)Darth Wong wrote: I think anyone who reads the full exchange will smell the stench of cowardice and evasion emanating from his excuses for not answering.
I thought Edam had gone around behind your back and making claims regarding you as well? We know this guy has been sniping at you from a distance for well over a year (I wonder why.)He's obviously looking for some kind of validation. We know he's not getting it from women, we know he doesn't get it from sci-fi fans online, so where to go? Naturally, he tries to go to people who he thinks will be sympathetic. Darkstar undoubtedly will be; for him, this is not a game; it is a WAR. But I doubt Edam is stupid enough to fall for his bullshit.
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There's so many things to criticize in his messages that one can easily forget to cover a few. It's a goldmine.Connor MacLeod wrote:I still want to know why this guy thinks its okay for HIM to scale things from onscreen evidence (particularily when he said in the same email that SoD was utter crap), yet if anyone else tries doing it (IE Curtis), they're idiots. I *HATE* people like that (and I hope you intend to call him on this if he ever does bother responding, because it IS blatantly hypocritical.)
He's probably still feeling the effects of my boot up his ass during our debate. But he knows better than to cling to a sinking ship, unlike Darkstar (who still clings doggedly to his moronic 30 foot wide photorps) or Junior.I thought Edam had gone around behind your back and making claims regarding you as well? We know this guy has been sniping at you from a distance for well over a year (I wonder why.)
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"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
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Oh, not to worry, he always does this, its because he is, bacically, a bully. Like all bullies, the moment you stand up to him he resorts to bluster then crumbles. The same thing happned when I was arguing with him..I roasted his 'argument' then had fun roasting his bullshit excuses, threats and evasions.Connor MacLeod wrote:Does anyone else like how his renewal of the whole "You're being mean to me so I should just ignore you" song and dance has conveniently sidestepped the fact that Mike basically demolished his entire argument and this guy has not even BOTHERED to counter? And this is after he cut and paste a bunch of stuff that probably came from all his message board discussions!
This is an old tactic called 'grabbing for a lifeline'. He thinks that if he can get others in on the act. not only can he cover for his inadiquecies, but also say to others "I led the charge against the mighty Wong and we defeated him..phear me" . Unfortunatly for him everyone, except RSA, is smart enough to see an unsustainable argument when they see one.BTW what the hell is with this "cc'ing" other people? What the hell do they have to do with this? Is he trying to grandstand and show off like darkstar?
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Allergic to iodine? I thought iodine does its damage by reacting with chemicals in the body...Junior wrote: Thu, Nov. 20th, 2003, 01:11 pm
(I'm deathly allergic to idodine, and will go into anaphalactic shock, and die, if I eat 1-2 shrimp)
Unless he meant Iodide, in which case he'd better not eat food with salt in, as that contains iodide...
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Given the sheer inanaity we've seen I'm quite sure this slight difference of name means nothing to junior here.Bill Door wrote:Allergic to iodine? I thought iodine does its damage by reacting with chemicals in the body...Junior wrote: Thu, Nov. 20th, 2003, 01:11 pm
(I'm deathly allergic to idodine, and will go into anaphalactic shock, and die, if I eat 1-2 shrimp)
Unless he meant Iodide, in which case he'd better not eat food with salt in, as that contains iodide...
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Y'know, Wong, most of the reason I still frequent Vs. debates is for the hilarity of stuff like this...
By the by, anybody notice yet another gross contradiction in VX's argument? He used this quote from Pegasus...
However, he also believes that ST photorp are capable of compensatillion gigatons (or however big his number needs to be to make up for his Hedwig-style endowment), which would mean that their shields should also be able to take at least ONE hit from these Supertorps.
So why didn't the E-D just ram straight through the asteroid walls, if the 'roid were so fragile?
Ah well, he's an idiot. Oh, and he still hasn't shown up at my house. Guess he was lying about his Cloak-N-Dagger buddyboy, eh?
By the by, anybody notice yet another gross contradiction in VX's argument? He used this quote from Pegasus...
... As an attempt to show why the E-D didn't just blast their way out of the asteroid."The asteroid's internal structure is highly unstable. Any attempt to cut through the rock could cause the entire chasm to collapse."
However, he also believes that ST photorp are capable of compensatillion gigatons (or however big his number needs to be to make up for his Hedwig-style endowment), which would mean that their shields should also be able to take at least ONE hit from these Supertorps.
So why didn't the E-D just ram straight through the asteroid walls, if the 'roid were so fragile?
Ah well, he's an idiot. Oh, and he still hasn't shown up at my house. Guess he was lying about his Cloak-N-Dagger buddyboy, eh?
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This actually has a plausible explanation for this part--Trek shields have shown to be consistently inferior in the deflection of physical impacts as compared to withstanding raditation.SPOOFE wrote:So why didn't the E-D just ram straight through the asteroid walls, if the 'roid were so fragile?
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Not a word. Either he intends to pull the Andrew Joshua Talon trick of taking weeks to reply, or he believes that his pitiful "I don't recognize your rebuttal because you only put it on the Web and then E-mailed it to me as a PDF rather than typing out the text in plain ASCII E-Mail format" excuse is actually a workable way to get out while saving face.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
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"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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Well he IS using AJT's tactic of running to other trekkies on the net for advice, so that obviously takes some time for them to email back and forth.Darth Wong wrote:Not a word. Either he intends to pull the Andrew Joshua Talon trick of taking weeks to reply, or he believes that his pitiful "I don't recognize your rebuttal because you only put it on the Web and then E-mailed it to me as a PDF rather than typing out the text in plain ASCII E-Mail format" excuse is actually a workable way to get out while saving face.
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I think it's pretty clear what he intends to do. That little bit about the sending your messages to the junk folder unread proves that he is trying to save face while running away to his momma like a little bitch. Pathetic.Darth Wong wrote:Not a word. Either he intends to pull the Andrew Joshua Talon trick of taking weeks to reply, or he believes that his pitiful "I don't recognize your rebuttal because you only put it on the Web and then E-mailed it to me as a PDF rather than typing out the text in plain ASCII E-Mail format" excuse is actually a workable way to get out while saving face.
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*Snort.* Watch 'em band together and try to lead a charge. I hope so, actually. That'd be fun to watch.Darth Servo wrote:Well he IS using AJT's tactic of running to other trekkies on the net for advice, so that obviously takes some time for them to email back and forth.Darth Wong wrote:Not a word. Either he intends to pull the Andrew Joshua Talon trick of taking weeks to reply, or he believes that his pitiful "I don't recognize your rebuttal because you only put it on the Web and then E-mailed it to me as a PDF rather than typing out the text in plain ASCII E-Mail format" excuse is actually a workable way to get out while saving face.