Astromech Driod vs. Cube

[The Yosemite Bear]

a single Astromech droid has found it's way onto a borg cube, being too small and too few numbers to be considered a threat or even enterrogated by the collective the R2 unit has had no trouble leeching power for it's suplies off the cube's central powersource. It then realizes that the borg are heading for it's owner's home. Can the little astromech stop the cube in time without alerting the borg?

[NecronLord]

Yes.

If R2 is typical, then he has demonstrated computing ability that exceeds that of Data in BoBW, and would, IMO, be smart enough to try sleep eventually. And an astromech would sacrifice itself without question to save its owner's planet. So it blows the cube up a la BoBW.

This makes the leap that it can jack in to the cube however.

[Robert Walper]

a single Astromech droid has found it's way onto a borg cube, being too small and too few numbers to be considered a threat or even enterrogated by the collective the R2 unit has had no trouble leeching power for it's suplies off the cube's central powersource. It then realizes that the borg are heading for it's owner's home. Can the little astromech stop the cube in time without alerting the borg?

Doubtful in my opinion. By what means would the unit be stopping the cube? Hacking? That is extremely difficult to judge. All we know basically in that area is Data's attempt to hack into the Borg cube during STTNG "Best of Both Worlds". He failed, having determined all critical Borg systems were protected. Only Picard's insight and actually telling Data what command to implement ended up making the cube self destruct. Even assuming the unit is a superior hacker than Data does not automatically imply the unit would succeed.

One could even argue the Borg fixed that glitch after that incident, since Starfleet didn't bother trying it again.

[Robert Walper]

Yes.

If R2 is typical, then he has demonstrated computing ability that exceeds that of Data in BoBW, and would, IMO, be smart enough to try sleep eventually. And an astromech would sacrifice itself without question to save its owner's planet. So it blows the cube up a la BoBW.

This makes the leap that it can jack in to the cube however.

Correct. Does the R2 unit have the ability to tap into subspace communication networks, and smart enough to target a system not protected as a critical system like all others were?

It's important to note Data failed with his hacking abilities(thus the R2 unit could be a better hacker than Data, and still potentially fail). Only Picard's insight and telling Data what to do saved the day.

And again, the Borg could have fixed that oversight once it was realized. As I said, Starfleet didn't bother trying it again.

[Ender]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

[Robert Walper]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

Well, Star Trek has repeatedly made it clear anything unusual attracts the Borg like flies to shit.

[Isolder74]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

Well, Star Trek has repeatedly made it clear anything unusual attracts the Borg like flies to shit.

Unless they mistake it for a trash can

[Robert Walper]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

Well, Star Trek has repeatedly made it clear anything unusual attracts the Borg like flies to shit.

Unless they mistake it for a trash can

And what trash would the Borg put in it? Pop cans? Wait, that would make it a recycling bin...

[Darth Yoshi]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

That wouldn't really matter, since it's doubtful

[Darth Yoshi]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

That wouldn't really matter, since it's doubtful

that they'll be able to assimilate.

Ignore the extra post, I fucked up.

[Drooling Iguana]

R2 has a built in holo-projector, so he could just project those images that the Enterprise crew were going to use to destroy the collective in "I, Borg" (the Hugh episode.)

[Patrick Degan]

One limitation certainly is that there would not be a standard interface jack compatable with the Astromech's probe to be found anywhere on board a Borg vessel.

[Darth Wong]

Is he one of those models which incorporates a transmitter? He could always call for help, thus setting into motion a sequence of events which would lead to the cube's destruction. With no transwarp conduits in the SW galaxy, the cube would presumably be using its relatively slow transwarp drive which would allow them to get quite close to a target world (close enough to communicate via subspace) while still leaving more than adequate lead time for interception.

[GUTB]

There is no evidence to suggest that R2D2 has a superior hacking capability than Data. Indeed, there is no evidence whatsoever that R2D2 is superior to Data in any meanigful comparison.

Could a droid that has a primary function of fixing a small space craft and aiding in navigation best or otherwise defeat a subspace AI network that expands across millions or even trillions of sentient nodes? Simple logic tells us not.

Now, a better question is: Was the original poster serious when he posed the question to begin with? Again, simple logic tells us that he probably was not.

[Darth Wong]

There is no evidence to suggest that R2D2 has a superior hacking capability than Data. Indeed, there is no evidence whatsoever that R2D2 is superior to Data in any meanigful comparison.

The facts that he can fly, fix spacecraft, weld things, hack into gigantic supercomputers to find classified information, and develop a human-like personality seem to have all escaped your feeble excuse for a mind.

Could a droid that has a primary function of fixing a small space craft and aiding in navigation best or otherwise defeat a subspace AI network that expands across millions or even trillions of sentient nodes? Simple logic tells us not.

Explain this "simple logic" then, since you have just listed two things that R2D2 can do that Data can't in your feeble attempt to prove he's inferior.

Now, a better question is: Was the original poster serious when he posed the question to begin with? Again, simple logic tells us that he probably was not.

You mean "simple-minded logic", which is the only kind of logic you seem to have available to you.

PS. As far as I can tell, you never bother to answer any rebuttal to any of your posts. You had better start.

[Drooling Iguana]

There is no evidence to suggest that R2D2 has a superior hacking capability than Data. Indeed, there is no evidence whatsoever that R2D2 is superior to Data in any meanigful comparison.

Could a droid that has a primary function of fixing a small space craft and aiding in navigation best or otherwise defeat a subspace AI network that expands across millions or even trillions of sentient nodes? Simple logic tells us not.

Now, a better question is: Was the original poster serious when he posed the question to begin with? Again, simple logic tells us that he probably was not.

If the logic is so simple, then why didn't you post it, instead of jumping to wild conclusions and then claiming that you arrived at them "logically"?

[Sea Skimmer]

The Borg would probably capture the R2 unit before it could find a way to begin hacking, it would probably need to build a suitable port even if the systems are compatible. While Borg might not see the driod as a threat, it is new and very different technology that would attract their attention fairly quickly.

[Patrick Degan]

Could a droid that has a primary function of fixing a small space craft and aiding in navigation best or otherwise defeat a subspace AI network that expands across millions or even trillions of sentient nodes? Simple logic tells us not.

Explain this "simple logic" then

From what I observe, basically the "logic" of a very simple mind. Stupidity often works in such a closed-loop manner.

[Darth Yoshi]

There is no evidence to suggest that R2D2 has a superior hacking capability than Data. Indeed, there is no evidence whatsoever that R2D2 is superior to Data in any meanigful comparison.

R2-D2 stored the entire Death Star blueprint in his memory, in addition to a holographic message from Princess Leia and his quirky personality traits and regular programming. I sincerely doubt that Data can hold the blueprints of a several hundred click wide battlestation in his memory without losing some or even all of what he already has stored. Therefore, R2-D2 has superior data storage capabilities. Care to try again?

[Ender]

There is no evidence to suggest that R2D2 has a superior hacking capability than Data. Indeed, there is no evidence whatsoever that R2D2 is superior to Data in any meanigful comparison.

As I have repeated ad nauseum, R2D2 has a low end processing capability of 1E27 computations a second based off his ability to chart a hyperspace route. Data has nothing near that capability. On top of that there is R2's memory, which held the entire Death Star plans, compare that with Data's space. Data is pathetic.

Could a droid that has a primary function of fixing a small space craft and aiding in navigation best or otherwise defeat a subspace AI network that expands across millions or even trillions of sentient nodes? Simple logic tells us not.

Explain why when sais droid is faster and has more experience then anything we've ever seen in trek.

Now, a better question is: Was the original poster serious when he posed the question to begin with? Again, simple logic tells us that he probably was not.

Still waiting for you to respond with proof to any of your claims bucko.

[Shogoki]

Hey, what do you think the Borg would do with the R2 unit if it was captured?

It has some pretty exotic hardware but it also has the most advanced AI the borg has ever seen, so do they cut it into little pieces or do they try to seduce it, like they did with Data (since R2's are suppoused to be very hard to hack, i guess that puts it above the Borg's capabilities, they couldn't even do Data, after all)?

[FTeik]

Imagines R2-D2 ass-raping the Borg Queen ...

Question is, would an ordinary astromech be as clever and determinated as R2-D2 in dealing with the Borg?

[The Yosemite Bear]

And I didn't even bring up what happened in Dark Empire......

[Admiral_K]

R2-D2 stored the entire Death Star blueprint in his memory, in addition to a holographic message from Princess Leia and his quirky personality traits and regular programming. I sincerely doubt that Data can hold the blueprints of a several hundred click wide battlestation in his memory without losing some or even all of what he already has stored. Therefore, R2-D2 has superior data storage capabilities. Care to try again?

Hell, the entire battlestation plans were stored on the starwars equivilant of a ZIP disk. If you figure what your average storage media today has in comparsion to a PC harddrive, you could figure R2 should be able to store the plans of several deathstar like stations rather easily.

[Slartibartfast]

The R2 unit is extremely advanced technology (if only for its power cells, we have never seen anything in trek from any race that can match the SW energy cell power). My money is on the borg drones are making grabs t assimilating it.

That wouldn't really matter, since it's doubtful

that they'll be able to assimilate.

Ignore the extra post, I fucked up.

His point was that he wouldn't simply be ignored because it's not a threat. It would draw much attention and greed to it just because it's hi-tech.