ST:X Revelations

[Doomriser]

In case Wong doesn't want to see the crapfest that will be ST:X, I have already gone over the bootleg script. If the script is indeed accurate, then I have a number of interesting revelations from the movie.

I've gone over the bootlegged script, which is IMHO consistent with
the trailers of mid-July 2002 and all avaliable information. I don't have any confirmation that it is the actual script, though all evidence seems to confirm that it is the actual script. Hopefully, this piece of trash is not the actual script and is a trick by Paramount, but this heap of garbage seems to fit the facts and every single piece of information revealed about ST:X.
Criticism aside, here are the more interesting technical revelations.

Wait for the movie, you say? If this is accurate, it should save a lot of
wasted time and money watching and rewatching the movie over and over for technical details. Just watch it once, check the PDD, and see what I missed/has been changed. In addition, the points here should give potential viewers things to look for while watching the movie.

Major Spoilers Warning
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General Technology

-The Enterprise can pick up a positronic signature similar to that from
Data's brain at a distance beyond a star system
-A tricorder can pick up the same signature from 2 km away
-An ion storm will interfere with the E-E's transporters
-The Bassen Rift (an EM distortion) interferes with both sensors and
long-range communications on the E-E. In fact, the E-E requires a
communications uplink with Starfleet in order to navigate through it, and
this uplink is eventually lost!
-New technology: the one-person, one-use, one-way Emergency Transport Unit
(ETU)
-The Argo's dune buggy is called a "jeep" in the script's description
-plasma rifles and better-designed jeeps (from a pre-warp culture) are
considered to be "crude" and "primitive" by the scriptwriters

Replicators

-The Romulans cannot replicate Picard's blood
-The new replicators on the E-E could not replicate Earl Grey Tea, so Picard had the old ones put back in

Romulan stuff

-cloaks generally leave tachyon emmissions and residual antiprotons (the
Scimitar doesn't)
-the Romulans have a new starfighter-sized craft, the Scorpion

Scimitar
-can fire while cloaked
-Is more than twice the size of the E-E
-Outguns the E-E + 2 Warbirds
-Has vastly greater shielding
-Is a giant radiation bomb

Combat
-The E-E at one point actually uses the 3rd dimension
-Auto Destruct is disabled by battle damage
-Picard pours all avaliable power into the impulse engines and rams the
warbird, both are heavily damaged but survive
-The bridge is damaged, SIF doesn't kick in until a bridge officer is sucked
out into space
-This is only according to the script, but it seems that only photon
torpedoes are used by the E-E. Perhaps they used the term in a general
sense.

Triwhatever radiation
-destroys organic life at the subatomic level (kinda like all the millions
of Itchys in the Disney-mocking cartoon when they go inside Scratchy and
hack him to bits from the inside, I bet)
-similar to the genesis effect on how it envelops planets

Political
-without any doubt, the destruction of Earth would severely cripple the
Federation (there are numerous quotes to this effect)
-the Federation has not even charted an inhabited world that is in
Federation space in a strategically vital spot close to the Romulan Neutral
Zone
-Romulan destabilization would be bad news for the entire quadrant
-Starfleet Intelligence is unable to provide even an image of an important
and highly-successful Romulan/Reman military commander

I have a much larger version, with quotes and everything, but it is
enormous. I will only post it on request.
It can, however, be found at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&l ... ersurf.net

[HemlockGrey]

Those are good observations, but what is more important is the conclusion we can draw.

-The Romulans cannot replicate Picard's blood
-The new replicators on the E-E could not replicate Earl Grey Tea, so Picard had the old ones put back in

Proof that replicators are not the be-all end-all of logistics; further, it is proof of the frivolous nature of Starfleet. It is rather difficult to believe that they would allow a captain of a warship to replace newer, presumably more efficient technology with older models simply because he wants a certain type of tea.

-cloaks generally leave tachyon emmissions and residual antiprotons (the Scimitar doesn't)

It is likely that this technology is incredibly expensive, large, and difficult to produce, since none of the other Romulan warships have been retrofitted with it, and the Valdores do not mount it either.

Scimitar
-can fire while cloaked
-Is more than twice the size of the E-E
-Outguns the E-E + 2 Warbirds
-Has vastly greater shielding
-Is a giant radiation bomb

This is likely the last hope of the Romulans to deal a crushing blow to Starfleet; the cost was likely incredibly high, since the Star Empire is putting this entire mission on the shoulders of one ship. It's also a testimony to the low fleet numbers; The Scimitar is not to have any escorts or support craft on this supposedly vital mission; it has had so many resources dumped into it probably because the Romulans cannot spare any escort ships.

-Auto Destruct is disabled by battle damage

Star Trek civilizations don't use redundant systems. Stupid of them.

-Picard pours all avaliable power into the impulse engines and rams the warbird, both are heavily damaged but survive?

The Enterprise cannot have been moving very fast if two battle-damaged ships can ram into each other and survive.

-The bridge is damaged, SIF doesn't kick in until a bridge officer is sucked out into space

This is probably because there is only one SIF generator thing, and the more it's taxed, the slower it's reaction time is. No redundant systems. Bah.

-This is only according to the script, but it seems that only photon
torpedoes are used by the E-E. Perhaps they used the term in a general
sense.

Or maybe Starfleet could not afford to equip all of it's ships with top-of-the-line weaponry in peacetime. This could be due to a stingy budget, or a demanding peacenik population.

-without any doubt, the destruction of Earth would severely cripple the Federation (there are numerous quotes to this effect)

The Federation government is extremely centralized. Blow Earth and the gov't falls apart.

-the Federation has not even charted an inhabited world that is in
Federation space in a strategically vital spot close to the Romulan Neutral
Zone

Testimony to their pathetically small fleet and slow FTL drive.

-Starfleet Intelligence is unable to provide even an image of an important and highly-successful Romulan/Reman military commander

Perhaps Starfleet does not dedicate much of it's budget to Intelligence, because it's sneaky and espinagy and the Feds do not want to offend the population?

Of course, why a dedicated intelligence service would be part of Starfleet instead of being it's own institution is beyond me. It seems that Starfleet controls the Federation in a way similiar to how the I.F. controlled the Earth in Ender's Game.

[Oberleutnant]

This is likely the last hope of the Romulans to deal a crushing blow to Starfleet; the cost was likely incredibly high, since the Star Empire is putting this entire mission on the shoulders of one ship. It's also a testimony to the low fleet numbers; The Scimitar is not to have any escorts or support craft on this supposedly vital mission; it has had so many resources dumped into it probably because the Romulans cannot spare any escort ships.

Sorry, but the reasons for the lack of support vessels aren't these.

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Scimitar's mission is not sanctioned by the Romulan government or their military. It is a rogue vessel in the hands of a group of aliens called Remans, and at one point in the movie it will be attacked by the Romulans themselves.

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end of spoiler space

[Ender]

We're going sailing on the Opal Sea. We've booked an old-fashioned solar
catamaran. Just us and the sun and the waves.
-solar catamaran
Could be an expression, comparing the ship to a space going catamaran instead of naming an actual type of ship

ADMIRAL KATHRYN JANEWAY
-oh dear God no

appears on Picard's monitor. Janeway is the
former captain of Voyager. Her new rank fits her well, she has lost none of
her dry humor and down-to-earth charm which made her a household name and
beloved cult figure
-see above comment
Heh


Since the Remans are more comfortable in the darkness, most of the light
comes from the three steadily pulsing warp core relays which dramatically
soar up through the floor of the bridge.
-description of interior
You missed something important there, it says 3 warp cores. THe Romulans have abandoned Quantum Singularity generators in favor of warp cores. This appears to not be limited to just the Reman designed Scimitar, but the new warbirds as well, explaining their lack of the open space associated with QS reactors in Trek.


That's what I don't get -- it's mostly basic stellar cartography: star
charts; communications protocols; some uplinks from colony tracking
stations. It's not even restricted material.

-sounds like the Empire
Odd that the Romulans lack basic star charts, which they should have gotten during the DW or obtained via simple telescopes.

It has the ability to consume organic material at the subatomic level. I
can't overestimate the danger of Thalaron radiation, Jean Luc. A microscopic
amount could kill every living thing on this ship in a matter of seconds.

-description of the wacky particle of the week/month/whatever
How can only a few curies kill everyone onboard the ship? Don't they have a vaccine against radiation?

Yes. The bait you couldn't refuse. I learned there might be an
existing prototype from a Cardassian historian, then went to a great
deal of trouble to find it and scatter it about on Kolarus III. I knew
it would pique your curiosity and conveniently make the Enterprise the
closest ship to Romulus when I contacted Starfleet.
The romulans have a way aroung the tachyeon net SF set up to detect crossing of the NZ

High above them, at the very top of the chamber, is a gigantic version
of the spider-weapon we saw kill all the Romulan Senators before. It
is breathtaking.
Since we only saw the emitter in the senate, and we see the same thing inside the ship, doesn't this mean that the inside of thte ship would be bathed in the same radiation when it fires? This implies that the radiation is in fact survivable, contrary to Dr. Crushers claim earlier

Data rotates his left hand and then slides it forward, exposing a
hidden compartment in his wrist. He removes a small, silver disc.
This is a cool new piece of Federation technology called an ETU.
(Emergency Transport Unit.)
Desipte your jab, this tech makes a fair bit of sense. Apparently you would use it as a life preserver of sorts and beam yourself dto a planet, shuttle, or escape pod if your ship was going down.

A computer display illustrates Geordi's words about the power of
Shinzon's weapon. We see a chilling graphic of the Biogenic Pulse beam
spreading around a ship, then a whole planet.
It will be interesting to see this graphic. Is it a ship being shot at, or does the radiation encompass the scimitar, then the planet? Also, how to they have this information? They didn't tap into the Scimitar's computer, is it based off their own weapons testing, which would be contrary to SF's ideals? Would S31 have a similar weapon if the latter is the case?

RlKER

Oh boy.
THAT'S ARCHER'S LINE!

He could pass within 10 meters of every ship in Starfleet and they'd
never know.
What about the radiation from the Impulse engines, would SF not detect that even though they did it in Broken Bow? Do cloaks do something the the plasma in impulse engines so that it is dispured and nondetectable?

I'm counting on it ...We've been ordered to head to sector 3274.
Starfleet is diverting the fleet to meet us there.
Sector of the Federation or sector of the galaxy? (Presumably the former, but the latter is a posibility) If it is the former, how many planets are in a sector? This could give us yet another Federation size number to rationalize and deal with.

We see a montage of the Enterprise preparing for battle.

Crew members assume battle stations. Weapons locker ring open and
Security Officers hand out sidearms and phaser rifles.

Geordi and his Engineers establish emergency force field around the
warp core..

Riker and Worf brief officers on tactical plans...
Hopefully we'll see more then just that

Data is at work in Astrometry. Cartographic projections of star
systems ebb and flow on a large screen before him. Picard enters .

PlCARD
Show me our current position.

The images before them quickly change to show another sector and a
blip representing the Enterprise.

PICARD
How long until we reach the fleet?

DATA
At our current velocity we will arrive at sector 3274 in approximately
40 minutes.

The images before them change to show sector 3274. We see blips
denoting Starfleet ships moving into position.

-when you watch the movie, count the ships

Picard gazes at the projection of stars before them for a moment.

DATA
(working controls)

Then the projections before them sputter with static for a moment.
Flickering.

We are passing through the Bassen Rift. The projections will return
when we have cleared it.

PICARD
It's interfering with our uplink from Starfleet cartography?

DATA
Yes, sir. The Rift effects all long-range communications--
So the Enterprise does not havea copy of the starchart onboard in it's main computer. Why? Also, this means that B-9 hacked into the main starfleet computer through the Enterprise.

PICARD

(urgent, to comm) Commander Riker, evasive maneuvers!

Too late.

The ship QUAKES --a photon torpedo blast -- the Enterprise is under
attack!

EXT. THE RIFT SPACE

Disruptor beams appear from nowhere --streaking through space --
slamming into the Enterprise's warp drive. The Enterprise recoils,
dangerously dropping out of warp in a furious lurch.
Evidence of fighting at warp in TNG era, unless visuals contradict it. Also, this shows that the Schimitar is faster then the E-E as it beat them to the rift in order to lie in wait.

INT. ENTERPRISE BRIDGE FOLLOWING
Picard strides to his command chair as two Romulan Warbirds appear on
the viewscreen. Deanna is now on the bridge.
RIKER

Believe it or not, I think the cavalry has arrived.
Shows that the Warbirds are also faster then the E-E, as they were ordered to depart after it did, and would have had to make preperations to get underway before they actually did, yet managed to get there within minutes of it.

PICARD
Computer. Auto-destruct sequence Omega. Zero time delay. Recognize
voice pattern Jean Luc Picard. Authorization Alpha Alpha Three Zero
Five--

COMPUTER (V. O.)
Auto-destruct is off-line.
Shouldn't a simple killing of power release the AM and blow up the ship? Battle damage would not prevent you from flipping the circut breaker. Another possibility is that we see evidence of competent engineering here, and the removal of the problem with AM just sitting there in the reactor.

It is interesting to note that we don't see Endgame tech here even though it is stated that the E-E has been in for some minor refit work (the new replicators, the Ablative armor generators should take even less effort then that based on endgame) and that as the premier ship of the fleet it would have been first in line for the best weapons and defenses.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Ender, watch the trailer and then compare notes to the script. I've heard that the two have inconsistencys.

[Ender]

Ender, watch the trailer and then compare notes to the script. I've heard that the two have inconsistencys.

I have. The only thing I've ever heard mentioned is that someone was claiming that the nameless ensign that goes out the hole was Riker, which it isn't as he is busy fighting, as we also see in the trailer. Tell me if there are any other inconsistencies you've heard of so I can check it out.

[Doomriser]

Ender: Thanks, you picked up on some things that everyone including myself missed, especially the Romulan warp cores - warp cores struck me as ordinary when in fact Warbirds do use a quantum singularity. Also, while we assumed that the new Romulan warbirds were built for speed, you've provided some evidence.

Also: I know of no major inconsistences. IIRC the script does NOT have Riker flying out the window - he lives through the whole movie. The script has the dune buggy, the scorpion fighter, the scimitar, the new warbirds, Shinzon, etc... all which we now know are canon. Where are the so-called inconsistencies?

[Master of Ossus]

That comment that Picard makes about Brave New Worlds bothered me. Surely this represents the Federation's ideals, and clearly the Federation is a much less moral place than we could have imagined previously.

[Patrick Degan]

The ship QUAKES --a photon torpedo blast -- the Enterprise is under
attack!

EXT. THE RIFT SPACE

Disruptor beams appear from nowhere --streaking through space --
slamming into the Enterprise's warp drive. The Enterprise recoils,
dangerously dropping out of warp in a furious lurch.

An invisible ship. The Enterprise battles an invisible ship. This is a very low grade B-movie with a multimillion dollar budget. It's Star Trek X: Invisible Invaders! The only thing that would complete the disaster would be to CGI-cast John Agar in command of the Enterprise and John Carradine as Shinzon.

[Parallax]

It seems to me that the writers decided to blow the dust off the old movies to see which ones didn't suck quite as much as the others.
And they came up with 'Wrath of Khan' and 'Undiscovered Country' ... so now we have someone from the past looking for revenge against Picard(*) (even though the two of them have never met and Picard really doesn't have a clue his evil clone (ugh) even exists) in a ship which has the major advantage of being invisible and thus basically unhittable(**).

But then, judging by all available indications, this movie is going to end up somewhere below ST5 ...

* - WoK, obviously.
** - Undiscovered Country, obviously.

[NecronLord]

The ship QUAKES --a photon torpedo blast -- the Enterprise is under
attack!

EXT. THE RIFT SPACE

Disruptor beams appear from nowhere --streaking through space --
slamming into the Enterprise's warp drive. The Enterprise recoils,
dangerously dropping out of warp in a furious lurch.

An invisible ship. The Enterprise battles an invisible ship. This is a very low grade B-movie with a multimillion dollar budget. It's Star Trek X: Invisible Invaders! The only thing that would complete the disaster would be to CGI-cast John Agar in command of the Enterprise and John Carradine as Shinzon.

They did it in ST:VI


in addition

He could pass within 10 meters of every ship in Starfleet and they'd
never know. What about the radiation from the Impulse engines, would SF not detect that even though they did it in Broken Bow? Do cloaks do something the the plasma in impulse engines so that it is dispured and nondetectable?

They could use a feild envelope to contian that exahuse scrub it and run it back through the engeines. While this does increase the power consumption several fold it has the advantage of removing the weakness in ST:VI. Think outside the box. Normally the romulans are smarter than SF remember. until someone let B&B at them in this film.

REMANS

WTF? Where did these come from? Is this just B&B's effort to Nazify the Romulans?

[Kamakazie Sith]

Ender: Thanks, you picked up on some things that everyone including myself missed, especially the Romulan warp cores - warp cores struck me as ordinary when in fact Warbirds do use a quantum singularity. Also, while we assumed that the new Romulan warbirds were built for speed, you've provided some evidence.

Also: I know of no major inconsistences. IIRC the script does NOT have Riker flying out the window - he lives through the whole movie. The script has the dune buggy, the scorpion fighter, the scimitar, the new warbirds, Shinzon, etc... all which we now know are canon. Where are the so-called inconsistencies?

Can you cite the part in the script that mentions the new warbirds?

[Oberleutnant]

REMANS

WTF? Where did these come from? Is this just B&B's effort to Nazify the Romulans?

FFS, don't bash B&B for every lousy thing in Trek. Blame John Logan who wrote the script and made the story, B&B only tweaked it -- probably even improving it! The script that was leaked was not the one used in filming. To put it bluntly, that early draft was piece of crap.

[Kamakazie Sith]

REMANS

WTF? Where did these come from? Is this just B&B's effort to Nazify the Romulans?

FFS, don't bash B&B for every lousy thing in Trek. Blame John Logan who wrote the script and made the story, B&B only tweaked it -- probably even improving it! The script that was leaked was not the one used in filming. To put it bluntly, that early draft was piece of crap.

Improved it?

[Isolder74]

REMANS

WTF? Where did these come from? Is this just B&B's effort to Nazify the Romulans?

In the original background of the Romulons they had two homeworlds(why there are two planets in the falcon thing's talons) Romulus and Remus. Apparentally this will be the first "cannon" reference to the place.

[Tsyroc]

REMANS

WTF? Where did these come from? Is this just B&B's effort to Nazify the Romulans?

In the original background of the Romulons they had two homeworlds(why there are two planets in the falcon thing's talons) Romulus and Remus. Apparentally this will be the first "cannon" reference to the place.

Perhaps well get a canon quote as to why the Romulan Empire's two
main worlds sound suspiciously like they were named after the mythical
founders of Rome. I supose they just sound that way when translated into
English? Just like the planet Vulcan?

[Master of Ossus]

Why are the Romulans...er, Remans, using photon torpedoes, now instead of their plasma torpedoes. And why isn't the Enterprise E using quantum torpedoes?

[Isolder74]

Why are the Romulans...er, Remans, using photon torpedoes, now instead of their plasma torpedoes. And why isn't the Enterprise E using quantum torpedoes?

maybe Paramount budget cuts don't allow the "fancy" FX for these weapons

[NecronLord]

REMANS

WTF? Where did these come from? Is this just B&B's effort to Nazify the Romulans?

In the original background of the Romulons they had two homeworlds(why there are two planets in the falcon thing's talons) Romulus and Remus. Apparentally this will be the first "cannon" reference to the place.

I am aware of this. However they were also the same species The annoying Nazification effect of the suppressed race is a new addition, just to try and turn the romulans more black and white style "evil." It is a stupid idea which insults the intelligence of the audience and will most likely wreck the Romulans as the only halfway decent [read worth watching] AQ power. It doesn't matter wether Dumb and Dumber did not think it up, they didn't just change it to a romulan faction. That would
a) keep the plot intact
b) keep the romulans credible
c) not insult the intelligence of the audience

[Master of Ossus]

Part of what was fun about the Romulans was that they seemed pretty intelligent during TNG. They made some reasonable plots in an attempt to draw Federation ships into the Neutral Zone, although their scheme to invade Vulcan was terrible. Now they just seem like they're turning into vampires with nothing between the ears.

[NecronLord]

Yes, More on the symbol

It looks a lot like it is meant to convey the empire's unity, not a 'race' of slaves on one planet.

Hell they could even keep the demonic looking guys, just have the founders of the faction wounded while developing the unobtaniom radiation weapon. I know that's dodgy, but it is at least as credible as the Klingons head bulge development.

[Oberleutnant]

Improved it?

Even a trained Baboom (or Braga alone) could've written a better script than what Logan did! Remans are the most horrible aliens ever created to Trek who totally messed up the Romulans, the only Trek race I like.

[Oberleutnant]

baboon...

I agree with NecronLord about the symbolism of the Romulan insignia.

[Oberleutnant]

I stumbled across a Trek message board, and found out this nice little pic of our beloved Captain (now Admiral) Janeway in Nemesis.



This cameo role will certainly boost the expectations for Nemesis, don't ya think?

[TheDarkling]

The horror that picture conveys goes beyond anything the script could possibly instill.